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[mattwill]

In keeping with the Mods desire to keep the Blog thread size manageable, as we approach the Wednesday kickoff of the Regular Season, here's a thread that leaves the questions of Offseason behind and embraces the questions of the Regular Season ahead.

Are you ready for some football !!!!

[aptosbird]

No Foles...Nope...the Eagles are going to run McCoy and use the screens, draws and shorting passing game until Vick and the offense can gel...

[Mike P]

Wow haha.

Eliot Shorr-Parks ‏@EliotShorrParks
#Eagles are only 6.5 point favorites over the Browns. That's not a lot of points for a team that is supposed to be a Super Bowl contender

[mattwill]

E v 2.0, on 03 September 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

Hey Ghor,

Do you agree with Matt that a Lewis trade is likely?

ghor50, on 03 September 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

No. I actually don't agree at all.

Dion Lewis is a perfect fit at the backup RB for what Andy Reid likes to use. He's elusive in space, he's dynamic and we can use him in a multitude of different ways. And he can be productive with limited carries.

Why would we trade a guy like that?

ghor, let me answer your question with a question.  On Sunday if all four RBs are on the squad, which three of the four do you activate?

[schuy7]

Probably because opening day is always unpredictable (re: point spread)

[mattwill]

ghor50, on 03 September 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

Sure. That's an easy one, Matt. If I'm the Eagles, I'd with these 3 guys:

LeSean McCoy
Dion Lewis
Bryce Brown

I disagree, with Polk among the actives you have a pounder RB available for pounding situations.  Lewis would only be active as injury insurance for a Shady injury.  Brown will get touches before Lewis will if ther is no Shady injury.

JMHO

E v 2.0, on 03 September 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

I agree completely.

ghor50, on 03 September 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

Cool. We've finally got a backup running back who can do what Andy Reid wants his backup to do.

I find the possibility of a trade very unlikely, IMO.

And his name is Brown.  

[Kolbfan4]

mattwill, on 03 September 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

ghor, let me answer your question with a question.  On Sunday if all four RBs are on the squad, which three of the four do you activate?

Brown McCoy and Polk!

I wouldn't activate Lewis because he is exactly like McCoy...While Brown and Polk can bring different things to the table...

But if McCoy were to get hurt, Lewis would be the starter.

[E v 2.0]

Picking up on the RBs...

I'd be very happy with a McCoy, Lewis, Brown backfield on game day.

I'm not sure how many touches anyone outside of McCoy/Lewis would get because of the huge gap in pass protection experience in this offense regardless.

[aptosbird]

I am hoping to be in Reno next Sunday for opening day, but betting on games on the first weekend is a losing proposition, especially with crazy point spreads... I just finished my Yahoo picks...there are some hard games to call especially in the 9-4 confidence range

[Connecticut Eagle]

Mike P, on 03 September 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

Wow haha.

Eliot Shorr-Parks ‏@EliotShorrParks
#Eagles are only 6.5 point favorites over the Browns. That's not a lot of points for a team that is supposed to be a Super Bowl contender

We were 8-8 last year.  It's the latest objective measure of how good we really are.  If we blow out the Browns we'll be 7 point favorites against the Ravens.

[aptosbird]

Just like Curry....Polk will be  a beast in November and December...fresh horses at midseason sounds good to me...

[Connecticut Eagle]

mattwill, on 03 September 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

ghor, let me answer your question with a question.  On Sunday if all four RBs are on the squad, which three of the four do you activate?

McCoy, Lewis and Brown.  Should something happen to Shady, at least Lewis has touched the ball when it counts.

[RealCrippler]

Chris Polk is better on ST than Bryce Brown, a better pass-blocker and more likely to pick up 3rd and 1. Bryce only gets carries if Shady/Lewis go down. Activate the best "compliment" to the big 2.

[mattwill]

E v 2.0, on 03 September 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

Picking up on the RBs...

I'd be very happy with a McCoy, Lewis, Brown backfield on game day.

I'm not sure how many touches anyone outside of McCoy/Lewis would get because of the huge gap in pass protection experience in this offense regardless.

Good point.

[TM8492]

Super Bowl time.

[mattwill]

aptosbird, on 03 September 2012 - 11:17 AM, said:

I am hoping to be in Reno next Sunday for opening day, but betting on games on the first weekend is a losing proposition, especially with crazy point spreads... I just finished my Yahoo picks...there are some hard games to call especially in the 9-4 confidence range

We should get together some time.  I've never bet in real life, but cowboys-forum.com has a vBookie application on their website and I've parlayed an $80,000 virtual money initial stake into $2.5 million over the past 12 months using a moneyline system of bets.

[E v 2.0]

aptosbird, on 03 September 2012 - 11:17 AM, said:

I just finished my Yahoo picks...there are some hard games to call especially in the 9-4 confidence range

Yeah, the first week is always especially brutal.

[austinfan]

Polk makes more sense before the bye week, you don't care if he wears down, but you want Brown to get more practice reps before trusting him in a game, especially when it comes to pass blocking.

Lewis might be traded next year if Brown develops, but more likely they'll keep all three and let Polk move on.
Lewis and Brown have complementary skill sets.

[schuy7]

RealCrippler, on 03 September 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

Chris Polk is better on ST than Bryce Brown, a better pass-blocker and more likely to pick up 3rd and 1. Bryce only gets carries if Shady/Lewis go down. Activate the best "compliment" to the big 2.

I have no idea where you get this impression. Brown was one of the best ST performers in the pre-season. Polk was nearly invisible on ST.

[ghor50]

mattwill, on 03 September 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

I disagree, with Polk among the actives you have a pounder RB available for pounding situations.  Lewis would only be active as injury insurance for a Shady injury.  Brown will get touches before Lewis will if ther is no Shady injury.

JMHO



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E v 2.0, on 03 September 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

Picking up on the RBs...

I'd be very happy with a McCoy, Lewis, Brown backfield on game day.

I'm not sure how many touches anyone outside of McCoy/Lewis would get because of the huge gap in pass protection experience in this offense regardless.

Connecticut Eagle, on 03 September 2012 - 11:19 AM, said:

McCoy, Lewis and Brown.  Should something happen to Shady, at least Lewis has touched the ball when it counts.

The Eagles have proven that they don't use a "pounder type RB." In the mid to late 2000s, we clamored for it in the Blog; but it never came to fruition.

The other thing is that Chris Polk is the type of RB (along with many other pounder type of RBs) who need carries to get into the flow of a game. You can't just put them in cold on 3rd and short and expect for them to pick up the yardage. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.

I really believe that Andy Reid will get Lewis on the field this year. Some may disagree with me, but I think that this is the year we finally use our backup RB.

My beliefs are that if we don't use our backup RB now, then we'll never do it.

So I guess this is a defining year for the backup RB position.

[aptosbird]

mattwill, on 03 September 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:

We should get together some time.  I've never bet in real life, but cowboys-forum.com has a vBookie application on their website and I've parlayed an $80,000 virtual money initial stake into $2.5 million over the past 12 months using a moneyline system of bets.

yup..I will pick up a couple of authentic cheesesteaks on the way..a couple of places in the bay area fly out the stuff every morning...

[RealCrippler]

schuy7, on 03 September 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

I have no idea where you get this impression. Brown was one of the best ST performers in the pre-season. Polk was nearly invisible on ST.

Polk can be used as an "up-man" in KR and is a blocker on PR. It's not return ability.

[Mike P]

Pro Football Focus ‏@PFF
Lot of people saying DVD missed too many tackles. He missed 3 last year. Shawntae Spencer missed 14 in 2010, his last year starting

[critic]

Most inactives will be decided by injury-anderson, cooper, Matthews are out; Chaney and lewis are questionable;  they will keep menkin and bell inactive, so it's likely that both brown and polk will be active.

[HazletonEagle]

Who is this former Miami Dolphin that we added to our practice squad?
Its a story on the main page, but when you click it theres no mention of anyone since the Menkin signing.

Oh nevermind. Thats where Cunningham is from.

So we still have 1 open spot. I thought the story was new this morning.

Edited by HazletonEagle, 03 September 2012 - 11:46 AM.

[thebeastfromtheeast]

DHB with the catch of the pre season on NFL AM

look out for the bust this year

[SNOORDA]

Harbor had a nice preseason. But that was w/ foles at qb. Do you see him being a factor at all this season?

What about maclin? Seems to me like this is the year we see his max potential.

[HazletonEagle]

SNOORDA, on 03 September 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

Harbor had a nice preseason. But that was w/ foles at qb. Do you see him being a factor at all this season?

What about maclin? Seems to me like this is the year we see his max potential.

I think Maclin is a good bet to have a breakout year.
2 years ago, he seemed to be Vick's go to guy. Especially in the red zone.
Last year Vick regressed, and Maclin was coming back from mystery illness. I think this year could be big.

[RealCrippler]

thebeastfromtheeast, on 03 September 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

DHB with the catch of the pre season on NFL AM

look out for the bust this year

He also had the worst drop of the pre-season. :)

[mattwill]

ghor50, on 03 September 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

The Eagles have proven that they don't use a "pounder type RB." In the mid to late 2000s, we clamored for it in the Blog; but it never came to fruition.

The other thing is that Chris Polk is the type of RB (along with many other pounder type of RBs) who need carries to get into the flow of a game. You can't just put them in cold on 3rd and short and expect for them to pick up the yardage. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.

I really believe that Andy Reid will get Lewis on the field this year. Some may disagree with me, but I think that this is the year we finally use our backup RB.

My beliefs are that if we don't use our backup RB now, then we'll never do it.

So I guess this is a defining year for the backup RB position.

The last pounder back we had was named Staley.  Was he used?