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Our DL vs Giants DL?

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Guys is it me or people are too quick to give te leagues best DL to the giants?? People say we are deeper but not on the giants level and I don't see why.

When Tuck and Osi show up sometimes. OL hate playing us because we come in waves. There can be no relaxing against our DL. Washburn preaches all out effort every snap. It works because guys snaps are limited and they take advantage of all snaps.

Thoughts??

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My thoughts

*ahem*

F the Giants!

I like our DL better, as you said, we have an advantage because we can keep the fire coming every down because of our depth.

Plus, it's a team from NY; they get top news pretty much automatically at all times or else the planet will explode.

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thoughts are the giants dline almost single handedly won them the superbowl 5 years ago and they've been dominating ever since. I know our d-line is great but until they win a ring w that pass rush, the edge goes to ny.

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Eags might have the better depth but the Giants are better at the top.

JPP>Cole

Tuck> Babin

Osi> whomever

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Ask this same question a little later into the season when people actually know enough to answer.

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The giants DL played a huge role in carrying and winning the Superbowl. Until the Eagles old come close to doing the same, ill continue to rank the giants DL the best. Where did the eagles DL get the Eagles last year

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The giants DL played a huge role in carrying and winning the Superbowl. Until the Eagles old come close to doing the same, ill continue to rank the giants DL the best. Where did the eagles DL get the Eagles last year

You can oversimplify everything like that if you really want, and wow the Giants have the greatest team and the best at every position, because they won the superbowl. But the reality is they barely squeaked into the playoffs and their d-line beyond JPP isn't as good as it was 5 years ago. I'd take the Eagles line.

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Eags might have the better depth but the Giants are better at the top.

JPP>Cole

Tuck> Babin

Osi> whomever

Easy there... Way too early to come to that conclusion.

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Eags might have the better depth but the Giants are better at the top.

JPP>Cole

Tuck> Babin

Osi> whomever

I love all the fans that take what a player did for 1 year and assume that is what the player is going to be. Haven't we all seen endless players look like the next great HOF player only to come down to earth the next year never to return to that elite form ???

Listen there is no doubt that JPP should have been the defensive player of the year last year. But lets see what he does after the league adjusts to him.

I have no doubt that he will at least be very good. But to crown someone better then 1 of the top DEs in the NFL for the last 6 years after just 1 season is a little odd.

Lets keep in mind that JPP will now face the same double teams the elite DEs like Cole, Allen and Tuck face on a regular basis. And I assume that teams will not allow a TE to line up 1 on 1 to block JPP like teams did last year.

Unless of course you're the Dallas Cowboys and ask your injured TE (Witten) to block him 1 on 1 on 3 occasions last night.

Did anyone else pick up on that stupidity ??? And people think football is friggen rocket science ??

And NFL coaches wonder why fans don't think they are any smarter with the game of football then the average fan.

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Eags might have the better depth but the Giants are better at the top.

JPP>Cole

Tuck> Babin

Osi> whomever

Jpp has to do it more than one year to even be in coles league let alone better than him.

The fact of the matter is our DL done sort of pressure on nearly 20% more drop backs than the giant did last year and we had stopped runs behind the line a greater percentage of time.

The giants DL is better at one thing...batting passes

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I love all the fans that take what a player did for 1 year and assume that is what the player is going to be. Haven't we all seen endless players look like the next great HOF player only to come down to earth the next year never to return to that elite form ???

Listen there is no doubt that JPP should have been the defensive player of the year last year. But lets see what he does after the league adjusts to him.

I have no doubt that he will at least be very good. But to crown someone better then 1 of the top DEs in the NFL for the last 6 years after just 1 season is a little odd.

Lets keep in mind that JPP will now face the same double teams the elite DEs like Cole, Allen and Tuck face on a regular basis. And I assume that teams will not allow a TE to line up 1 on 1 to block JPP like teams did last year.

Unless of course you're the Dallas Cowboys and ask your injured TE (Witten) to block him 1 on 1 on 3 occasions last night.

Did anyone else pick up on that stupidity ??? And people think football is friggen rocket science ??

And NFL coaches wonder why fans don't think they are any smarter with the game of football then the average fan.

The only pressure jpp got last night came when he was 1 on 1 against witten and he still didn't garner a sack.

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A bunch of homers, the Giants are clearly better at the DL than us.

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A bunch of homers, the Giants are clearly better at the DL than us.

People say that. But theyre never able to say why.

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Guys is it me or people are too quick to give te leagues best DL to the giants?? People say we are deeper but not on the giants level and I don't see why.

When Tuck and Osi show up sometimes. OL hate playing us because we come in waves. There can be no relaxing against our DL. Washburn preaches all out effort every snap. It works because guys snaps are limited and they take advantage of all snaps.

Thoughts??

Last night showed how a smart QB and a piss poor secondary can completely negate a very talented D-Line.

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A bunch of homers, the Giants are clearly better at the DL than us.

Maybe you didn't notice but besides L.Joseph their DTs are not very good. Not 1 of those DTs would make the Eagles.

And lest not forget that their DEs are only 3 deep. And 1 is an injury waiting to happen.

So to say clearly is just not true.

They are the 2 best DLs in the NFL and because of the lack of depth with the Giants DL and having no DTs, they are just 1 more injury away from having some minor issues.

Last night showed how a smart QB and a piss poor secondary can completely negate a very talented D-Line.

Listen we all knew the Giants DBs weren't very good, but boy that statement couldn't be any truer.

Truer ??? Is that an actual word ???

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People will always say the giants based on JPP and Tuck but our DL, if all healthy, will be ferocious in december/onward with our line rotation in place. WHile teams Olines will be run down, our guys should be fresh and ready to go.

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A bunch of homers, the Giants are clearly better at the DL than us.

We're better pass rushers, they're better all around. Imo

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Their defense also stepped up, like Chase Blackburn and Corey Webster.

It's not enough just for the line to get pressure.

You can get 2 good pass rush (say 1st and 2nd down).

But if you blink on 3rd down, you give up a big play and all that work is negated.

So it's not quantity or even quality, but consistency. Get off the field, make plays at the right time/big moments.

That's why they're champs. They may got lucky, they may be weak at 9-7, but they consistently brought the goods when it mattered.

Have we brought the goods when it mattered? Heck, we haven't won a playoff game since McNabb left, and I thought we were that good.

Sure, we were reloading in the last couple years and are now the 2nd youngest team, so we'll see now that everyone's more "mature", if they can bring the goods.

Like T-Sizzle says.... Ball So Hard. It's football. It's a game. No more talk, it's time to DO.

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Eags might have the better depth but the Giants are better at the top.

JPP>Cole

Tuck> Babin

Osi> whomever

That's because you're comparing incorrectly.

Sacks

Babin > JPP

Cole > Tuck

Everyone else > Osi.

RDEF

Everyone > Babin and Osi.

Osi is overrated, especially because, unless he breaks that rule this year, Osi's rule of thumb is he's flat against the Eagles. Pesonally, I think the best lineman on both teams is JPP, though.

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Maybe you didn't notice but besides L.Joseph their DTs are not very good. Not 1 of those DTs would make the Eagles.

And lest not forget that their DEs are only 3 deep. And 1 is an injury waiting to happen.

So to say clearly is just not true.

They are the 2 best DLs in the NFL and because of the lack of depth with the Giants DL and having no DTs, they are just 1 more injury away from having some minor issues.

Listen we all knew the Giants DBs weren't very good, but boy that statement couldn't be any truer.

Truer ??? Is that an actual word ???

They have Kiwi they are more than 3 deep.

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That's because you're comparing incorrectly.

Sacks

Babin > JPP

Cole > Tuck

Everyone else > Osi.

RDEF

Everyone > Babin and Osi.

Osi is overrated, especially because, unless he breaks that rule this year, Osi's rule of thumb is he's flat against the Eagles. Pesonally, I think the best lineman on both teams is JPP, though.

You're in a fantasy world, not 1 eagles DE would start on the Giants.

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Ask this same question a little later into the season when people actually know enough to answer.

Again, the Giants DL has played exactly ONE game this season, and they played poorly.

The Eagles DL has played ZERO games this season.

NONE of you know the answer to this question.

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You're in a fantasy world, not 1 eagles DE would start on the Giants.

Yeah, you're funny. Trent Cole vs Justin Tuck is a complete toss up. What about Justin Tuck makes him better than Cole again? JPP I'll give you that, though.

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Yeah, you're funny. Trent Cole vs Justin Tuck is a complete toss up. What about Justin Tuck makes him better than Cole again? JPP I'll give you that, though.

He creates more turnovers, he forces a ton of fumbles.

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