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[Footballman175]

- He is the best Cornerback in College Football right now.

- Yes, he may go in the top 10 picks, but who knows maybe the Eagles play Foles and we lose or Milliner slips to us?

- 6 Ft 1, 198 Pounds

- Projected As of 10/31/12: Top 10 Pick

[EaglesCB37]

If Milliner is available when the Eagles' pick comes he should be a no-brainer. I used to be against drafting a cornerback, but pairing him up with DRC and moving Nnamdi to free safety while getting rid of Kurt Coleman would make our secondary that much better.

[Dubbed17]

If Nnamdi gets cut, corner will be our biggest need.

Milliner is my number one target right now.

[Dubbed17]

Bump. Nnamdi's gone and we need a starter.

[pgcd3]

Morris Claiborne didn't look so good yesterday. Don't disagree with the pick but it's dangerous to count on any draft pick starting especially at such a key position

[WR_please]

Exactly the kind of player the Eagles need.  This guy can play man, zone, the slot, and he can tackle.  He would be the first complete CB this team has had in years.

[Golfesv]

EaglesCB37, on 30 October 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

If Milliner is available when the Eagles' pick comes he should be a no-brainer. I used to be against drafting a cornerback, but pairing him up with DRC and moving Nnamdi to free safety while getting rid of Kurt Coleman would make our secondary that much better.

That sounds like a decent idea. I think something needs to be done with Nnamdi he is being paid way too much for the lack of production he puts out. Do you think he can hit hard enough he seems to lack that which concerns me if we move him to FS.

[EaglesCB37]

Golfesv, on 14 November 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

That sounds like a decent idea. I think something needs to be done with Nnamdi he is being paid way too much for the lack of production he puts out. Do you think he can hit hard enough he seems to lack that which concerns me if we move him to FS.

I said that a while ago, just scratch that and cut Nnamdi unless the new DC believes he can bring him back to his Oakland form.

[chubbz8it]

pgcd3, on 12 November 2012 - 03:11 PM, said:

Morris Claiborne didn't look so good yesterday. Don't disagree with the pick but it's dangerous to count on any draft pick starting especially at such a key position

You win games in the trenches.  We need to draft a monster Olineman and use Bryce Brown and Mccoy heavily.  Mathis is small and overrated...Herrimans was never elite and has been declining.  Move Herrmians inside and let Watkins and Mathis fight for starting spot and draft OT

[BtotheH]

Aso needs to be cut, too much money for an average at best CB. Drafting Milliner would be a smart pick.

Claiborne looked sorry the other game but then again look at Prince Amukamura, Giants are not very happy with his progression either. Amukamura gets beat a lot and has had a few injuries.

We need to draft a CB who can be here for long term to go against Cruz, Nicks, Bryant and not tomention other elite receivers we face every year.

[Footballman175]

CBS - Projected As Of 11/21/12: 1st Round, Top 5 (4th Overall Prospect, Highest Rated Corner)

[GODALLAS]

Footballman175, on 30 October 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

- He is the best Cornerback in College Football right now.

- Yes, he may go in the top 10 picks, but who knows maybe the Eagles play Foles and we lose or Milliner slips to us?

- 6 Ft 1, 198 Pounds

- Projected As of 10/31/12: Top 10 Pick

Great CB. Not a need for the Eagles compared to most positions. You just need DRC and Nnamdi to grow a pair of nuts and youll be fine.

[Footballman175]

(CBS) Projected As Of 11/28/12 - 4th Overall Pick

* In the last 10 years there has only been 2 Cornerbacks ever drafted in the Top 5: Patrick Peterson (2011) & Terrence Newman (2003)

[GODALLAS]

Footballman175, on 28 November 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

(CBS) Projected As Of 11/28/12 - 4th Overall Pick

* In the last 10 years there has only been 2 Cornerbacks ever drafted in the Top 5: Patrick Peterson (2011) & Terrence Newman (2003)

And he wont be the 3rd. I think he falls a bit. I mean, do u really need to take a CB when there are so many other issues at hand on your team? I know that CB is a position that is valued pretty highly in today's NFL, but you probably arent getting the next Deion, so maybe you should look for someone else. CB covers 1 player, and its not like he wont get beat either. Everyone gets beat, so how is it that youre going to take a CB and automatically have a chance to be competitive? I think you really need to start in the trenches. The team that controls the trenches wins the game. The fact you guy cut Babin is a sign that the Dline is having trouble. And while your Oline is hurt pretty badly, its not like you had a top tier Oline before all the injuries.

[ferrisbueller84]

I'm on board if DRC doesn't get resigned...we'd have a great trio then.  Somehow upgrade S in the 2nd round.  Either way, I believe in drafting BPA...personally IDK if I like Rhodes or Milliner better.

[Footballman175]

GODALLAS, on 28 November 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

And he wont be the 3rd. I think he falls a bit. I mean, do u really need to take a CB when there are so many other issues at hand on your team? I know that CB is a position that is valued pretty highly in today's NFL, but you probably arent getting the next Deion, so maybe you should look for someone else. CB covers 1 player, and its not like he wont get beat either. Everyone gets beat, so how is it that youre going to take a CB and automatically have a chance to be competitive? I think you really need to start in the trenches. The team that controls the trenches wins the game. The fact you guy cut Babin is a sign that the Dline is having trouble. And while your Oline is hurt pretty badly, its not like you had a top tier Oline before all the injuries.

Milliner is a different type of corner than the norm. He is a safety and a cover corner at the same time basically. He blitzes, covers, and tackles better than any corner in College football. You wanna see a Corner that can actually tackle in an Eagles uniform? Milliner is the guy.

DRC or Nnamdi will be gone. I am not satisfied with Curtis Marsh as a starting corner.

[GODALLAS]

Footballman175, on 28 November 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

Milliner is a different type of corner than the norm. He is a safety and a cover corner at the same time basically. He blitzes, covers, and tackles better than any corner in College football. You wanna see a Corner that can actually tackle in an Eagles uniform? Milliner is the guy.

DRC or Nnamdi will be gone. I am not satisfied with Curtis Marsh as a starting corner.

Whos in FA? I know that Millner is supposed to be hot ish, and i suppose at the end of the day Bueller is right that you guy have a lot of needs and BPA is probably the way to go. But i think you also need to consider who is going to impact the team most? I would assume you want as quick of a recovery as possible, because at this point, we all know the Eagles are going into rebuild mode. But i would assume you want to take a guy that is going to be the most impactful player you can get, and a positive impact obviously. I suppose drafting a major bust is a big impact, but were talking positive impact. Does Dee Millner look the part to be the most impactful player? Im just curious, what are your guys' top 10 players regardless of position at this point?

[ferrisbueller84]

Footballman175, on 28 November 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

Milliner is a different type of corner than the norm. He is a safety and a cover corner at the same time basically. He blitzes, covers, and tackles better than any corner in College football. You wanna see a Corner that can actually tackle in an Eagles uniform? Milliner is the guy.

DRC or Nnamdi will be gone. I am not satisfied with Curtis Marsh as a starting corner.

Both will not be gone...Nnamdi will take a paycut and we'll see what happens with DRC.  He's gonna want a contract, so unless he's tagged I doubt he stays.  
Before we even think about cutting Nnamdi we need to see if we can address the S position, which has been a joke this year.  Jarrett being a complete waste of space really hurt us.  Coleman is so bad to the point where we have to put him in Allen's position and make Allen play out of his norm.  Upgrade SS and Nnamdi will look like an all pro again.  Remember you can't expect your CB to cover a WR for more than 3-5 seconds when the DL isn't getting pressure.  He's far from the problem.

[ferrisbueller84]

GODALLAS, on 28 November 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Whos in FA? I know that Millner is supposed to be hot ish, and i suppose at the end of the day Bueller is right that you guy have a lot of needs and BPA is probably the way to go. But i think you also need to consider who is going to impact the team most? I would assume you want as quick of a recovery as possible, because at this point, we all know the Eagles are going into rebuild mode. But i would assume you want to take a guy that is going to be the most impactful player you can get, and a positive impact obviously. I suppose drafting a major bust is a big impact, but were talking positive impact. Does Dee Millner look the part to be the most impactful player? Im just curious, what are your guys' top 10 players regardless of position at this point?

I didn't say we have a lot of needs...
If we're going into rebuild mode...OT/CB are our needs at this point then.  If we wanna stay competitive and build over the next 2 years.  QB is the big one...don't like anyone this year (other than Nassib as a project).  
Also the senior bowl and combine are miles away...it isn't time to talk about top 10 but here goes...I'll include some juniors I think should be coming out as well

1. Mingo (depending on the combine and his "weight gain" this year
2. Joeckel
3. Werner
4. Jones, Jarvis
5. Lewan
6. Milliner
7. Rhodes
8. Lutelelei
9. Tavon Austin
10. Banks/Matthews

low on Te'o, Barkley, Geno, and Moore.  Combine can help Moore and maybe Te'o.

[ferrisbueller84]

one thing to also keep in mind...we're talking about a Bama player.  They might as well be a semi pro team.  A few years ago I thought McClain was worthy of a top 5 pick.  Last year Kirkpatrick was a "top 10" pick and he can't even dress on the Bungles.  etc etc

I caution looking at Bama players and comparing them straight up to other players around the nation.  They're playing with NFL caliber players at almost every position.  I loved Rhodes coming into the year...haven't watched enough of him this year yet to have an opinion though.  Banks I'm not sold on...gotta see how he produces at the combine.

[Footballman175]

Kirpatrick is nothing like Milliner...that's why he was a middle 1st round pick. Even that, you are really going to judge Kirpatrick because of an injury? Makes no sense. Kirpatrick has a ton of potential.

And Rhodes doesn't even compare to Milliner. On complete different levels in my opinion. Late 1st Round Pick for Rhodes

Milliner is a franchise Cornerback. Plays the best when in big games....

[GODALLAS]

ferrisbueller84, on 28 November 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

I didn't say we have a lot of needs...
If we're going into rebuild mode...OT/CB are our needs at this point then.  If we wanna stay competitive and build over the next 2 years.  QB is the big one...don't like anyone this year (other than Nassib as a project).  
Also the senior bowl and combine are miles away...it isn't time to talk about top 10 but here goes...I'll include some juniors I think should be coming out as well

1. Mingo (depending on the combine and his "weight gain" this year
2. Joeckel
3. Werner
4. Jones, Jarvis
5. Lewan
6. Milliner
7. Rhodes
8. Lutelelei
9. Tavon Austin
10. Banks/Matthews

low on Te'o, Barkley, Geno, and Moore.  Combine can help Moore and maybe Te'o.

Im not real high on an QB or Te'o either. Te'o might be really good, but idk. Im not convinced any QB is going to be very good this year. So if youre sitting there at lets say #1 and youre the GM who do u take? Im just curious...

[ferrisbueller84]

Footballman175, on 28 November 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

Kirpatrick is nothing like Milliner...that's why he was a middle 1st round pick. Even that, you are really going to judge Kirpatrick because of an injury? Makes no sense. Kirpatrick has a ton of potential.

And Rhodes doesn't even compare to Milliner. On complete different levels in my opinion. Late 1st Round Pick for Rhodes

Milliner is a franchise Cornerback. Plays the best when in big games....

Not once did I compare anybody to anybody else.  I said take what you see with a grain of salt considering the talent around them and the talent they're playing.  Milliner is a tremendous CB...I like him a lot so don't get me wrong.

[ferrisbueller84]

GODALLAS, on 28 November 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

Im not real high on an QB or Te'o either. Te'o might be really good, but idk. Im not convinced any QB is going to be very good this year. So if youre sitting there at lets say #1 and youre the GM who do u take? Im just curious...

I'd love either of the 2 OT's in that list.

[inhumanehuman]

Flame away, but I'd rather have Tyrann Mathieu, and he's declaring this year.

[Footballman175]

inhumanehuman, on 29 November 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

Flame away, but I'd rather have Tyrann Mathieu, and he's declaring this year.

hahahahahahaha

this is one of the funniest things i've heard all day. Mathieu is 5 foot 9 and would get abused in man to man coverage, something the Eagles don't need. Even after Mathieu's heisman year i wouldn't have picked him in the 1st round. Milliner is 6 ft 2, 200 lbs and the best All-Around Corner in College Football this year.

[inhumanehuman]

Footballman175, on 29 November 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

hahahahahahaha

this is one of the funniest things i've heard all day. Mathieu is 5 foot 9 and would get abused in man to man coverage, something the Eagles don't need. Even after Mathieu's heisman year i wouldn't have picked him in the 1st round. Milliner is 6 ft 2, 200 lbs and the best All-Around Corner in College Football this year.

and yet, Mathieu was a finalist for the Heisman, an honor that only 3 other defensive players in the history of college football history have achieved. Laugh all you want, but that kid is a ball hawk.

[Footballman175]

inhumanehuman, on 29 November 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

and yet, Mathieu was a finalist for the Heisman, an honor that only 3 other defensive players in the history of college football history have achieved. Laugh all you want, but that kid is a ball hawk.

A 5 Ft 9 corner who can't play anything other then zone packages doesn't translate to the NFL.

The Eagles have no need at all for a headcase like Mathieu.

With that said, a guy like Milliner is 6 Ft 2, has the best coverage ability in College Football, and tackles like a safety playing the corner spot. COMPLETE ALL-AROUND CORNER

[ryguy552]

Footballman175, on 29 November 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

A 5 Ft 9 corner doesn't translate to the NFL unless you want to move him to slot, which the Eagles already have.

Therefore the Eagles have no need at all for a headcase like Mathieu.

Mathieu despite his size gets in the box and whacks people. He could be an in the box safety in our system, he could also play slot cb effectively and we could move Boykin to the outside.

[Footballman175]

ryguy552, on 29 November 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

Mathieu despite his size gets in the box and whacks people. He could be an in the box safety in our system, he could also play slot cb effectively and we could move Boykin to the outside.

Boykin to the outside? Not going to happen. Slot corner is where the Eagles see Boykin's future at. Even if he were to go to the outside, he would be extremely undersized just like Mathieu. Maybe it's just me, but I don't want undersized midgets playing outside.

Mathieu is not going to be an Eagle. I can guarantee you that.