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#1 stang8118

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:10 AM

http://espn.go.com/n...nfl-sources-say

Within the past year, the multiyear contract extension the Saints announced for Sean Payton in September 2011 was voided by the NFL, making the suspended head coach a free agent after this season and casting questions on how long he will remain in New Orleans, according to league sources.
Payton is expected to become the NFL's most sought-after head coach after this season and there already is speculation in league circles that he could wind up returning to Dallas, where he worked as the assistant head coach from 2003 to 2005, during which time the Cowboys brought in quarterback Tony Romo, who attended the same college, Eastern Illinois, as Payton.


Just as Payton's role in the bounty scandal has been an ongoing saga with the NFL for the past year, so has his contract.
As recently as March, when Payton was visiting NFL offices to appeal his yearlong suspension in the bounty scandal, he asked NFL commissioner Roger Goodell for the status of his contract extension and was told it was unsatisfactory as it initially was constituted, sources said.
At issue in the contract was one specific clause that would have enabled Payton to walk away from the deal if general manager Mickey Loomis was suspended, fired or left the New Orleans organization, sources said.
The league believed that any such language in Payton's contract would set a bad precedent for other coaching contracts and rejected the deal well before Loomis was suspended for the first eight games this season for his part in the bounty scandal.
Dating back to roughly the start of this year, the two sides engaged in numerous subsequent conversations to try to resolve the issue but never did.
In the interim, the league has granted Payton permission to work for Saints owner Tom Benson's NBA New Orleans team, and the suspended head coach has been doing some spot work there to earn income.



Some in the league office believe Payton's contract could toll -- meaning the last year would be put on hold, tying him to New Orleans for the 2013 season -- but there is no evidence to confirm that possibility. Until now, the league has not been asked to review or rule on the contract, according to sources, though some believe it eventually could.
To others, there is no issue. Payton will be a free agent. Some believe Payton's strong relationship with Benson will be enough to keep him in New Orleans long term.
But others are more skeptical, knowing that the suspended head coach has undergone some personal changes in his life that have included going through a divorce and spending plenty of time in Dallas.
When Benson initially announced last year the extension for Payton that never got league approval, he said: "I am very pleased to announce this contract extension today for Sean that will run through the 2015 season. Our goal is to continue to build a tradition of winning here in New Orleans and Sean represents that tradition."



I'm sure he'll resign with them, but wouldn't it be nice to have him as a coach?

#2 Hoagie

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:28 AM

Lurie would never spend the money, even if it was a legit option.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:30 AM

Lurie would never spend the money, even if it was a legit option.


When has Lurie ever shown to be cheap? There has been many times the Eagles made a certain FA the highest paid at his position.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:52 AM

When has Lurie ever shown to be cheap? There has been many times the Eagles made a certain FA the highest paid at his position.


Eagles have consistently been one of the lowest spenders against the cap. Also, he opted to go the cheap route when he hired Reid remember?

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:11 AM

Eagles have consistently been one of the lowest spenders against the cap. Also, he opted to go the cheap route when he hired Reid remember?


The team was also in a different situation back then. Reid has been one of the higer paid coaches in the league with the extensions he's received over the years, and there is no cap for coaches. I have no idea if Lurie would want Payton, but I don't see money being the issue.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:14 AM

Lurie absolutely would spend that money, but Payton will not become a FA HC. He will resign.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:24 AM

A: I think Lurie would pay that kind of money. The guy wants to win, and I could easily see him pursuing Peyton.

B: I'm honestly not sure Peyton is the right fit for us, but I'd welcome his fiery style and he brings the competitive fire this team needs to see in a HC

C: It might not be the worst thing for Peyton to coach elsewhere. Expand that resume a bit

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 11:27 AM

The team was also in a different situation back then. Reid has been one of the higer paid coaches in the league with the extensions he's received over the years, and there is no cap for coaches. I have no idea if Lurie would want Payton, but I don't see money being the issue.


Maybe they were in a different situation. The cap is not the point though. I just don't think Lurie will go into a bidding war with Dallas and New Orleans over this guy.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 11:33 AM

Lurie absolutely would spend that money, but Payton will not become a FA HC. He will resign.


More money than Jerry would? I don't think so.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 11:38 AM

More money than Jerry would? I don't think so.

So really it's not about Lurie not spending money to get him, it's about Jerry spending more than any other owner.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 12:59 PM

Maybe they were in a different situation. The cap is not the point though. I just don't think Lurie will go into a bidding war with Dallas and New Orleans over this guy.


It would really depend on how much Lurie wanted him. I don't think Lurie's search for a coach would be hindered by money though.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 01:42 PM

He'll stay with the Saints.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 02:01 PM

His family does reside in Dallas...

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 02:04 PM

Can you imagine if Dallas gets Payton and Lurie decides to retain Reid?

This place will make Chernobyl look like 3 Mile Island.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 02:25 PM

Can you imagine if Dallas gets Payton and Lurie decides to retain Reid?

This place will make Chernobyl look like 3 Mile Island.



I actually don't think Payton would go to Dallas...just seems like he would command the kind of authority and personnel decisions that Jerry wouldn't be willing to give up.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 02:28 PM

Eagles have consistently been one of the lowest spenders against the cap. Also, he opted to go the cheap route when he hired Reid remember?


Haha this is where you are wrong. The way they manipulate the cap they are able to carry over certain bonuses and stuff to the following years. There was a 8-10 year stretch that the Eagles were by far the biggest spenders for its players. I forget where I saw the article, but during the 2000's they were always in great cap shape, but they were the highest spending team because of how they structured the contracts. Joey Nickles was amazing at that type of thing.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:06 PM

I actually don't think Payton would go to Dallas...just seems like he would command the kind of authority and personnel decisions that Jerry wouldn't be willing to give up.

Exactly. One of Dallas' biggest problems is the fact that their owner is an attention **** celebrity who is always on camera. Not to mention he's very meddlesome. Payton would be wise to look elsewhere. Lord knows there will be plenty of teams willing to accommodate him.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:13 PM

Can you imagine if Dallas gets Payton and Lurie decides to retain Reid?

This place will make Chernobyl look like 3 Mile Island.

I can't see Lurie retaining Reid at this point. He absolutely has to have a deep play off run this year which I don't think any of us believes is going to happen.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:22 PM

I can't see Lurie retaining Reid at this point. He absolutely has to have a deep play off run this year which I don't think any of us believes is going to happen.


Yeah I definitely think he's gone. I'm just imagining the EMB if my scenario were to play out. :lol:

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:07 PM

So really it's not about Lurie not spending money to get him, it's about Jerry spending more than any other owner.


Combination of both. I'm afraid NO would spend more to retain him too.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:10 PM

Haha this is where you are wrong. The way they manipulate the cap they are able to carry over certain bonuses and stuff to the following years. There was a 8-10 year stretch that the Eagles were by far the biggest spenders for its players. I forget where I saw the article, but during the 2000's they were always in great cap shape, but they were the highest spending team because of how they structured the contracts. Joey Nickles was amazing at that type of thing.


Umm I never said any of that wasn't true. Notice how I said "lowest spenders against the cap. In terms of cap hits, Eagles have consistently been among the least in the NFL.. Thus more wiggle room, which is what i was trying to get at... yet they didn't capitalize on it the way they could have. Recent years have been better, but in the early 00's it was not spending money on key positions (WR, MLB) and leaving cap space in the double digits that ultimately cost us SB champ opportunities.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:16 PM

Wow, i really want to see Sean Payton finish his career with the saints , he built that franchise. I don't think he'll coach for the eagles, he hates them to much.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:23 PM

Payton would have fun in the Eagles though because of the cap space. Plus he would have lots of power to do whatever he wanted. I could see Eagles pursue him but don't know who would win. Most likely it wont go in our favor though and he stays with Saints.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 08:02 PM

Wow, i really want to see Sean Payton finish his career with the saints , he built that franchise. I don't think he'll coach for the eagles, he hates them to much.

does he? and he had history here too

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 08:27 PM

This guy might be the biggest crook in the history of professional sports. Can anyone name a bigger one?