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[The Mammoth]

Bear with me TATErs.

I can't put this on Vick anymore. The absolute and utter failure of our offensive line to even get in anyone's way last night was appalling.

On more than one occasion, I saw an entire side of the offensive line get knocked off their feet and into Vick's lap. Kelly and Bell were getting thrown in the air like rag dolls (stop standing straight up you fat idiots). The center was in over his head and failed to check down to inside gap blocks when they showed blitz. I am willing to bet there are high school linemen that could have put up a better fight against that pass rush.

Even worse, Vick was constantly audibling into runs to avoid getting crushed, and they still couldn't figure it out. When he did pass, he rarely had more than 4 seconds to throw, sometimes not even 2.

I don't care who is behind center, the complete incompetence of our offensive line is so bad it's amazing. Nobody can be successful behind that, and that is entirely on Andy Reid and Howard Mudd.

With all the injuries we've had, it's acceptable to suck a little bit, but to not have a SINGLE SERVICABLE back-up is a complete and absurd failure of the coaching staff.

I think Vick bearing with the punishment and not getting injured is sign enough he should get another year behind another coach.

Fire the fat man. Today.

[Solomon]

It's not Vick or the OL, it's both. A bad QB behind a bad OL = 2012 Eagles

[The Mammoth]

Solomon, on 06 November 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

It's not Vick or the OL, it's both. A bad QB behind a bad OL = 2012 Eagles

I would say an average QB behind a horrible O-line. But around the right idea.

[Meccadon123]

it is hands down MORE the line and coaches than it is Vick..when you have Steve Young giving you props as a man first and then a QB you're doing something right...I'm no Vick lover...but this line and coaching staff is getting embarrassed...and its pathetic.

[polish_rifle]

Meccadon123, on 06 November 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

it is hands down MORE the line and coaches than it is Vick..when you have Steve Young giving you props as a man first and then a QB you're doing something right...I'm no Vick lover...but this line and coaching staff is getting embarrassed...and its pathetic.

agree 100% - vick has made some mistajes, but when you half .5 secs every single time you drop back, how effective can you be? The way this team has been put together and coached -- the blame clearly is in the hands of andy, howie and mudd

[judunno]

Solomon, on 06 November 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

It's not Vick or the OL, it's both. A bad QB behind a bad OL = 2012 Eagles

Add Bad Coach. A Bad scheme... and I think you're on to something.

[McnabbsPHIeagles]

Trent Dilfer did a feature before the game, Vick gets an average 1 and half seconds of protection everytime he drops back. Its ridicolous, no one will succeed with that.

[DawkinsOwnage03]

He threw a 99 yard VICK SIX to cap the end of a great drive that started the DOWNFALL

[JonnyEagles69]

Vick just needs to retire , he got a 2nd chance to play the game. He would be smart to be thankful and get a job commentating

[CMPunk]

DawkinsOwnage03, on 06 November 2012 - 12:49 PM, said:

He threw a 99 yard VICK SIX to cap the end of a great drive that started the DOWNFALL

Would you take Jeff George, JP Losman or Brady Quinn over Vick? I wanna see something.

[greenpassion]

when we get into the redzone why cant we just hand it off to the guy who scored twenty tds last year? just line up and go straight ahead none of that running to the sideline crap that you dont have the blocking for

[DawkinsOwnage03]

They are all on the same level and that IS THE FAIL.

[CMPunk]

DawkinsOwnage03, on 06 November 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

They are all on the same level and that IS THE FAIL.

Another Question, would you take Mika Kafka, Ryan Leaf or Joey Harrington over Vick? Thank you for participating in CMPunk's survey.

[LaxPlayerX3]

CMPunk, on 06 November 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

Would you take Jeff George, JP Losman or Brady Quinn over Vick? I wanna see something.

You mean backup QBs which is exactly the category he should be included in at this point.

CMPunk, on 06 November 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

Another Question, would you take Mika Kafka, Ryan Leaf or Joey Harrington over Vick? Thank you for participating in CMPunk's survey.

Also, you're a big ****ot to boot.

[DawkinsOwnage03]

CMPunk, on 06 November 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

Another Question, would you take Mika Kafka, Ryan Leaf or Joey Harrington over Vick? Thank you for participating in CMPunk's survey.

All are on the same page at this point, again the fail that has set in here.  The only QB starting in the NFL doing worse than Vick is Brady Quinn.

[Krukslonelyball]

It's actually pretty easy to blame Vick. He's in the most important position on the field and he can't manage his guys. He can't read a blitz, he can't make assignments. He can't even attempt to compete in an nfl shootout against good teams.

[DawkinsOwnage03]

When he threw the 99 yard Vick six, I wasnt even mad, I actually laughed.  It was Arizona part II, but on that fumble six I was furious.

[stillhoneymooning]

I'm not a fan of Vick, and I'd like to see Foles start.  That being said, I can't find too much fault with Vick last night, given what he had to work wtih in terms of protection.  He actually made some good decisions and predictably, a few bad ones, but I DON'T want to see Foles in there with this garbage line and having absolutely no time to get rid of the ball.

[downsoufeagleluva]

Im a Vick fan.  He takes too long to set his passes up period.

Its time he doesnt have, and hasnt had, and wont get.  I dont need to see any more to think it will get any better.

[=Tre=]

I am not a Vick supporter but you can't blame him for that loss.  There are not many qb's that could have played well with that line.

[Sbuckets]

Last night was not his fault. OUr line is a complete mess. We have backups and practice squad guys in there. We know they weent going to be good. But it is crystal clear the Vick is not the answer at QB. The loss was a complete team loss including the HC. VIck failed to adjust at the line on the key downs. The stopped running in the red zone. Our D let up 140 yds on the ground to the worst running team in the league. Our offense is the only offense this year not to score at least 24 pts against the worst D in the league. We have over 470 yds of offense with only 13 pts to show for it. The play calling was stale and predicable yet again. Thsi team is truly lost. It hasnt been in a long long time. The AR era has truly run its course.

[craigj]

Th line looked better tonight v. Dallas, so did the defense. No excuses, just observations. Once Foles go tin there they stepped up; protection was solid (mostly). stupid mistakes and bad luck tonight. Bit the kid looked good.

[DawkinsOwnage03]

Solomon, on 06 November 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

It's not Vick or the OL, it's both. A bad QB behind a bad OL = 2012 Eagles

Bingo, vick sucked last year with a good oline.

[iluvdaeagles]

craigj, on 11 November 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

Th line looked better tonight v. Dallas, so did the defense. No excuses, just observations. Once Foles go tin there they stepped up; protection was solid (mostly). stupid mistakes and bad luck tonight. Bit the kid looked good.

obviously by looking at the content and spelling of this post this guy has been drinking