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[russrock1]

Remember all the talk in the offseason?

Manning has lit a fire under that team and they are playing great. Hes basically a coach on the playing field.


Even though this team has the worst o-line ive ever seen something tells me P. Manning would still be tearing it up here.

[eagles_crazy]

russrock1, on 06 November 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:

Remember all the talk in the offseason?

Manning has lit a fire under that team and they are playing great. Hes basically a coach on the playing field.


Even though this team has the worst o-line ive ever seen something tells me P. Manning would still be tearing it up here.

If the Eagles never signed Vick,  Manning might have ended up here (after the failed Kolb experiment) The Eagles would be at least 6-2. JMHO

[MR-CYN]

Winning. It would have been winning.

[mike030270]

I think he would have lit his contract on fire and say "The hell with this I'm not getting killed behind this line after just getting out of surgery"

[polish_rifle]

Manning would be on the IR or retired from the NFL behind this pathetic o-line

[eagles_crazy]

mike030270, on 06 November 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:

I think he would have lit his contract on fire and say "The hell with this I'm not getting killed behind this line after just getting out of surgery"

Manning gets rid of the ball so fast that he wouldn't have taken half the hits Vick does. Manning also understands blocking schemes and knows how to audible so there wouldn't be as many free rushes like it is with Vick. Last but not least, Manning process information and makes reads so fast, that he'll get the ball out before the defender gets there. So far he's been sacked about 10 times at Denver, maybe he would of got sacked about 16 times here. One more thing, Manning would run the show/playcalling, so there would have been more running plays for McCoy. Just not having Marty and Andy call the plays, would be worth having Manning here.

[CalgaryFan77]

Does he play safety, o-line, linebacker?  Obviously he's still one of the greatest ever, but to believe that the Eagles are one player upgrade from average to great away from turning it around right now, is head in the sand at best.

Look at the Redskins, they were thought to be way closer to the jump to greatness last year than the Eagles look now, and RG3 has played better than all expectations, and they still have the same record.

[mike030270]

eagles_crazy, on 06 November 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

Manning gets rid of the ball so fast that he wouldn't have taken half the hits Vick does. Manning also understands blocking schemes and knows how to audible so there wouldn't be as many free rushes like it is with Vick. Last but not least, Manning process information and makes reads so fast, that he'll get the ball out before the defender gets there. So far he's been sacked about 10 times at Denver, maybe he would of got sacked about 16 times here. One more thing, Manning would run the show/playcalling, so there would have been more running plays for McCoy. Just not having Marty and Andy call the plays, would be worth having Manning here.

That's nice and all but this Oline woudn't even let Manning have time to do anything.

[eagles_crazy]

CalgaryFan77, on 06 November 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

Does he play safety, o-line, linebacker?  Obviously he's still one of the greatest ever, but to believe that the Eagles are one player upgrade from average to great away from turning it around right now, is head in the sand at best.

Look at the Redskins, they were thought to be way closer to the jump to greatness last year than the Eagles look now, and RG3 has played better than all expectations, and they still have the same record.

I don't think anyone would debate that the entire team should be blown up, but minus getting one of the best qb's to ever play football, the eagles have 0 hope. The problem is that Howie is the Gm for the next 4-5 years, so the future isn't looking so bright.

[eagles_crazy]

mike030270, on 06 November 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

That's nice and all but this Oline woudn't even let Manning have time to do anything.

While I feel that Foles would make 0 difference. I do feel that having a proven guy like Manning who understands blocking schemes, knows how to call plays, could overrule Andy and call more running plays, set up a opposing defense to get the match up he wants,  and can get the ball out as fast as the best of them, would make a huge difference. JMHO.

[DawkinsOwnage03]

5-3 even with this oline imo

[Krukslonelyball]

Actually, manning can read a defense and would be able to call out assignments to his oline.

It's cute watching people who don't know the game talk about it.

[MR-CYN]

The Vick knob gobblers need to get it through their thick skulls that even if he had the Dallas line from the 90's he would still suck. He could have Randy Moss, Chris Carter, and Jerry Rice in their primes and he would still suck. Because he sucks, and not only does he suck, he makes everyone else around him suck.

[eagles_crazy]

Krukslonelyball, on 06 November 2012 - 02:57 PM, said:

Actually, manning can read a defense and would be able to call out assignments to his oline.

It's cute watching people who don't know the game talk about it.

and he could call more run plays. Manning would be one of the few QB's who could tell Andy to go shove his pass happy game plan you know where. That alone would mean less sacks and qb hits which means more points in the redzone..

[CountBlah]

Peyton and Eli were never going to play in the same division,  so I never gave it 1 second worth of my time.  Neither should anyone else.

[eagles_crazy]

CountBlah, on 06 November 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

Peyton and Eli were never going to play in the same division,  so I never gave it 1 second worth of my time.  Neither should anyone else.

I wouldn't argue that point. Who knows, but I do doubt that he would want to, despite the claims otherwise.

[CalgaryFan77]

Krukslonelyball, on 06 November 2012 - 02:57 PM, said:

Actually, manning can read a defense and would be able to call out assignments to his oline.

It's cute watching people who don't know the game talk about it.

The QB can only audible so much though.  If the guys can't actually keep a block for more than half a second it doesn't matter what the call is.  If the coach decides to go empty backfield against a 7 man rush, you can still only do so much.

[mike030270]

eagles_crazy, on 06 November 2012 - 02:56 PM, said:

While I feel that Foles would make 0 difference. I do feel that having a proven guy like Manning who understands blocking schemes, knows how to call plays, could overrule Andy and call more running plays, set up a opposing defense to get the match up he wants,  and can get the ball out as fast as the best of them, would make a huge difference. JMHO.

Manning can call plays but it's not always the plays. The players on this Oline suck. Denver's Oline was and is better than Eagles. I would love to have Manning, but not with this line.

[BDAWK_4EVER]

I was just thinking this the other day. Would've been nice, but like the Count stated, there was no chance he was going to play in the same division as Eli

[Sbuckets]

Behind this line, his career might have ended again.

[Mos Definite]

He'd be on the sidelines wearing a neckbrace and we'd be 7 and 1/2 games into the Nicky Foles experiment.

[immrbaldwin]

Manning would have a re-injured neck and be out of football

[vic92353]

russrock1, on 06 November 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:

Remember all the talk in the offseason?

Manning has lit a fire under that team and they are playing great. Hes basically a coach on the playing field.


Even though this team has the worst o-line ive ever seen something tells me P. Manning would still be tearing it up here.

I hate to tell you but With this O-line. He would probably have his neck injured again . And that would probably end his career under the hand of Andy Reid.  Don't forget Manning is used to being on teams that run the Football and Andy Reid does not beleive in it.

[eephraim]

Something tells me if I had 100 Million dollars I'd be happier.

WTF???? Peyton Manning is one of the best QB's to play the game...ever!

No kidding things would be better if he was the QB. He could make up his own playbook after seeing the sit that Andy and Marty dreamt up.

[odin8888]

Manning can read a defense, call audibles, throw to open receivers before they stop and turn around... etc etc etc

[xxeaglesfanxx]

Things would be different that is for sure.  But instead we decided to throw a ton of money at the "elite" Michael Vick instead of the truely elite Peyton Manning.  I always thought throwing money at Michael Vick was a bad idea but he had one good season and showed some flashes so the Eagles thought why not.  Instead we are stuck until at least the end of the year until he gets cut and ends up on the unemployment line and broke again.

[vic92353]

odin8888, on 06 November 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:

Manning can read a defense, call audibles, throw to open receivers before they stop and turn around... etc etc etc

That's true but with this line as soon as he put his hands on the ball the defenses would have his arse too. He wouldn't have time to do all that great stuff.  Have any of you been watching the games lately.  Don't forget Peyton Manning does that little pitty pat with his feet before he throws the ball.  The next time you see him play try to count how many times he runs in place before he throws the ball (that little pitty pat run he does).  Here,  he wouldn't have time to do the pitty pat thing he does.  

[JonnyEagles69]

are people still so blinded by Vick ? He is to dumb to get rid of the ball fast like a good QB . His brain fuctions slower then normal people thats why its takes 8 seconds to look at 3 WRs , after that it goes blank which we call brain farting .

[odin8888]

vic92353, on 06 November 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

That's true but with this line as soon as he put his hands on the ball the defenses would have his arse too. He wouldn't have time to do all that great stuff.  Have any of you been watching the games lately.  Don't forget Peyton Manning does that little pitty pat with his feet before he throws the ball.  The next time you see him play try to count how many times he runs in place before he throws the ball (that little pitty pat run he does).  Here,  he wouldn't have time to do the pitty pat thing he does.  

Nobody can argtue that the injuries and lack of solid experience backups on the O-line is a big part of the problem. But even those could be massaged over with a better qb and more balanced attack.

You also need an o-line that can run block

[ChimpKelly]

Threads like this and "JPP" are so depressing. Why do you guys do this to yourselves?