32 replies to this topic

[Ipspots]

tells me we are not interested in starting the rebuild process now. That we will waste more time and possibly lose out on possible candidate recruiting....

Also will be wasted any possible looking at young players to see what we have on the roster.. yes such as Foles...

sad,,, just sad.  Since last year Reid should have been gone, we have wasted this much time. Lurie looks to be wasting yet more time.

I really hate procrastination such as this... shows a weakness in GM's and CEO's   the time to be aggressive is NOW! Not when 6 other teams are looking at new regimes.... NOW is the time to talk with names like Grudog, Payton, Cowher, Dungy, Parcells etc.. and many more. Now is the time to start wooing....   why wait? What good will come of it? Why prolong the agony of the fans and team. Everyone knows Reid is a deadman walking.

[AceofSpades]

That's not true. Just because they can begin the process of finding a new head coach as soon as the job opens up, that doesn't mean interested candidates will take the job right away. People need to get over the names like Gruden & crew. Outside of 2002, what did Gruden really do as a head coach? Tampa got worse after they won the Super Bowl. Technically the Eagles wouldn't be able to talk to Payton as he's still under contract with the Saints. Parcells? Seriously? Do I even need to address this one? And the only way Dungy comes back is for a front office position. He's done coaching. People need to get over the names & start doing some real research on coaches and on the Eagles for that matter. The Eagles have NEVER hired a former NFL head coach to take over the franchise.

[Lloyd]

Ipspots, on 06 November 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

tells me we are not interested in starting the rebuild process now. That we will waste more time and possibly lose out on possible candidate recruiting....

Also will be wasted any possible looking at young players to see what we have on the roster.. yes such as Foles...

sad,,, just sad.  Since last year Reid should have been gone, we have wasted this much time. Lurie looks to be wasting yet more time.

I really hate procrastination such as this... shows a weakness in GM's and CEO's   the time to be aggressive is NOW! Not when 6 other teams are looking at new regimes.... NOW is the time to talk with names like Grudog, Payton, Cowher, Dungy, Parcells etc.. and many more. Now is the time to start wooing....   why wait? What good will come of it? Why prolong the agony of the fans and team. Everyone knows Reid is a deadman walking.

The hell are you talking about? We're not going to hire a replacement coach until after the season, so what's the point of firing Andy now?

Firing the head coach in the middle of the season is going to make a crappy situation even crappier. Even if it is a lame duck head coach.

[pgcd3]

I'd think Lurie might let Reid out his misery that will be the remainder of '12 but the rebuilding starts in January regardless

[NOTW]

Lurie said he will not make any decisions until after the season.  Why would you expect different?

Most new coaches hired are coordinators, not retired head coaches.

Let go of the popular names of old retread coaches.  The overwhelming majority of coaches who have actually won Superbowls have been first time head coaches who were coordinators or position coaches, who won a SB within their first 5 years as a head coach.

Payton is one that I wouldn't mind as much but in reality he will stay with the Saints.

If Reid is fired, Lurie will do what he did after he fired Kotite and after he fired Rhodes:  network around the league and interview up and coming coordinators and pick one he feels will be the best leader.

[Bear Grylls]

IDIOT!

[NJWolverEagle11]

i don't expect reid to be let go before season's end.  and with all the injuries on the o line you almost feel sorry for him until you realize he brought most of this upon himself going back to the Juan move to DC.  washburn on the other hand i would have left in new orleans

[AceofSpades]

And keep in mind, Lurie's not the type of guy who'd make the in season coaching change.

[The_Talon]

AceofSpades, on 06 November 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

That's not true. Just because they can begin the process of finding a new head coach as soon as the job opens up, that doesn't mean interested candidates will take the job right away. People need to get over the names like Gruden & crew. Outside of 2002, what did Gruden really do as a head coach? Tampa got worse after they won the Super Bowl. Technically the Eagles wouldn't be able to talk to Payton as he's still under contract with the Saints. Parcells? Seriously? Do I even need to address this one? And the only way Dungy comes back is for a front office position. He's done coaching. People need to get over the names & start doing some real research on coaches and on the Eagles for that matter. The Eagles have NEVER hired a former NFL head coach to take over the franchise.

he took a subpar Oakland team and turned them into contenders. Some would even argue that he got robbed in a certain playoff game against the Patriots.

[NOTW]

They would have to just promote Marty.  Ugh.  No thanks.

[AceofSpades]

The_Talon, on 06 November 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

he took a subpar Oakland team and turned them into contenders. Some would even argue that he got robbed in a certain playoff game against the Patriots.

Going a little off topic, but remember the days when a fumble was a fumble? Now it's all about (for lack of a better term) knit picking to find out what might've happened to say it wasn't a fumble.

[NOTW]

Go Sixers!

[NickyEyes]

reid deserves to at least finish the year. plus, who the F wants marty as the interim anyway.

[Invictus Maneo]

The only way I maintain any respect for Andy Reid as a coach is if he takes that trainwreck of a quarterback out from behind center and puts somebody else in. At this point, I don't care if its Nick Foles or Trent Edwards. Vick is one of the biggest problems that he still refuses to address.

[EccentricGreen]

AceofSpades, on 06 November 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

That's not true. Just because they can begin the process of finding a new head coach as soon as the job opens up, that doesn't mean interested candidates will take the job right away. People need to get over the names like Gruden & crew. Outside of 2002, what did Gruden really do as a head coach? Tampa got worse after they won the Super Bowl. Technically the Eagles wouldn't be able to talk to Payton as he's still under contract with the Saints. Parcells? Seriously? Do I even need to address this one? And the only way Dungy comes back is for a front office position. He's done coaching. People need to get over the names & start doing some real research on coaches and on the Eagles for that matter. The Eagles have NEVER hired a former NFL head coach to take over the franchise.

Gruden is known for taken talented teams over the hump.  Gruden's issues in TB was he made too many indecisions figuring out who his starting QB was.  He did fine in Oakland, it was the Owner that was impeding the process.

[JoePhila]

Lloyd, on 06 November 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

The hell are you talking about? We're not going to hire a replacement coach until after the season, so what's the point of firing Andy now?

Firing the head coach in the middle of the season is going to make a crappy situation even crappier. Even if it is a lame duck head coach.

yeah just let Andy lose out and get a better draft pick

[Ipspots]

Point is if Reid is not let go before end of season.... only way any young players play (in order to find out what we have for next year/ new regime) is by injury..

This in itself sets you back in evaluations... which then means you are behind during the draft and free agency... and you dont really know what you have in the young guys...

THATS THE POINT!  WHY WAIT. GET A JUMP on the OFFSEASON NOW!  I guarantee you thats what the DEADSKINS are doing.... (not that it will help Snyder) but the concept is real.

A new regime will want real game day tape before making evaluations on the young players... Foles et al wont get that if Reid remains coach till end of season.

[LacesOut]

I want AR here til the end of the season!! I'm not letting him off the hook now!

He's the captain of this sinking ship, so I want him on it, steering it, leading it, as it plunges to the depths of the NFL ocean.  He needs to drown in a miserable season, just like the players, the fans, the front office, etc..

[alasi]

The_Talon, on 06 November 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

he took a subpar Oakland team and turned them into contenders. Some would even argue that he got robbed in a certain playoff game against the Patriots.

Actually, Gruden has a history of regressing the more he stays with a team.

[alasi]

I think it is a waste of time to fire fatboy. He's gone  at year's end and anyone you put in is not going to change the players attitude, because most of the ones that need to change were hired guns, so they're out of here, as well.

I don't want any retreads. Get an up and coming co-ordinator or a good college coach not named Saban.

[Rodney_Zero]

EccentricGreen, on 06 November 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Gruden is known for taken talented teams over the hump.  Gruden's issues in TB was he made too many indecisions figuring out who his starting QB was.  He did fine in Oakland, it was the Owner that was impeding the process.

Both Oakland and Tampa went downhill after the 02 season, Gruden's drafts in Tampa where horrid too

[L.E.]

NickyEyes, on 06 November 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

reid deserves to at least finish the year. plus, who the F wants marty as the interim anyway.

Exactly. We've stuck with the guy's BS for 14 years, what's another few months?

[NOTW]

Where were all of you last year?  We wanted him fired at the end of last season (some after 2009, and some after 2006) and people defended him, made excuses, bought the fool's gold.  The realists knew that nothing was really going to change.  He did get Ryans and Kendricks and they had a pretty good draft but that doesn't make up for his coaching.

Reid has been living off his early run for the last 8 years.  It was over in 2004 but they keep selling us fool's gold.  It's over.

[BillTheButcher]

dude their not going to fire him now, even if they play worse next week they wont fire him... after the season.

if eli manning gets hurt we are right back in the driving seat for this divison.

[dilluminati]

Ipspots, on 06 November 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

tells me we are not interested in starting the rebuild process now. That we will waste more time and possibly lose out on possible candidate recruiting....

Also will be wasted any possible looking at young players to see what we have on the roster.. yes such as Foles...

sad,,, just sad.  Since last year Reid should have been gone, we have wasted this much time. Lurie looks to be wasting yet more time.

I really hate procrastination such as this... shows a weakness in GM's and CEO's   the time to be aggressive is NOW! Not when 6 other teams are looking at new regimes.... NOW is the time to talk with names like Grudog, Payton, Cowher, Dungy, Parcells etc.. and many more. Now is the time to start wooing....   why wait? What good will come of it? Why prolong the agony of the fans and team. Everyone knows Reid is a deadman walking.

I posted the same question and received the same stupid answers, the same trolls that have been advocating firing Reid for years now want to do it "after" the season, these are the same people who of course state: that AR needs to be fired because we will not win this season.  I don't know I guess I'm sort of the thought that if you are going to make a change and the direction things are going are wrong that you don't delay the change, and really I'm interested in what the Plan-B is.

[vsptroops]

Rodney_Zero, on 07 November 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

Both Oakland and Tampa went downhill after the 02 season, Gruden's drafts in Tampa where horrid too

i agree but wonder how it would work out if he was paired with a strong GM (yes, buh bye howie). so let the gm pick the players and let gruden just concentrate on coaching. not sure if he would go for it or not. if he would go for that, i wouldnt mind him here but if he wants total control, no thanks.

[Dweedlebug]

I won't be surprised at all if Lurie gives Reid another year after all this O-line nonsense.  He'll tell us it simply wasn't fair to drop Andy in this situation.

Watch and see...

[AceofSpades]

vsptroops, on 07 November 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

i agree but wonder how it would work out if he was paired with a strong GM (yes, buh bye howie). so let the gm pick the players and let gruden just concentrate on coaching. not sure if he would go for it or not. if he would go for that, i wouldnt mind him here but if he wants total control, no thanks.

Gruden's gonna want front office influence. Basically he'd want to have a role that Shanahan has with the Redskins & Reid has here. The Eagles would be better served not to go with a situation like that mainly because that doesn't work in the NFL anymore. Also I'd prefer the Eagles go for somebody who's the up and coming assistant coach instead of a retread.

[Shore_Eagle_Fan]

JoePhila, on 06 November 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

yeah just let Andy lose out and get a better draft pick

Andy Reid and Demtress Bell are our best catalyst for a high draft pick

[JoePhila]

NOTW, on 07 November 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

Where were all of you last year?  We wanted him fired at the end of last season (some after 2009, and some after 2006) and people defended him, made excuses, bought the fool's gold.  The realists knew that nothing was really going to change.  He did get Ryans and Kendricks and they had a pretty good draft but that doesn't make up for his coaching.

Reid has been living off his early run for the last 8 years.  It was over in 2004 but they keep selling us fool's gold.  It's over.

My opinion hasn't changed in 6 years