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#1 robnail

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 03:52 PM

Is having the last laugh. Now we do not know if he lobbied for the DC job which in itself was a stupid move made by Reid but to see this defense get worse must be funny to him no matter what he says publicly. Reid, tried to blame him and let him go in the end but has kept Mudd and Washburn whose systems have turned into abject failures. Now it is simply one failure after one by Reid making a bad situation even worse. Marty is clueless as a OC yet here he is spinning his wheels.

Lurie has made a bigger mistake by extending Howie Roseman who is a numbers man and not a football man. He should not be allowed near any player evaluation or draft. Time will tell what the future is to be but as of now, this season is over because without winning the battle in the trenches no team in the NFL can win. Our DB's are a mess, our DL system and Cole and Babin are useless. Our LB's still are horrible. What we all feel about our OL is well documented.

A lot of us on here abused Juan Castillo but the OL has been a mess since he became the DC. My heart now goes out to the man as he faced it all gamely and like a pro. I hope he lands on his feet soon.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 10:50 PM

The move to DC was to prep him for an HC job.  Most teams wanna see coordinator on the resume if they're interviewing for an HC.  He's a wonderful coach and I'm sure he'll do fine.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 10:56 PM

Rumors have it that Gruden was putting out feelers to potential staff in case he decides to become a coach again. Juan was rumored to be one of the potential staff members he inquired about.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 11:11 PM

Juan was not the right choice for DC.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 11:51 PM

View Postrobnail, on 10 November 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:



Lurie has made a bigger mistake by extending Howie Roseman who is a numbers man and not a football man. He should not be allowed near any player evaluation or draft.
So you are ripping him because he's not qualified but what makes you qualified to make that call? Plus how do you know what Howie does and does not do with the team?

I think it would be hilarious if Gruden comes back with Juan because that will be the third straight HC that Juan has coached with in Philly.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:05 AM

I saw  Coach Castillo today at the Hawkeyes game. I wanted to tell him what a rotten thing it was Reid did to him and that I'm sure he be coaching somewhere again next year. Thought better of it since he was with his son who had just lost a close game and whose team is having the same kind of year as the Eagles.

Thought it was typical Juan as he walked away from the stadium with his arm around his son as he gave him a hug and a kiss on his head.

Juan is a great human being regardless of what people mightthink of his coaching abilities

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:07 AM

I think Juan is a good football coach, just wasn't the right fit at the right time for this team at that particular position..  That's really what it comes down to.  Bowles obviously isn't, either.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:26 AM

Juan was better than Bowles.

Not sure why people think Washburn and Mudd are bad coaches or that their schemes don't work period end of sentence.  Both have YEARS and YEARS of success in this league.  Even here the idea that Mudd's scheme doesn't work is a failure of logic.  Kelce turned into one of the better centers in the league last year as a rookie under his watch and its obvious how much we miss him.  Peters while always a very good LT (despite TATE's contention otherwise BTW) reached his full potential last year under Mudd and became probably the unquestioned best LT in the game.  Heck Mathis was a neverwas until he came here last year.  Heck McCoy had his break out year partially thanks to Mudd's scheme.  The problem last year was 1) the short off season so the line took awhile to come together 2) Vick.  This year the problems are 1) injuries across the f'ing board and 2) Vick.  A QB with better blitz recognition (he's been better recently but not consistent) who throws the ball faster and has better pocket awareness/the ability to move WITHIN the pocket and we don't have these discussions.

Not sure WTF is wrong with the D-line this year but Washburn's resume does speak for itself.  He and his lines have been parts of defense that ranked at the top of the league in every category while with the Titans.  So its not like he's this huge liability that some make him out to be.  IDK if its the rotation, insisting on letting Babin get on the field, something wrong with Cole, something they've done to change the defensive scheme, the fact that the offense can't give them a lead to play with, or what but this myth that Washburn and his scheme don't work is BS.

Obviously things haven't be good these last 2 years but to act like they didn't do anything before coming here just shows a lack of knowledge.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:39 AM

View Postronlandis, on 10 November 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:

The move to DC was to prep him for an HC job.  Most teams wanna see coordinator on the resume if they're interviewing for an HC.  He's a wonderful coach and I'm sure he'll do fine.

so then would you say it made more sense for him to be a defensive coordinator or an offensive coordinator? Personally, I think it would have made more sense to have promoted Jauron to DC (if he wanted it) and then move Castillo to OC. The challenge with doing that was our offense came off a blockbuster year so firing Marty at that point would have seemed insane.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:56 AM

View PostThe_Talon, on 11 November 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

so then would you say it made more sense for him to be a defensive coordinator or an offensive coordinator? Personally, I think it would have made more sense to have promoted Jauron to DC (if he wanted it) and then move Castillo to OC. The challenge with doing that was our offense came off a blockbuster year so firing Marty at that point would have seemed insane.
Juan has said multple times that almost from the day he was given the OLine job that he lobbied to transition to defense - I don't imagine that he meant transitioning directly to DC but he did lobby to be moved to defense. And despite what TATE has to say Juan did a good job - the defenses stats speak to him being a success not a failure. But he did struggle with things that it would be expected he would struggle with - such as in game adjustments. I think the understanding of such things is developed over at least a few years as a D Assistant or position coach - BTW Harbaugh went from STCoach to DBacks coach to HC - AR went from QB coach to HC. Coordinator experience is not required.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 04:18 AM

I suspect that Juan is laughing without an idea why.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:41 AM

View Postgibsonplyer, on 11 November 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

Juan was better than Bowles.

Tallest midget.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:28 AM

Just read juan castillio is being linked to jon grudens coaching staff he is putting together and it has the cowboys and eagles as potential places were he could coach. It says he wants to go to a big market team with at least some talent already on the roster.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:31 AM

Juan was terrible. Andy Reid in his infinite wisdom gave Todd Bowles who had never been DC before a week and half to prepare. Not even calling for practices the first week. Bowles also started off facing two if the top Os and QBs in the league. It was ridiculous. We do know Juan stunk last year and this year

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:32 AM

View Postrobnail, on 10 November 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:

in the end but has kept Mudd and Washburn whose systems have turned into abject failures.

I still don't understand why everyone is trashing Mudd. WTF is he supposed to do when all of his linemen get hurt? You can teach technique, but you can't teach talent.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:37 AM

Juan castillio is being linked to 1 of the peices in jon grudens coaching staff he is putting together.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:24 PM

Defense went from solid to pathetic in the week he was fired.  Smooth move ex-lax.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:27 PM

View PostLegendBird21, on 11 November 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Defense went from solid to pathetic in the week he was fired.  Smooth move ex-lax.

The defense had been getting worse. They were terrible in Castillo's last qtr versus the Lions. Obviously Bowles hasn't helped but it was a losing proposition however you sliced it

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:37 AM

View Postpgcd3, on 11 November 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

Juan was terrible. Andy Reid in his infinite wisdom gave Todd Bowles who had never been DC before a week and half to prepare. Not even calling for practices the first week. Bowles also started off facing two if the top Os and QBs in the league. It was ridiculous. We do know Juan stunk last year and this year
I don't know what you were watching but it wasn't the Eagles - Juan Castillo outcoached a lot of "real" DC's both last year and this year.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:16 AM

I don't know how anyone can flatly say Juan was a problem now.  Todd Bowles has performed in the same manner.  The players have performed in the same manner in a modified scheme.

He should get the last laugh.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:42 AM

Enough with the fing Gruden crap, Gruden sucks.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:09 AM

Juan doesn't need to laugh about anything.   He is one of the reasons the season is ruined.   And I'm still shocked that you all can't see it.

You all being down on Todd Bowles is laughable,   since he has taken over the defense,  he faced in his first two games at defensive coordinator two of the best offenses in the NFL.    And then last night at times they looked better than they have all year long.   I honestly saw some improvement and some effect on the defense,  unfortunately its to late.

I got tired of seeing week after week Juan's soft zone defense blow a lead again and again and again,  dating back to last year.

View PostE-A-G-L-E-S Eagles, on 12 November 2012 - 04:16 AM, said:

I don't know how anyone can flatly say Juan was a problem now. Todd Bowles has performed in the same manner.  The players have performed in the same manner in a modified scheme.

He should get the last laugh.

I can say it,  he was.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:11 AM

View PostIron_Eagle_04, on 12 November 2012 - 10:09 AM, said:

Juan doesn't need to laugh about anything.   He is one of the reasons the season is ruined.   And I'm still shocked that you all can't see it.

You all being down on Todd Bowles is laughable,   since he has taken over the defense,  he faced in his first two games at defensive coordinator two of the best offenses in the NFL. And then last night at times they looked better than they have all year long.   I honestly saw some improvement and some effect on the defense,  unfortunately its to late.

I got tired of seeing week after week Juan's soft zone defense blow a lead again and again and again,  dating back to last year.



I can say it,  he was.
Why do you post on here, I really want to know why

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:13 AM

Seriously people the Juandamentals of this defense are terrible. Blaming Bowles who's had about 10 practices and no offseason to fix them is laughable. Juan will never get a job as DC again. His hiring is one of the main reasons this team is where it is

View PostGT500, on 12 November 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

Why do you post on here, I really want to know why

Everything he said was true

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:13 AM

View PostGT500, on 12 November 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

Why do you post on here, I really want to know why

So I can point out what idiots people are being.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:15 AM

How so?

Ahh, man, you're still in love with mcnabb and you want to slob vick, you have no knowledge of football at all

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:15 AM

The lbs are not horrible.  DeMeco Ryans and Mychal Kendricks are legit.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:16 AM

View PostRUEagle, on 11 November 2012 - 12:07 AM, said:

I think Juan is a good football coach, just wasn't the right fit at the right time for this team at that particular position..  That's really what it comes down to.  Bowles obviously isn't, either.

When a person fails in a certain position, much of the blame goes to the person who put them in that position.  Castillo wasn't ready and paid the price for it. However, castillo will get another coaching job for next season, no doubt.  But nobody will hire him for the defensive side of the ball.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:18 AM

View PostGT500, on 12 November 2012 - 10:15 AM, said:

How so?

Ahh, man, you're still in love with mcnabb and you want to slob vick, you have no knowledge of football at all

Actually,  I think Vick needs to be sat down permanently,   not so much because this season is all his fault it hasn't been,  but the season is basically over so the Eagles might as well see what they have in Foles.  He doesn't excite me all that much,  but he deserves a shot at least.   The Eagles have seven games left,  that should be enough to tell them what they got in Foles.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:08 PM

View PostIggleWalt, on 10 November 2012 - 11:51 PM, said:

So you are ripping him because he's not qualified but what makes you qualified to make that call? Plus how do you know what Howie does and does not do with the team?

I think it would be hilarious if Gruden comes back with Juan because that will be the third straight HC that Juan has coached with in Philly.


IMO, Juan is always welcomed here in Philly as the O-Line coach. Compared to what we have now Juan must have been a o-line genius! AND for the record Juan coached seasons with lots of injuries as well, so no excuses can be made for Mudd.




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