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[aman88]

Andrew Luck:
     Vs Chicago:   23/45 (51.1%) 309 yards, 1 TD and 3 Interceptions, Rating 52.9

Ryan Tannehill:
     Vs Houston:   20/36 (55.6%) 219 yards, 0 TD and 3 Interceptions, Rating 39.0

Brandon Weeden:
     Vs Philadelphia:   12/35 (34.3%) 118 yards, 0 TD and 4 Interceptions, Rating 5.1

Russell Wilson:
     Vs Arizona:   18/34 (52.9%) 153 yards, 1 TD and 1 Interceptions, Rating 62.5

Robert Griffin III:
     Vs New Orleans:   19/26 (73.1%) 320 yards, 2 TDs and 0 Interceptions, Rating 139.9

Nick Foles:
     Vs Dallas:   22/32 (68.8%) 219 yards, 1 TD and 1 Interception, Rating 85.3


Just for comparison.  Not bad considering unlike the other 5 he had: no practice with the 1st team offense, was thrust into a game 2/5 the way through, had not thrown a ball in a game (preseason) for 10 weeks, behind a bad o line, etc.

[purephillyfan]

Foles played darn well considering everything. Still hoping we get Matt Barkley.

[WR_please]

I am so tired of using stats to evaluate how good a player is.  Maybe it was McNabb's stat padding over the years or Jason Babin's 18 sacks but I don't believe stats tell you everything about a player.  Is Foles' arm strength good enough?  From what we saw against Dallas, yes.  Does he have command of the huddle?  Yes.  Does he make adjustments at the LOS better than Vick?  Absolutely.  Does he have good pocket presence?  I'll go as far to say he has the 2nd best, maybe even the best, of the Reid era.  That's what I look at.

[Kolbfan4]

purephillyfan, on 12 November 2012 - 01:28 PM, said:

Foles played darn well considering everything. Still hoping we get Matt Barkley.

He's a bust. Even Barkley knows he's a bust.

No thanks.

[downundermike]

WR_please, on 12 November 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

I am so tired of using stats to evaluate how good a player is.  Maybe it was McNabb's stat padding over the years or Jason Babin's 18 sacks but I don't believe stats tell you everything about a player.  Is Foles' arm strength good enough?  From what we saw against Dallas, yes.  Does he have command of the huddle?  Yes.  Does he make adjustments at the LOS better than Vick?  Absolutely.  Does he have good pocket presence?  I'll go as far to say he has the 2nd best, maybe even the best, of the Reid era.  That's what I look at.

And sure he took some shots, but the O-Line looked better with him behind it.

[AmericanEagle77]

downundermike, on 12 November 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

And sure he took some shots, but the O-Line looked better with him behind it.

Hilariously better, actually.

[NEPAEAGLE2]

WR_please, on 12 November 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

I am so tired of using stats to evaluate how good a player is.  Maybe it was McNabb's stat padding over the years or Jason Babin's 18 sacks but I don't believe stats tell you everything about a player.  Is Foles' arm strength good enough?  From what we saw against Dallas, yes.  Does he have command of the huddle?  Yes.  Does he make adjustments at the LOS better than Vick?  Absolutely.  Does he have good pocket presence?  I'll go as far to say he has the 2nd best, maybe even the best, of the Reid era.  That's what I look at.

Agreed. And comparing to Kolb (recent other example), he moves around better (no happy feet) and has a much nicer release.

[jonnyeagles12]

Kolbfan4, on 12 November 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

He's a bust. Even Barkley knows he's a bust.

No thanks.

Oh just go away seriously. How can a player be a bust from one game. Are you Crazy?!

[ChimpKelly]

I've been waiting since yesterday for someone to start this thread!

[Kolbfan4]

jonnyeagles12, on 12 November 2012 - 02:02 PM, said:

Oh just go away seriously. How can a player be a bust from one game. Are you Crazy?!

What former USC QB has had success in the NFL? I'll wait.

[aman88]

I mean it appears as if he will get some good game time in the coming weeks.  If he finished the season (regardless of wins and losses) healthy with stats of this or better: 1750 yards passing, 62+ % completion, and  3-4 more Td's than interceptions I would feel confident that with a team built around him he could be good.

[xxeaglesfanxx]

The INT was also not his fault, it was a catchable ball that just went off Jacksons hands and up into the defenders hand.  He also would have had a few more completions had there not been some drops or WRs not going for the ball.

[mike030270]

To add fuel to the fire...Foles debut was better than Luck's...just sayin...

xxeaglesfanxx, on 12 November 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

The INT was also not his fault, it was a catchable ball that just went off Jacksons hands and up into the defenders hand.  He also would have had a few more completions had there not been some drops or WRs not going for the ball.

Didn't look like it to me. Look like he pulled a rookie move. Didn't look like a catchable ball at all, but that's ok because he's a rookie.

[downundermike]

xxeaglesfanxx, on 12 November 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

The INT was also not his fault, it was a catchable ball that just went off Jacksons hands and up into the defenders hand.  He also would have had a few more completions had there not been some drops or WRs not going for the ball.

or falling down coming out of their breaks.

[RastaPasta]

Foles still hasn't had his first start.

[Cappeeler]

RastaPasta, on 12 November 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

Foles still hasn't had his first start.

Was going to say the same thing.

[aspiritfall]

Kolbfan4, on 12 November 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

What former USC QB has had success in the NFL? I'll wait.

Im all for giving a rookie a fair shot but I agree no thanks on Barkley... Im not a fan of most USC players especially QBs... Let another team risk him with a high pick...

[aman88]

the throw was not great, but jackson batted it up.  if you cannot catch it knock it down or let it go past and hope there is not a defender there.  under no circumstance do you bat it up.

[downundermike]

aman88, on 12 November 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

the throw was not great, but jackson batted it up.  if you cannot catch it knock it down or let it go past and hope there is not a defender there.  under no circumstance do you bat it up.

Plus it hits one guy in the thigh and bounces perfectly to Carr.  Nice effort by Dunlap on getting him out of bounds on the run back to.

[SirReal]

purephillyfan, on 12 November 2012 - 01:28 PM, said:

Foles played darn well considering everything. Still hoping we get Matt Barkley.

Do not want. Barkley's the best of a very bad crop of QBs

[jonnyeagles12]

Kolbfan4, on 12 November 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

What former USC QB has had success in the NFL? I'll wait.

Was talking about Foles...

[InfiniteSeriesN]

AJ feeley put up better numbers his first two times at bat.