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[Machine]

Irony, is a sumamabish ain't it?  We run Donovan out of town and what the hell have we done since then? Nothing, that's what. We've actually only gotten worse.  Say what you will about Donovan, but we were much better with him, than without him.

[downundermike]

Machine, on 12 November 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

Irony, is a sumamabish ain't it?  We run Donovan out of town and what the hell have we done since then? Nothing, that's what. We've actually only gotten worse.  Say what you will about Donovan, but we were much better with him, than without him.

What had Donovan done since 2004......

[bobbywizdum]

downundermike, on 12 November 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

What had Donovan done since 2004......

taken us back to the nfc championship game in 08, an 11-5 record in 09, and was having a great year prior to injury in 06?

[downundermike]

bobbywizdum, on 12 November 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

taken us back to the nfc championship game in 08, an 11-5 record in 09, and was having a great year prior to injury in 06?

2004 was a superbowl loss.......anything short of getting back was a failure.

So once again, what did Donovan do after 2004.......

[maggsgsr1]

People are gonna start missing Vick too.. Watch and see

[Machine]

maggsgsr1, on 12 November 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

People are gonna start missing Vick too.. Watch and see

Not a chance.  It'd be pretty hard for a QB to come in and actually do worse than Vick.

So yeah, the bar's pretty low.

[TQC84]

In hindsight, both Reid and McNabb should have been out after the NFC Championship loss to Arizona in 2009. It was clear that they were not going to be able to get over the hump at that point. McNabb only stayed a year past his expiration however, whereas this is Reid's fourth. That's one of the reasons I really don't feel bad for Andy, he's had three times the amount of time a normal coach would to get it done.

[zenclaybourne]

Machine, on 12 November 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

Irony, is a sumamabish ain't it?  We run Donovan out of town and what the hell have we done since then? Nothing, that's what. We've actually only gotten worse.  Say what you will about Donovan, but we were much better with him, than without him.

You really should have known that you would. We were in final four five times in a decade with McNabb. While we never won it all, it was by far the best years this team has had in ages.

maggsgsr1, on 12 November 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

People are gonna start missing Vick too.. Watch and see

I doubt that. Vick has not accomplished anything here short of one playoff appearance where we lost. Even if we stink for a few years, Andy will be the one who is missed not Vick. A QB that can get the team to the playoffs once in three years isn't much to miss.

[FlyinBrian36-20]

Machine, on 12 November 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

Irony, is a sumamabish ain't it?  We run Donovan out of town and what the hell have we done since then? Nothing, that's what. We've actually only gotten worse.  Say what you will about Donovan, but we were much better with him, than without him.

The worms and the ankles of our receivers are better off.

[phil77]

FlyinBrian36-20, on 12 November 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

The worms and the ankles of our receivers are better off.

Too bad our win column isn't better off.

[L.E.]

Oh yeah, I certainly miss winning a handful more games a year just so the QB can puke and disappear in a playoff game every year while a lesser team steps over us to go win a championship.

[DAWKAMANIA06]

Machine, on 12 November 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

Irony, is a sumamabish ain't it?  We run Donovan out of town and what the hell have we done since then? Nothing, that's what. We've actually only gotten worse.  Say what you will about Donovan, but we were much better with him, than without him.

Yeah, those were some great years. As fans we were spoiled rotten with all the consecutive playoff appearances and nfc championships. But then there is the other side of the coin, which is all but one of those NFC championship games ended in crushing heartbreak.  And the one Superbowl ended in defeat too.  So when it all boils down, McNabb didn't win us a superbowl, and neither did all the other QBs over the last 50+ years. I will always remember those years as a fun ride..but never long for failure.  Which ultiamately was McNabbs career as an Eagle. Yeah he was exciting and did alot of great things..however, he got there but could NEVER win it all.  So instead of longing for what was, long for the day that the Eagles win the SUPERBOWL!!!!!

[Hoagie]

Yes, "spoiled rotten"... with a whopping 0 Super Bowls.

I hate when people say that.  At this point, I'd take what the Bucs did instead... win the Super Bowl and fall into obscurity for 10 years, rather than be competitive for a decade without winning the big one.  Because right now our franchise has a whopping ZERO Super Bowl championships.  Until that changes, I'll take whatever we need to just get 1.

[Gang Green Team]

Machine, on 12 November 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

Irony, is a sumamabish ain't it?  We run Donovan out of town and what the hell have we done since then? Nothing, that's what. We've actually only gotten worse.  Say what you will about Donovan, but we were much better with him, than without him.

The real irony will be that you want Reid gone and you will be saying the same thing when the eagles suck worse for the next 10 years.  God you taters know how to brighten my day.

[Machine]

Gang Green Team, on 12 November 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

The real irony will be that you want Reid gone and you will be saying the same thing when the eagles suck worse for the next 10 years.  God you taters know how to brighten my day.

lmao at me being a TATEr.

I will be glad when Reids gone because it's time for a change. It might not be for the better at first.

[DAWKAMANIA06]

Hoagie, on 12 November 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

Yes, "spoiled rotten"... with a whopping 0 Super Bowls.

I hate when people say that.  At this point, I'd take what the Bucs did instead... win the Super Bowl and fall into obscurity for 10 years, rather than be competitive for a decade without winning the big one.  Because right now our franchise has a whopping ZERO Super Bowl championships.  Until that changes, I'll take whatever we need to just get 1.

When I said spoiled rotten, I meant that every year we expected to make the playoffs and did.  You obviously didn't read my whole post.  I said that when it all boiled down his career was ultimately a failure because he couldn't win the superbowl.  So put him right there with Vick, Jaws, Garcia, Kolb, Cunningham, Detmer (both of them), Peete, Hoying, Brister, Mike and Jim Mcmahon, Ken O'Brien, Pat Ryan, Doug Pederson, Jeff Kemp, Norm Snead, Roman Gabriel, Sonny Jurgensen, and any other QB that was played for the Eagles since 1960.  They all FAILED!!

[hextall4prez]

downundermike, on 12 November 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

2004 was a superbowl loss.......anything short of getting back was a failure.

So once again, what did Donovan do after 2004.......

lol... welcome to the EMB where if you dont win the superbowl EVERY year you are a huge failure/bust.

[FlyinBrian36-20]

phil77, on 12 November 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

Too bad our win column isn't better off.

I agree but after 04 McNabb had no positive impact on that either.

[BIRDZEYEVIEW]

Hoagie, on 12 November 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

Yes, "spoiled rotten"... with a whopping 0 Super Bowls.

I hate when people say that.  At this point, I'd take what the Bucs did instead... win the Super Bowl and fall into obscurity for 10 years, rather than be competitive for a decade without winning the big one.  Because right now our franchise has a whopping ZERO Super Bowl championships.  Until that changes, I'll take whatever we need to just get 1.

So which one, sign your soul or turn your back as some have done as fans.

[The_Talon]

Machine, on 12 November 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

Irony, is a sumamabish ain't it?  We run Donovan out of town and what the hell have we done since then? Nothing, that's what. We've actually only gotten worse.  Say what you will about Donovan, but we were much better with him, than without him.

if you're talking about the '99-'04 McNabb days when we just a good WR away from a Super Bowl (and the acquisition of TO proved that's all we were) then I think it is safe to say we ALL miss those days.

[zenclaybourne]

FlyinBrian36-20, on 12 November 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

I agree but after 04 McNabb had no positive impact on that either.

36-26-1,  winning percentage of .579 and 2-2 in the playoffs. Without him starting the team has posted a 29-29 record with a 1-2 playoff record. Not sure why anyone feels the need to bash McNabb at this point.

[greenblood0118]

Machine, on 12 November 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

Irony, is a sumamabish ain't it?  We run Donovan out of town and what the hell have we done since then? Nothing, that's what. We've actually only gotten worse.  Say what you will about Donovan, but we were much better with him, than without him.

One more sorry arse McFlabb thread...there's a reason he's out of football people...nice try but no one freakin' cares about McNabb now.

[FlyinBrian36-20]

zenclaybourne, on 12 November 2012 - 11:37 PM, said:

36-26-1,  winning percentage of .579 and 2-2 in the playoffs. Without him starting the team has posted a 29-29 record with a 1-2 playoff record. Not sure why anyone feels the need to bash McNabb at this point.

I'm not bashing.
No SB, that's all.

[Machine]

greenblood0118, on 12 November 2012 - 11:57 PM, said:

One more sorry arse McFlabb thread...there's a reason he's out of football people...nice try but no one freakin' cares about McNabb now.

I'm not saying bring him back or anything.  Just thought we had greener pastures ahead. Turns out there was a bunch of dog poop in the yard we couldn't see from the other side of the fence.

[malice]

TQC84, on 12 November 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

In hindsight, both Reid and McNabb should have been out after the NFC Championship loss to Arizona in 2009. It was clear that they were not going to be able to get over the hump at that point. McNabb only stayed a year past his expiration however, whereas this is Reid's fourth. That's one of the reasons I really don't feel bad for Andy, he's had three times the amount of time a normal coach would to get it done.

i've been saying this since that loss. now we'll see if they actually find a guy who'sworse than reid is at this very moment

[eephraim]

I love how Denver got rid of Elway after his failed superbowl runs....

[DFC]

zenclaybourne, on 12 November 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

You really should have known that you would. We were in final four five times in a decade with McNabb. While we never won it all, it was by far the best years this team has had in ages.
I doubt that. Vick has not accomplished anything here short of one playoff appearance where we lost. Even if we stink for a few years, Andy will be the one who is missed not Vick. A QB that can get the team to the playoffs once in three years isn't much to miss.

Yet a head coach that can get the team to the playoffs once in three years is?

[InfiniteSeriesN]

you think that's bad, wait till you end up longing for andy.  

[DFC]

BTW, Donovan was a great QB for this team.  It's a shame Reid ruined him by not giving him receivers at first and trying to turn him into a pocket passer after that.

[Iron_Eagle_04]

I told you all you would.   I also laugh at the people who said he did nothing after 2004.   He still had two better seasons than anything we had the last three years.