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[Shocker54]

Monster a beast. He's projected as a top 5 pick.

pair him up with Cox and you can finally collapse pockets and help out Cole, Curry, Graham.

Babin will be gone thats why I didn't mention his name.

[EhsanT]

Lets see who we hire as a coach before we start pushing for certain players. If we hire a guy who runs a 3-4 scheme, Star is a great pickup...if we sign run a 4-3 scheme it gets more complicated...if it's a tampa-2 scheme like Chicago runs, Star is a horrible fit...if it's a scheme like Minnesota, then he'd be a better fit.

[Robbieb77]

He's a NT, and I think there is a good chance we switch to the 3-4. Although I haven't seen this guy play, I like Jenkins out of GA but he is only the 3rd ranked NT.

[philaphan018]

if we get a coach that implements a 3-4 then YES... either him or Jarvis Jones

[WaitingForSomeday]

Robbieb77, on 18 November 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

He's a NT, and I think there is a good chance we switch to the 3-4. Although I haven't seen this guy play, I like Jenkins out of GA but he is only the 3rd ranked NT.

This guy does alot more than eat space.  Very disruptive and could easily play in the 4-3.

Faces double teams constantly...  allowing F.Cox a free hand at UT.

Looking forward to a loss against CAR on Monday and getting ahead them in the draft order.

[Rodney_Zero]

Pare him with Cox and it's the best male porn star name ever

Star Cox

[GODALLAS]

You guys might just switch to a 34 scheme. The 43 lately hasnt been working as well. Take the best D's in the league Houston, 49ers both 34s. They Jets, Cowboys, i think the Pats are still a 34 and theyre doing well too, the Ravens. All of them as 34s. And theyre all at the top of the league. The only really good 43 is Chicago, and thats because they have like 3 HOFers on that D right now and some really good playmakers at CB and safety. And if your going to a 34, then Hankins would be the guy you want instead.

[GODALLAS]

Robbieb77, on 18 November 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

He's a NT, and I think there is a good chance we switch to the 3-4. Although I haven't seen this guy play, I like Jenkins out of GA but he is only the 3rd ranked NT.

John Jenkins is a really good player. Not the player that Hankins or Star are for sure, but he could be a mean player for some 34 team out there. This is a great NT draft, so if you guys switch to a 34, i think going NT would help you guys with priority and value, which Star and Hankins both are. Definitly guys that would maek the most sense for a taem switching schemes. Take a LB in the 2nd. Move Kendricks inside, put Brandon Graham at OLB and you have teh making of a good front 7.

[WR_please]

He's the only guy I've seen in a few drafts that truly jumps out at you, probably since A.J. Green.  When this guy is on the field, you know he's simply better than anyone the other team is going to put in front of him.  If he doesn't go in the top 2, I'd be shocked.

[Innocence096]

I think people are foolish if they think Star is strictly a nose tackle. He will be a difference maker no matter what system he plays in

[GODALLAS]

Innocence096, on 22 November 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

I think people are foolish if they think Star is strictly a nose tackle. He will be a difference maker no matter what system he plays in

Absolutly, but depending on the system, you could have a solid player, or a HOFer. He has the talent, its how the talent is used. And NT is where he is best fitted.

[eagles234]

I think I'm warming up to the idea of the eagles drafting this guy

[Robbieb77]

https://www.youtube....h?v=co-NvKnZzvw
Looked like a beast against USC. Just needs to play a little lower and not overpursue on the run.

[eaglesfan38]

This is who I'm hoping the Eagles Target in the first. I think its time to put together a dominant defense in Philadelphia. If we drafted Stat in the first we could finally make the transition into a 3-4 attacking defense. Im thinking we could put Jenkins and Cox as our defensive ends and Star L. are our nose tackle. Then at linebacker we have two young undersized athletic defensive ends in Vinny Curry and Brandon Graham they would be perfect for Rush OLB. I know you guys are going to disapprove as far as moving Ryans back into a 3-4 scheme but put him next to Kendricks and lets see how they do with one another. As far as the secondary unfortunately I think were stuck with DRC and Namndi for another year but If feel like we could use either Trent Cole or Jason Babin as leverage to try and move back into the first to target either the good tackling Safety from Texas. I know this transition isn't going to be easy but I feel like this year is the best year to do it. We can cut ties and also gain some young talent by trading away two old veteran Defensive ends plus we can give Curry and Graham a chance to shine at doing what they do best and thats rushing the quarterback. What do you guys think?

[Robbieb77]

Agreed 100%, should also pick up some LB's late in the draft or FA to compete with what we have.

[PhillyEagleDude2]

If the Eagles are going to switch to a 34 they need to do it this off season.  The way the defense has looked this year it might just be that time also.  Blow the entire thing up this is a good nice draft to try to get a 34 in place I believe also.

[time2rock]

Robbieb77, on 18 November 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

He's a NT, and I think there is a good chance we switch to the 3-4. Although I haven't seen this guy play, I like Jenkins out of GA but he is only the 3rd ranked NT.

How can anyone possible state this without knowing who the HC will be ??

Rodney_Zero, on 19 November 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

Pare him with Cox and it's the best male porn star name ever

Star Cox

[NocturnalPoisoning]

He looks damn good.He could work in either the 34 or a 43 scheme that requires a bigger NT.

[GODALLAS]

Star is a stud, but he would be better served as a NT. Theres a few in this draft and 34 teams are going to go after these guys. Peronsally, i like Johnathan Hankins a little better, but Star will be a stud as well. Theyre going to go early though. Good NT's are hard to come by in this NFL and theyre the difference between a stud 34D or much lesser one. Hoping Dallas picks up 1 of them and moves Ratliff to DE where he belongs.

[birdguy]

pretty sure this guy could dominate in any system.  think haynesworth without the headaches ....

[GODALLAS]

birdguy, on 28 November 2012 - 12:45 PM, said:

pretty sure this guy could dominate in any system.  think haynesworth without the headaches ....

Do u know why some players are busts that are taken in the 1st? Besides the occasional reach and off field issues, most players that are busts is because they dont play the right system. These guy are all great atheletes if theyve made it this far. Jason Witten has very limited atheleticism. But he is in a system that makes him look great. It doesnt hurt that he is an extremly smart and hark working player, but system counts for a lot. Pittsburgh is great on Defense because they know their scheme and know the players needed to make the system work. They go out and get the guys they need to fit their system. Lebeau is a defensive genious too and knows what he needs.

If Star is in the right system, he has HOF talent. Most 1st rounders do. If hes in the right system that his strenghs and weaknesses are, he can dominate, but if he is in a system that calls for otehr duties that maybe he isnt physically the perfect fit for, it can cause him issues and to be not as good.

[kitko60]

I'm not a fan of a switch to a 3-4 unless you take Jarvis Jones.  That gives us a dynamic pass rusher.  Would Graham, Cole, Curry or Hunt be able to play 3-4 OLB?  I don't know.  I believe Cox and Jenkins could be great 3-4 DE.  We'd need a NT.

LE- Jenkins NT- Not on roster(currently Patterson) RE- Fletcher Cox
LOLB- Graham or Cole MLB- Ryans & Kendricks ROLB- Jarvis Jones
I like that a lot actually.  You find a NT and you're working with something but remember you need depth.  You can't count on the starters playing all game, all year.  We need backups that fit these roles.  Cedric Thorton could backup DE and possibly could replace Jenkins at LE, Cox and Thorton can rush the passer in that 3-4.  You just paid Trent Cole so you have to figure if he works in a 3-4 or not.

[rstarter]

Drafting OL seems to be the consensus but the more I look at this guy, man he looks better than Suh coming out of Nebraska. I say choose BPA and draft Star. Besides, with Patterson getting older and Cox being the only player projected to be here long term it's a move that makes sense.

[douglas8888]

He is the pick.  Anyone questioning that watch his tape against BYU and USC on youtube.  Unstoppable at times, disruptive all the time.

[D-Shiznit]

If we don't trade back (Which I think we should), this is the guy we need to target, him and Cox will be unstoppable.

[Footballman175]

Theres too many top picks i like in this draft....in order i would go:

Milliner
Te'o
Joeckel
Star
Smith

[douglas8888]

Footballman175, on 03 December 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

Theres too many top picks i like in this draft....in order i would go:

Milliner
Te'o
Joeckel
Star
Smith

No way I would have Te'O or Milliner ahead of Star.  Joeckel on par with him.  Can't draft based on need.  BPA always.

[Footballman175]

douglas8888, on 03 December 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

No way I would have Te'O or Milliner ahead of Star.  Joeckel on par with him.  Can't draft based on need.  BPA always.

Our CB's are bunch of poosays, and our defense lacks tackling...Te'o and Milliner are there for that

[jlittziggy]

This guy i think is the only legitmate player the eagles can take in the top 5.  I dont want any part of the 3-4 olbers or any other lb.  LInebacker is simply not a top 5 draft pick anymore unless its an edge passrusher.


it sucks that the year we are in the top 5 picks, the draft sucks.

[douglas8888]

Footballman175, on 03 December 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

Our CB's are bunch of poosays, and our defense lacks tackling...Te'o and Milliner are there for that

I get what your saying I just believe Joeckel and Star are better players and are positions of more importance and higher value.