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#121 shehateme

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:05 PM

View PostWorlds Away, on 15 November 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:


I don't post topics to do it though, nor do I have hundreds of posts doing so.

I come on the board maybe once a week and it's always the same people circle jerking with each other talking about Vick saying the same thing.

Just wondering if you guys have hobbies other than rooting against your own starter from the beginning of the season that's all.
Have you been to any sausage fests lately?

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:56 PM

View Postshehateme, on 15 November 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

Have you been to any sausage fests lately?

This message board obviously.

Not sure if that was supposed to funny or what but you're at least in your 40s still making sausage fest jokes, must be the comic genius in your family.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:38 PM

View PostPhillyGreek, on 15 November 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

No matter how you flip it... an animal is an animal. A person no matter accident or intentional lends to a huger ripple of emotion and loss than any animal. The man that Stalworth killed had a family and children that will live years yearning for their father, who all he wanted to do was provide for them.

How you tree huggers value the life of an animal over a person is beyond me. If the world was on the brink those pets would become your next meal. Bank on it. (or are you people gonna sit there and tell me you would rather your children starve to death rather than BBQing fido.....?!??!?!)

To be honest, I would say that I value the lives of some animals over some humans.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:32 AM

View Postvox populi, on 15 November 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

To be honest, I would say that I value the lives of some animals over some humans.

I will never understand that line of thinking. I think I know where you're going with it, but to me a human life always trumps an animals.

Always.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:37 AM

View PostCMPunk, on 15 November 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:



Oh the irony of this statement.

Unlike yourself, I post about things other than how horrible Eagles fans are.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:10 PM

View Postphillyphan754, on 16 November 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

Unlike yourself, I post about things other than how horrible Eagles fans are.

You gotta admit, as a whole we're pretty Cowboy-esque.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:13 PM

View Posteephraim, on 16 November 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

You gotta admit, as a whole we're pretty Cowboy-esque.

You've ruined my entire day, thanks.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:19 PM

You know, I criticized those who were impressed with Foles but I have truly seen the error of my ways.  The following is the picture of pocket poise and efficient QBing.  THIS IS WHAT WE NEEDED ALL ALONG!  HAIL FOLES!


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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:21 PM

Wait, with Foles in, can we still blame McNabb?

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:53 PM

View Postbobbywizdum, on 15 November 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

its amazing he looked a ton better behind that line than vick did !!!

Vick was looking pretty good behind it too against the Cowboys.  Was 6-9 for 70 yards with 1 TD and 127.00 QB rating.  Hopefully the OL has turned a bit of a corner.  They will look better against the Deadskins though.  No Orakpo and the other guy rushing.  Kerrigan

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:58 PM

View Postdaftpunk, on 16 November 2012 - 01:53 PM, said:

Vick was looking pretty good behind it too against the Cowboys.  Was 6-9 for 70 yards with 1 TD and 127.00 QB rating.  Hopefully the OL has turned a bit of a corner.  They will look better against the Deadskins though.  No Orakpo and the other guy rushing.  Kerrigan

True. Vick was playing fine until the injury. The cowboys do suck though.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:54 PM

View Posteephraim, on 16 November 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

I will never understand that line of thinking. I think I know where you're going with it, but to me a human life always trumps an animals.

Always.

no one is arguing that Eephraim...but what often gets forgotten with Vick defenders is this:

motivation..if a guy is out driving, and ACCIDENTALLY hits and kills someone, does that make him evil? It's a question of history. Donte Stallworth had no prior history of abberant behavior..if he had been popped for DUI several times and then accidentallyhit someone, then there would be a case.

compare that to Mike who had a history of cruel and sadistic behavior, despite that it was animals, THAT'S NOT THE POINT. Cruelty towards helpless others (be it animals or humans) points to some disturbing trends and tendencies, and some serious anti-social tendencies.


Mike 'paid his dues' by serving prison time, but remember the prison time was not for animal torture,it was for gambling across state lines,  animal cruelty  was only considered a misdemeanor. To Mike's credit he has worked hard to make it a felony with his efforts through the humane society, and I applaud him for that, in fact I'm one of those guys that has been saying "Let him prove that he is rehabilitated."

And that is the key, remorse..simply doing prison time does not make one remorseful. Remorse is an internal concept that happens when the reality and scope of ones actions finally attains clarity, and I hope that Mike is remorseful for his actions. All evidence points to the fact that he may be....we won't know until his playing days are over if he has become an advocate for animal rights for selfish reasons (to save/protect his career) or for the right reasons (an effort to end injustice and cruelty).

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:30 PM

View Posteephraim, on 16 November 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

You gotta admit, as a whole we're pretty Cowboy-esque.

Yup.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:38 PM

View Posteephraim, on 16 November 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:



You gotta admit, as a whole we're pretty Cowboy-esque.

I'd say Eagles fans are just as bad, but in a completely different way. Cowboys fans are all a bunch of stupid redneck drunks

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:16 PM

View Postphillyphan754, on 16 November 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

I'd say Eagles fans are just as bad, but in a completely different way. Cowboys fans are all a bunch of stupid redneck drunks
Actually in my experience they tend to be drug addicts that know little about the sport and think the cheerleaders are hot.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:06 PM

View PostWorlds Away, on 15 November 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

This message board obviously.

Not sure if that was supposed to funny or what but you're at least in your 40s still making sausage fest jokes, must be the comic genius in your family.
Sort of like your profile picture?

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 03:04 PM

View Posteephraim, on 16 November 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

I will never understand that line of thinking. I think I know where you're going with it, but to me a human life always trumps an animals.

Always.

I think everyone would agree that there are a lot of truly despicable people on this planet. I never heard of a single despicable animal.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 08:49 PM

View Postvox populi, on 17 November 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

I think everyone would agree that there are a lot of truly despicable people on this planet. I never heard of a single despicable animal.

VOX!!! what's up dude!!!

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 01:15 AM

View Postshehateme, on 16 November 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

Sort of like your profile picture?

What is this myspace?

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 05:36 PM

View Postvox populi, on 17 November 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

I think everyone would agree that there are a lot of truly despicable people on this planet. I never heard of a single despicable animal.

Well yeah, considering we excuse everything an animal does as simply they are animals.  If you have a choice between being in a room with Mike Vick and a lion which would you choose?

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:16 PM

View Postvox populi, on 17 November 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

I think everyone would agree that there are a lot of truly despicable people on this planet. I never heard of a single despicable animal.

Agreed. But to value the life of an animal over a human regardless of what that human is, is just foreign to me.

Let's take Big ben for example. I have 2 daughters and would shoot that rapist in the face if he came near either one of them. But would I say give a dog CPR while big ben needed it too? Not a chance. But I know there are people in this vary thread that would.

It's just...unhealthy from a psychological perspective to be that attached to dogs.





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