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[DieHardPhan]

Reid is here for the remainder of the season.

http://www.nfl.com/n...-decisionmakers

[joegreen]

DieHardPhan, on 13 November 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Reid is here for the remainder of the season.

http://www.nfl.com/n...-decisionmakers

I read the article and I took a piss and cracked open another beer.  I have said that at various times in each of the last 12 NFL seasons as a diehard Eagles fan (whatever the f__ that is).  Each year I think it is  going to be different and each year it's the same f___g  thing.

Is it 'great insight' or intuitively obvious that Reid won't be fired until the end of the season?. Yeah, both.  It should be intuitively obvious that AR will be gone as soon as the season is over, That's a given. Andy is gone. Period. It's over. THE ONLY WAY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IS IF THE EAGLES GO TO THE SB... this year.
Andy is gone - toast - history.  I'm not putting the total blame on Andy's shoulders but, his removal from the demise will be a catalyst for a new beginning.  It has to happen.  Lurie has to clean house with the coaching staff ... and some of the front office too.  Howie?  Yeah, well ... why not.

Exorcism is painful and ugly ... but for the Eagles, it is a reality check that has to happen.

[forevereagles]

Anyone who thought Lurie would fire Andy mid season don't know  how Lurie operates. He's never fired any coach  (since owning the team) mid season. He certainly wouldn't do it to the winningest coach of this franchise. Especially one who has made him lots of money during those winning seasons.

As the artilce says, there are many variables that need to be taken into consideration when making that kind of move.
To the fans its the things we see. But to an owner it is much much more. Ramifications such a decision will have on the current players, and future players be it draft or F/A. Will players want to come here to play for a team that is starting over in rebuilding a new foundation and its reputation? That is likely to have a few down seasons before the chemistry and system are developed and matered. Not bloody likely.

Then is Marty any better at calling the plays than Andy or vise versa. No. they are two peas in a pod. Is there anyone else on the team that could act as interim coach? No! So whether fans like it or not. Lurie has no option but to keep Andy for the duration of the seaon.

[SNOORDA]

Not really. I wouldn't as an owner mind canning ar now. Who cares who coaches the rest of this season? Start evaluating who on this team is worthy of staying and let potential coached know the jobs open. Start planning the draft, FA, and next season right now. Us fans will support this action. The nfl not so much.

[Lloyd]

SNOORDA, on 13 November 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Not really. I wouldn't as an owner mind canning ar now. Who cares who coaches the rest of this season? Start evaluating who on this team is worthy of staying and let potential coached know the jobs open. Start planning the draft, FA, and next season right now. Us fans will support this action. The nfl not so much.

I think as an owner, you would would care.  If Reid had only been here for 2 or 3 years, and was stinking up the place, you cut drop him mid-season and slop through the rest of the year.  This dude has been here since 1999...this is his team. Every awful part of it.  And I don't think it benefits the players or the fans to have someone WORSE than Reid come in here and handle this slop.  We're not the Dolphins or Raiders...we don't do interim coaches.

In summary, it's Reid's mess. He has the best handle on it (scary, I know). Let him coach it.

[ronlandis]

If/when Lurie fires Andy it will be done with due deference to the fact that AR will leave behind the greatest legacy of Eagles coaching in the franchises history.

[axe_man_trotter]

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[biglou22]

SNOORDA, on 13 November 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Not really. I wouldn't as an owner mind canning ar now. Who cares who coaches the rest of this season? Start evaluating who on this team is worthy of staying and let potential coached know the jobs open. Start planning the draft, FA, and next season right now. Us fans will support this action. The nfl not so much.

Just taking a wild stab that you are NOT a business owner ???

And you can bet your life that if Lurie had even the slightest thought that Reids tenure could be coming to an end that he started gathering a list a long time ago.
I would bet my houses that Lurie has had a short list for at least a couple of years now that is constantly getting updated.
What,,, you people think Lurie just woke up after game 4 or 5 or 6 and said,,, hmmmm.
I think I might have to make a change, let me start looking into this.

Good businessmen ALWAYS look a head. And Lurie is a good businessman.

[SoCalSuperEagle]

If Reid does get to stay for the remainder of the season, then he must be given a shower of boos each and every time he steps on or off the field during each of our remaining home games.

[FlyinBrian36-20]

Id rather him stayed for the season anyway. Interim hc are pointless unless the hc ignores what the owner tells him or something...

[Kolbfan4]

OMG this is breaking news! (on February 6th, 2012)

[nottsfootballfan]

who cares?

[Vee]

Also remember this, all future candidates will care how AR was treated at the end.  Treat him like crap now, especially after all he really has done for the franchise and you alienate other potential candidates.

Lets just hope SNOORDA never starts up a business, it'd be a total waste of time and money.

[CMPunk]

SoCalSuperEagle, on 14 November 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

If Reid does get to stay for the remainder of the season, then he must be given a shower of boos each and every time he steps on or off the field during each of our remaining home games.

No. Most Eagles fans are smart enough to know what he meant to this franchise.

[E2k4]

I never thought he would be fired midseason anyway. I know we are not officially eliminated from the playoffs yet,if we lose this week, I'd say its a certainty that Reid WILL be fired.

[dmor]

DieHardPhan, on 13 November 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Reid is here for the remainder of the season.

http://www.nfl.com/n...-decisionmakers

No sh**t

[biglou22]

SoCalSuperEagle, on 14 November 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

If Reid does get to stay for the remainder of the season, then he must be given a shower of boos each and every time he steps on or off the field during each of our remaining home games.

That seems pretty mature. That should really matter in life.
Geez, I never thought about that. Great idea.

Makes perfect sense.
Lets boo the greatest coach the Eagles ever had (SB era) who has had more success by a mile then any coach the Eagles have ever had and who after years of embarrassment helped bring class back to the organization.
Yep, lets boo the hell out of him.
Lets boo him because of all the money he gives to charities.
Lets boo him for all the time and effort he has given to the community.
Lets throw crap at him to.
Let him know how bad of a person he is.
I say tar and feather him. Shackle his arse. That will teach him.

[pgcd3]

It would be nice if Reid were cheered in the final home game. He deserves that

[ChimpKelly]

Reid deserves to coach out the season. They can't just fire him midseason after 14 years of coaching.

[biglou22]

pgcd3, on 14 November 2012 - 09:29 PM, said:

It would be nice if Reid were cheered in the final home game. He deserves that

I keep saying it. But how the hell can there be so much hatred for a person that for the most part nobody knows simply because he didn't win enough games. I don't get it.

[LacesOut]

He deserves to stay.  He deserves to see how his final season plays out.  He's the Captain of this sinking ship, so he should sink right to the bottom with it.

[CMPunk]

biglou22, on 14 November 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:

I keep saying it. But how the hell can there be so much hatred for a person that for the most part nobody knows simply because he didn't win enough games. I don't get it.

I take it that you dont live in Philadelphia. Am I right?

[skipsharp]

He made this meal, let him eat it.
And what good would it do to make a change now? Marty?

[iluvdaeagles]

not breaking news

[Abracadabra]

There's only one reason Lurie won't fire AR now, this would be an admission that keeping him on at the beginning of the year was a mistake. Lurie would look bad.

So, we're left with a lame duck. We all get to watch a pitiful organization show it's loyalty to a pitiful coach in another pitiful season. But, we'll always have 2004 when they almost won it all.

The greatest coach in Eagles history to never win it all deserves to leave us with the same crap he found.

This is Philadelphia, we demand nothing less.

[dba042681]

biglou22, on 14 November 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

That seems pretty mature. That should really matter in life.
Geez, I never thought about that. Great idea.

Makes perfect sense.
Lets boo the greatest coach the Eagles ever had (SB era) who has had more success by a mile then any coach the Eagles have ever had and who after years of embarrassment helped bring class back to the organization.
Yep, lets boo the hell out of him.
Lets boo him because of all the money he gives to charities.
Lets boo him for all the time and  he has given to the community.
Lets throw crap at him to.
Let him know how bad of a person he is.
I say tar and feather him. Shackle his arse. That will teach him.

this is a sports franchise. The goal is to win championships. Fail repeatedly and show no inclination towards achieving the goal, and you must get the axe.

F what his personality is and what he's done off the field. you sound like an emotional teenage girl dealing with a bad breakup.

[Surraven]

What makes you guys think there is another coach lurie could bring in? One that isnt a shot in the dark? It could explain why he didnt fire him last year, or so far this year he might not have found anyone? Also when and if they do get a new hc you know hes going to want new coaches under him as well and certain players. In fact keep reid does nothing but benifit him as of now, if andy keeps up with the pace hes on he will be leaving the new hc with a high draft pick, if he turns it around somehow and makes it into the playoffs he will have a good enough reason to keep him if he doesnt find a suitable replacement.

[Surraven]

Look at how many coaches Lions, Chiefs, Bills and Browns have went through since 2000 and the horrible record that followed many of them. One other thing that pops out is Marty Mornhinweg was hc for lions with a 5 and 27 record, and hes our main offense play caller since 06?

[gibsonplyer]

Welcome to the land of common sense.  Most people knew this from the start.  The only reason why I'd fire a coach midseason was if there was an assistant on the team I wanted to see get a chance at running the team without having to commit to them completely.   There isn't any one on this team that fits that description.

[PopsG]

axe_man_trotter, on 14 November 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

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I could see it happening. does anyone here trust the defense, does anyone trust the offense to not make game changing mistakes
I sure as hell dont.