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#1 eagles4life

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:20 AM

The more I think about Reid's successor,  there are 2 names that I like. Chip Kelly and Josh McDaniels. I wanna talk about McDaniels for a minute. I know he failed his first go round but he has a very good offensive mind which is what I want in the next coach. Someone who is creative and has a ton of scoring plays.  His mentor (Ol' Bill) wasn't that good his first rodeo either and he turned out just fine.  I believe Josh was too immature back then and wasn't ready.  A few years have gone by and he is back under Bill.  I have a feeling when he gets a second chance at HC again he will be more mature  and much more improved. Team him up with Foles and Josh could groom him to be a helluva quarterback. Think about it. McDaniels could be a good fit for Philly. Let him focus on the offense and the new DC (whoever that will be) concentrate on the defense, Philly could set themselves up for a long run.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:26 AM

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:27 AM

I think of McDaniels as another Norv Turner. Great offensive mind but not a good leader and HC. I'd certainly take him as an OC (not that he'd leave NE for a lateral move) but not as HC.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:31 AM

Didn't he run Cutler out of town because he thought Cassel was a better QB?

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:35 AM

No.  He dismantled the Broncos and skipped town.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:37 AM

Keep in mind I said he was immature back then was definitely not ready.  He was given that HC job too soon in his career.  I look for him to be much better when he gets another shot.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:36 AM

Kinda like how the Patriots offense is better with him the second time around?

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:39 AM

No. We don't need a coach that allows cheating.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:44 AM

He drafted Tebow in the first round.

I mean I can forgive him for trading Cutler and Brandon Marshall, both of those guys clearly wanted out. I can forgive him for taking Knowson Moreno way earlier than he should have. I can forgive him for taking Demaryius Thomas over Dez Bryant (which at the time was a surprise, not a bad move now). But taking Tim f'ing Tebow in the first round? There's no way I want that guy coaching my team.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:56 AM

Joke thread? Mcdaniels has already proven that he's an awful head coach.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:08 AM

Why? so he can bring Tebow to philly :thumbsdown: He wouldnt last in philly he's a chump. If anyone deserves a 2nd chance as HC it's Mike Nolan.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:13 AM

I'd rather keep Reid at that point.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:13 AM

No thanks to either. Mcdaniels was a terrible HC. I'm all for giving others guy a second chance because historically that works but he was a train wreck. Also Kelly has never been on an NfL sideline. Do not want

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:24 AM

Let see what has ex pats head coaches been up to?Failing in the nfl.NO THANKS.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:11 AM

Let's see, he ran Cutler and Marshall out of town, drafted Tim Tebow IN THE FIRST ROUND, and then left.

I'll go with no.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:12 AM

no

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:19 AM

I do think Jeff and Howie will be more inclined to look for someone with a background in offense rather than defense as their next HC, but I doubt it will be JM.  A couple of names that I think will pop up as potential candidates as HC jobs become available are Rick Dennison and Dirk Koetter.  Wouldn't surprise me if one of them is the next HC here.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:22 AM

View PostCappeeler, on 14 November 2012 - 02:13 AM, said:

I'd rather keep Reid at that point.

Whoa, I wouldn't go that far.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:34 AM

View Posteagles4life, on 14 November 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

The more I think about Reid's successor,  there are 2 names that I like. Chip Kelly and Josh McDaniels. I wanna talk about McDaniels for a minute. I know he failed his first go round but he has a very good offensive mind which is what I want in the next coach. Someone who is creative and has a ton of scoring plays.  His mentor (Ol' Bill) wasn't that good his first rodeo either and he turned out just fine.  I believe Josh was too immature back then and wasn't ready.  A few years have gone by and he is back under Bill.  I have a feeling when he gets a second chance at HC again he will be more mature  and much more improved. Team him up with Foles and Josh could groom him to be a helluva quarterback. Think about it. McDaniels could be a good fit for Philly. Let him focus on the offense and the new DC (whoever that will be) concentrate on the defense, Philly could set themselves up for a long run.

McDaniels was a disaster as a head coach and is one of those guys who just belongs as a coordinator and nothing more. I want nothing to do with him.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:40 AM

NO!

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:52 AM

Oh hells to the NO!

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:53 AM

I could be wrong about this, but wasn't it McDaniels who traded Peyton Hillis for Brady Quinn too?

Edit: I'm not wrong about this.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:22 AM

View Posteagles4life, on 14 November 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

The more I think about Reid's successor,  there are 2 names that I like. Chip Kelly and Josh McDaniels. I wanna talk about McDaniels for a minute. I know he failed his first go round but he has a very good offensive mind which is what I want in the next coach. Someone who is creative and has a ton of scoring plays.  His mentor (Ol' Bill) wasn't that good his first rodeo either and he turned out just fine.  I believe Josh was too immature back then and wasn't ready.  A few years have gone by and he is back under Bill.  I have a feeling when he gets a second chance at HC again he will be more mature  and much more improved. Team him up with Foles and Josh could groom him to be a helluva quarterback. Think about it. McDaniels could be a good fit for Philly. Let him focus on the offense and the new DC (whoever that will be) concentrate on the defense, Philly could set themselves up for a long run.

No.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:37 AM

My reply is no

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:39 AM

Fishing?  or stupid?  Doesn't matter - NO!

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:40 AM

The Broncos are just getting back on track from the messes that he created.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:43 AM

Your logic would apply perfectly to MM. Think about it.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:07 AM

Tebow and Moreno and a video taping scandal.

McDaniels isn't even that good of an OC, getting most of his success from playing under Belichick, who calls the plays anyway.

No thanks.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:25 AM

I want a HC who will DEMAND toughness and fundamentals (ball security, tackling, etc.). No more finesse teams.  It is okay to have a few finesse players, but when your WHOLE team is finesse you have problems.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:37 AM

View PostEagleArcher20, on 14 November 2012 - 10:25 AM, said:

I want a HC who will DEMAND toughness and fundamentals (ball security, tackling, etc.). No more finesse teams.  It is okay to have a few finesse players, but when your WHOLE team is finesse you have problems.

This is what happens when you sacrifice size for speed. When all you care about is speed on both sides of the ball you get away from the smashmouth style and are geared more towards the finesse style of play. That's why the Eagles get pushed around on both sides of the ball at times. The fundamentals you mention are what this regime always claims to focus on but when it matters you don't see it. Position coaches need to handle that as well. The coordinators need to make sure their position coaches are doing their jobs. And the head coach needs to be on top of all of this.




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