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#1 jsb235

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:11 PM

Read an article somewhere that stated that, even before Vick got injured, Foles and Edwards were hanging around the practice facility studying film and preparing for the coming week. Vick was nowhere to be found.

Therefore, I think that starting Foles will have a positive impact on the rest of the team. After all, if Vick was unwilling to put in the extra hours, what message was that sending to the other guys on the team with a few less zeroes in their paycheck? Now with Foles playing, I am hoping his work ethic will send a message to the rest of the team, and perhaps the Eagles will stop playing such sloppy football.

Brady and Manning always had a reputation for putting in a lot of extra time to make their team better. I think this is somethig the Eagles had with McNabb, but lost with Vick. I have no idea why Reid didn't make him work harder, especially since it was his second chance, but I think the first half of the 2010 season made him think, if it ain't broke, why fix it? Well, it's broke, and hopefully Foles will be the start of putting the team back on the right track.

This season is lost, and it sucks having to wait until next September for the Eagles to play a meaningful game again. But I put the blame as much on the veteran leaders of the team as I do the coaches. Hopefully the change in administration will mean a new work ethic for this team which, based on the incredibly sloppy play it has exhibited the last two years, has been sorely lacking.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:18 PM

How about let's not do this?  Because I heard the opposite.  Let Folks play his game.  I don't think all of the other stuff is necessay.   Move on and support Foles like a fan is suppose to do.  He is the starter and no need to rally the troops.  I hope Foles does well. The other crap is not needed.   :meh:

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:21 PM

I was expecting one of the following:
  • 6'6"
  • accurate
  • white
  • gets rid of the ball quicker
  • doesn't fumble
  • has great hair


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:28 PM

View Posttime2rock, on 15 November 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

I was expecting one of the following:
  • 6'6"
  • accurate
  • white
  • gets rid of the ball quicker
  • doesn't fumble
  • has great hair

That hair...

#5 BozoJoe

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:30 PM

By all accounts, Vick's work ethic hasn't been an issue at all since he signed with the Eagles. He's been praised by essentially the entire organization for his dedication to film study and Reuben Frank called his work ethic "legendary around the NovaCare Complex" for the amount of time he spends there.

He's struggled these last two years because his in-pocket instincts aren't good enough, not because he didn't put in the time off the field.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:32 PM

View PostBozoJoe, on 15 November 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

By all accounts, Vick's work ethic hasn't been an issue at all since he signed with the Eagles. He's been praised by essentially the entire organization for his dedication to film study and Reuben Frank called his work ethic "legendary around the NovaCare Complex" for the amount of time he spends there.

He's struggled these last two years because his in-pocket instincts aren't good enough, not because he didn't put in the time off the field.


That's what i heard.  Now if we can stop the Vick Bashings and support the starting QB now.  The other crap is not necessary.  Afterall what good does it do?

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:34 PM

Clearly better hair than Brady or Manning.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:36 PM

He looks like a 70's pron star. So that's a good thing.

Plus his height will help trying to throw over 6'9 inch waste of space King Dung -Lap.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:57 PM

I don't believe the rumors about Vick's lack of participation in extra film study, I think Vick took full advantage of his second oppurtunity and I think he has studied plenty of film. With that being said I just don't think Vick has the ability to be great as a QB, let's face it Vick is basically a street baller with a rocket arm and once had very fast legs. When it comes to Vick being decisive pre-snap or while in the pocket, this is where he struggles bad. I don't fault Vick for trying but I just don't think he has the brains to be an NFL QB that you can trust to make the right decisions and throws.

Foles on the other hand already has great attributes that Vick didn't coming out of college, the biggest being 6' 5", allowing him to easily see over lineman. Being this tall also allows you to see everything sooner and deliver the ball faster without having a designed play to do so. Foles has some work to do and he is going to have his moments against the Skins but Foles has the potential to have a shot at being good if not great.

One thing that stood out to be like a soar thumb on Sunday was Foles walking around on the sideline giving "fives" to his lineman and offensive players. Seeing that at least gives you hope about him potenitally being good and gives us a better feeling as fans that he is going to give it 110% every practice and game.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:02 PM

View Postvic92353, on 15 November 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

How about let's not do this?  Because I heard the opposite.  Let Folks play his game.  I don't think all of the other stuff is necessay.   Move on and support Foles like a fan is suppose to do.  He is the starter and no need to rally the troops.  I hope Foles does well. The other crap is not needed.   :meh:

How about you shut up?

View Posttime2rock, on 15 November 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

I was expecting one of the following:
  • 6'6"
  • accurate
  • white
  • gets rid of the ball quicker
  • doesn't fumble
  • has great hair

Since Learn to Reid says we're all racist, I would say the 3rd bullet is the most promising of Nicks attributes.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:30 PM

He's not Vick.

That would have been my guess to your thread title prior to entering.

At a minimum,  the game will not be boring with the Vick Lovers looking for any and all mistakes to blast him in the forums during and after the game.  And all the anti-vick folks will be looking for any and all examples of Foles performing better in certain circumstances than Vick has.  

It will not be boring around here, that is for sure.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:34 PM

I agree best quality is he is not Vick

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:39 PM

His demeanor. It's only been three quarters of NFL action, but he just seems like a guy who will not be mentally shaken regardless of what happens. He has already been through a lot at Arizona, hell his Draft stock plummeted because of his poor OL in his senior season.

It's not that I think Vick sucks (which if you do or don't, there are cases to be made either way,) it's that I am excited for a new era. The Eagles haven't had a QB under 30 start 16 games since 2003. That's a long time, and if Foles can stay healthy and make his teammates better, I'm excited to see the future of this team.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:52 PM

I like the kid. Am I biased because Im a fan? Yes, obviously but at the same time I think he will be a good QB in this league. Im not gonna go so far as to say elite, but I like what Ive saw thus far.




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