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[bigdave2983]

Brian Westbrook.

What would Andy's overall win/loss record be? I think without Brian, even though we had Donovan(not the most accurate passer), would've been a lot worse. With the playcalling in general,pass pass pass, and the horrible WR's (pinkston, thrash, mitchell). Westbrook was the only player for a few YEARS that any defense cord. had to gameplan for

I' m not a huge Reid hater, I'm thankful for the wins, but I'm sure some of those "good" seasons wouldn't have been as good if not for Brian.



Ah well......

[LaxPlayerX3]

Definitely wouldn't have done as well. He carried this offense for years.

[FanSinceWayBack]

The year we went to the SB didnt he account for like 73% of our O?

[RPeeteRules]

Can we also assume that the Eagles would have drafted Larry Johnson or Willis McGahee in the following draft then?

[BDAWK_4EVER]

Lol Larry Johnson. What did he have, 2 or 3 ridiculous seasons before he fell of the map?

[RPeeteRules]

BDAWK_4EVER, on 15 November 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

Lol Larry Johnson. What did he have, 2 or 3 ridiculous seasons before he fell of the map?

I would have gladly taken that, if the Eagles didn't have Westbrook, over McDougle.

[H-field Hero]

What if, what if, what if.

[biglou22]

bigdave2983, on 15 November 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

Brian Westbrook.

What would Andy's overall win/loss record be? I think without Brian, even though we had Donovan(not the most accurate passer), would've been a lot worse. With the playcalling in general,pass pass pass, and the horrible WR's (pinkston, thrash, mitchell). Westbrook was the only player for a few YEARS that any defense cord. had to gameplan for

I' m not a huge Reid hater, I'm thankful for the wins, but I'm sure some of those "good" seasons wouldn't have been as good if not for Brian.



Ah well......

Hmmmm. I wonder what Belichicks record would have been if he didn't have Brady ??

[phonz3]

What if he drafted Akili Smith over McNabb or Ricky Williams?

[surefooted]

What ifs are stupid.  The player one becomes is directly related to the environment of the team that drafted them.  Would Mcnabb had been what he was had the Browns drafted him?

[nipples]

phonz3, on 16 November 2012 - 12:49 AM, said:

What if he drafted Akili Smith over McNabb or Ricky Williams?

I know you're going for the sarcasm here, but honestly who knows what would have happened if they had gone with Smith? If he had come to Philly maybe his career could have been salvaged rather than wasting away with the Bengals. I know immense talent can overcome poor situations, but it's possible that he could have turned out to be a decent QB if he had come to Philly, and perhaps McNabb would have been the one to completely fail in Cinci.

[ronlandis]

I'm not sure he would have made it past 4 years as the HC if he hadn't inherited the best secondary in franchise history.  Anybody remember the year when they made it to the NFCCG with those terrible WRs and Darnell Autry carrying a major portion of the load at HB.

[FanSinceWayBack]

What if Andy was a great coach?

[PSYCOSTEVE]

Think about this what if Reid never drafted McNabb what would his legacy be for the eagles ?? Considering that every Reid team has had some kind of gaping hole in every year the blame would be shifted to running back if we did not get Westy . But Big red does not like to run so who knows .

[biglou22]

PSYCOSTEVE, on 16 November 2012 - 07:56 AM, said:

Think about this what if Reid never drafted McNabb what would his legacy be for the eagles ?? Considering that every Reid team has had some kind of gaping hole in every year the blame would be shifted to running back if we did not get Westy . But Big red does not like to run so who knows .

Ahhhh, news flash.
100% OF EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL HAS AT LEAST 1 GAPING HOLE EVERY YEAR.
Most have many gaping holes.
The teams always getting to the playoffs have few holes and the teams never getting to the playoffs have many.
See how that works ????
And since Reid teams made it to the playoffs more then any team in the NFL since 2000 except 2, I would say he did a pretty good job of filling those holes.
But hey, lets not have FACTS get in the way.

It was a good story you had though.

[Esage]

ronlandis, on 16 November 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

I'm not sure he would have made it past 4 years as the HC if he hadn't inherited the best secondary in franchise history. Anybody remember the year when they made it to the NFCCG with those terrible WRs and Darnell Autry carrying a major portion of the load at HB.

No, because it never happened

[SilverChaosVII]

biglou22, on 16 November 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

Ahhhh, news flash.
100% OF EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL HAS AT LEAST 1 GAPING HOLE EVERY YEAR.
Most have many gaping holes.
The teams always getting to the playoffs have few holes and the teams never getting to the playoffs have many.
See how that works ????
And since Reid teams made it to the playoffs more then any team in the NFL since 2000 except 2, I would say he did a pretty good job of filling those holes.
But hey, lets not have FACTS get in the way.

It was a good story you had though.

No... 95% of teams have gaping holes in them.

Elite teams do not.

Where is the gaping hole for Houston, for example? I can't think of any.

What about San Francisco? You could argue Alex Smith, but he is a good player. Not amazing by any means, but not a gaping hole.

...

A gaping hole is something like Kurt Coleman, Demetress Bell, King Dunlap.

[xxeaglesfanxx]

So true, Westbrook was a beast for us.  He could run, catch out of the backfield, and block.  The complete package as far as a RB is concerned and yet he seemed very humble and was a hard nosed guy who wasn't afraid to take a hit.

[Eaglesfanforlife]

Ok, I'll play along.

Freddie Mitchell. What if he drafted Chad Johnson at #1 instead of FredEx? 5 would have had the WR he desperately needed in his early years. That to me was one of Reid's first EPIC fails. How they saw FredEx as a better talent over Chad Johnson I'll never know. But wait...they are the pro's...we dont know any better.

Or even Steve Smith (CAR). Couldve got him in the 2nd or 3rd that year.

[bobbywizdum]

so....considering we had already won two straight divisions and been to two staright nfc championship games before westbrook had even been drafted ...i don't see the logic to this thread. The two years westbrook carried the team (06 with garcia) and 07 were far from our greatest years. Was westbrook great? Absolutely when healthy. He was part of the three headed monster in 03 but missed the playoffs due to injury. He was good in 04 but that offense went through mcnabb and t.o. He was hurt in 05 along with everyone else. He was hurt most of 08 and 09 as well. When you break down westy's career he was a very productive player...when healthy.

[gibsonplyer]

SilverChaosVII, on 16 November 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

No... 95% of teams have gaping holes in them.

Elite teams do not.

Where is the gaping hole for Houston, for example? I can't think of any.

What about San Francisco? You could argue Alex Smith, but he is a good player. Not amazing by any means, but not a gaping hole.

...

A gaping hole is something like Kurt Coleman, Demetress Bell, King Dunlap.

I'm not going to fault them for not being able to pull a elite LT out of their a**.  Everyone pretty much agreed Bell was the best available option at the time.  Injuries happen and when they happen to easily on of the best players on your team and one of the best in the whole league you're pretty much F'd.

Now Coleman (even though safety play across the league is pretty bad), the KR/PR situation a few years back.  LBers for year and years, WR for years and years all qualify.  They weren't just cases of not having a pro-bowl player at that position it was usually a case of having someone who should never have been starting in the NFL there.

[RPeeteRules]

Eaglesfanforlife, on 16 November 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

Ok, I'll play along.

Freddie Mitchell. What if he drafted Chad Johnson at #1 instead of FredEx? 5 would have had the WR he desperately needed in his early years. That to me was one of Reid's first EPIC fails. How they saw FredEx as a better talent over Chad Johnson I'll never know. But wait...they are the pro's...we dont know any better.

Or even Steve Smith (CAR). Couldve got him in the 2nd or 3rd that year.

Probably the same way David Terrell, Korean Robinson, Rod Gardner, Santana Moss, and Quincy Morgan all went before Chad Johnson and Steve Smith.

[JonnyEagles69]

Too many What Ifs , maybe we could of had Eli  

[The_Talon]

surefooted, on 16 November 2012 - 12:53 AM, said:

What ifs are stupid.  The player one becomes is directly related to the environment of the team that drafted them.  Would Mcnabb had been what he was had the Browns drafted him?

nah, he probably would have been better

[iinvincible]

What if Andy Drafted Ricky williams, instead of DOnavan Mcnabb.  We would still be using doug peterson as quarterback lol.