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#61 pgcd3

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 08:15 AM

Cancer is harsh. Like I said its hard to judge Roseman but in the end the team has been bad under him. If you're starting over than start fresh completely.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 09:44 AM

Finding and hiring a REAL GM that will in the future, looking back at his time in Philadelphia, be considered by the entire NFL, as the very best of his era by far.........is job #1 for Jeffrey Lurie....everything else that happens comes from that one most important hire....everything. If Jeffrey Lurie compromises in any way regarding that task (such as Roseman being THAT guy), then failure will be the result.

All the rest of the conversations that take place, are just killing time until Jeffrey either does this right....or doesn't. I hope he does this right.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 10:00 AM

View PostPoconoDon, on 17 November 2012 - 09:44 AM, said:

Finding and hiring a REAL GM that will in the future, looking back at his time in Philadelphia, be considered by the entire NFL, as the very best of his era by far.........is job #1 for Jeffrey Lurie....everything else that happens comes from that one most important hire....everything. If Jeffrey Lurie compromises in any way regarding that task (such as Roseman being THAT guy), then failure will be the result.

All the rest of the conversations that take place, are just killing time until Jeffrey either does this right....or doesn't. I hope he does this right.

A little dramatic, but absolutely correct.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 10:07 AM

View Postskipsharp, on 17 November 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

A little dramatic, but absolutely correct.

Granted......but the sentiment is simply to set the bar at perfection, because by pursuing that, they may capture excellence in the process. I just think there's been a culture of compromise with the Eagles that is unacceptable, and the bar has to be raised as high as it can go in every area starting with the traditional GM position, which IMO, is the most important one.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 10:22 AM

View PostPoconoDon, on 17 November 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

Granted......but the sentiment is simply to set the bar at perfection, because by pursuing that, they may capture excellence in the process. I just think there's been a culture of compromise with the Eagles that is unacceptable, and the bar has to be raised as high as it can go in every area starting with the traditional GM position, which IMO, is the most important one.

Agreed. When Lurie first took over that was his model. But it seemed Modrak got squeezed between the egos of Reid and Banner. With them gone it can work.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 10:30 AM

View Postpgcd3, on 16 November 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

We are actually at the point where the team can't get much worse but the point is to make moves to make it much better :)
True.  Hoping Howie can perform adequately in talent evaluation is right up there with hoping Juan could make the transition to coaching defense.  Best to be safe there and have someone with experience handling that responsibility to increase the likelihood of success.

View Postdmor, on 16 November 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:

Howie is a valuable asset to the organization when it comes to contracts.  The team will be at a loss if he is fired.  Take him away from the personnel decision making side of the office, and your problem is solved.
Yes, exactly.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 05:47 PM

View PostMcNabb2Jackson7, on 17 November 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:

What if the Eagles get Chip Kelly and Matt Barkley? Maybe things can turn around faster than you think.
Ill pass on both. Have you not saw enough of the spread offense under AR for the last 14 years? Id say AR could do Chips job in a weak conference before Chip could do AR's job. I saw AR's job, not particularly THIS or LAST year, but just in general. As for Matt Barkley? I think he is overrated. He has THE best WR in Woods in the country and his other WR is probably a top 10-25 WR in the country. They are X-2, and there losing at the moment.

Carson Palmer
Matt Sanchez
Matt Leinart

Carson was decent at 1 point in his career, but I still think Id pass on Barkley. Them like Oregon (Kelly) are in a weak conference.

Just my .02 though




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