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[Regal]

http://profootballta...n-but-he-didnt/

He may not have let the team down, but Vick definitely has let the fans down this year. For all his film watching and training in the off-season, Vick still makes dumb mistakes and cannot read a D to save his life. Face it peeps, Vick sucks!


P.S. Yes, OP has started another negative Vick thread. Deal with it.

[ChimpKelly]

The whole team let the fans down. It isn't Vick's fault the defense sucks so bad.

[greenpassion]

i have been done with this team since 07 i knew then we werent going anywhere with reid

mike vick pulled me back in in '10 and imo he did about as well as he could with these crappy coaches and their play calling

ide like to see him finish up his career in maybe buffalo or any team that will run the ball and just let him manage the game, hes not brady or manning and not cut out to be throwing the ball 40-50 times a game but that doesnt mean he cant be successful throwing 20-25 times on a good coached team

i'll always be a fan i admire how he picked himself up after the mistakes and he atleast played his heart out for philly

thanx mike!!!

[CMPunk]

greenpassion, on 17 November 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

i have been done with this team since 07 i knew then we werent going anywhere with reid

mike vick pulled me back in in '10 and imo he did about as well as he could with these crappy coaches and their play calling

ide like to see him finish up his career in maybe buffalo or any team that will run the ball and just let him manage the game, hes not brady or manning and not cut out to be throwing the ball 40-50 times a game but that doesnt mean he cant be successful throwing 20-25 times on a good coached team

i'll always be a fan i admire how he picked himself up after the mistakes and he atleast played his heart out for philly

thanx mike!!!

I agree. I always wanted to see him get his life together but I didn't want it done here. Hopefully he goes to Arizona or somewhere and has some success.


Save it you armchair GMs reading this, I don't care.

[Dudeguyy]

I can still see Vick doing pretty good things if he can adjust to a power running PA passing offense ala SF or Minnesota.

Honestly, the team has been going downhill since AR and MM went mad scientist on the leagues @ss and decided throwing 70-80% of the time (with the number increasing when it matters most late in games) was a great idea. Vick has been utilized terribly here. Everyone knows the guy isn't a stud pocket passer. And we obviously have on the top 3 backs in the NFL. So let's make Vick play Peyton Manning anyway. Ughhhh. So sick of the Fat Man.

Defense would be fine is we'd given Bowles the offseason to adjust to DC and implement his own system. But we stuck with Castillo and got a decent unit that couldn't quite get it done when it mattered and played with no edge.

Honestly, I feel bad for Mike. He went out there like a soldier every week--  crappy blitz recognition and all-- and played his heart out. He got destroyed over and over again. And I think it just destroyed his confidence which caused his already high turnovers to increase. It would've been nice to see how this season unfolds if Mike has a competent OL. But it is good for his career and the Philly organization that we tanked so we can start over from the Fat Man.

[GT500]

CMPunk, on 17 November 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:

I agree. I always wanted to see him get his life together but I didn't want it done here. Hopefully he goes to Arizona or somewhere and has some success.


Save it you armchair GMs reading this, I don't care.

you're an idiot, cm****ot

[NickyEyes]

greenpassion, on 17 November 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

i have been done with this team since 07 i knew then we werent going anywhere with reid

mike vick pulled me back in in '10 and imo he did about as well as he could with these crappy coaches and their play calling

ide like to see him finish up his career in maybe buffalo or any team that will run the ball and just let him manage the game, hes not brady or manning and not cut out to be throwing the ball 40-50 times a game but that doesnt mean he cant be successful throwing 20-25 times on a good coached team

i'll always be a fan i admire how he picked himself up after the mistakes and he atleast played his heart out for philly

thanx mike!!!

you were done with the team in the NFCCG in 2008?

[Plache]

He did let the team down, as did Andy, Marty, Juan, Todd, Bobby, and so on......I think you get the point....I've been whining for Andy to be gone after he abused McNabb in the '05 season....the man has no clue....thank God the end is finally near....Vick could be a solid QB with a decent coach that understands his limitations....unfortunately (for Michael and the fans), Andy (and his entire coaching staff) isn't that coach.

[CMPunk]

GT500, on 17 November 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

you're an idiot, cm****ot

I don't understand your hostility. Your boy is finally getting to start this week.

Plache, on 17 November 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

He did let the team down, as did Andy, Marty, Juan, Todd, Bobby, and so on......I think you get the point....I've been whining for Andy to be gone after he abused McNabb in the '05 season....the man has no clue....thank God the end is finally near....Vick could be a solid QB with a decent coach that understands his limitations....unfortunately (for Michael and the fans), Andy (and his entire coaching staff) isn't that coach.

Yeah. Andy and Vick can go continue their careers elsewhere with less spotlight and we get to clean house and rebuild. Its a win-win.

[greenpassion]

NickyEyes, on 17 November 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

you were done with the team in the NFCCG in 2008?

yes i wasnt buying that run in 08. in all the other conference title games i had huge parties with huge crowds

in 08 i layed in my bed and watched the game alone just wasnt feeling it been there done that with reid wasnt getting heartbroken again

[axe_man_trotter]

Probably because he did...

[H-field Hero]

Eh plenty of blame to go around not to mention the fact that the opposing teams players get paid to out there and kick a** too so there's no need for Vick to beat himself up too much.  He has been under performing though.

[whodi.]

Reid is squarely to blame for sticking with Vick all this time when it was obvious by the end of 2010 that Vick wasn't suited for this style of offense.

[kmass88]

Whole team sucks and is over-rated.  I commend Mike for his missued service here. And the fact that over the last 3 seasons I consistently watched him get BLASTED every weekend minus the bye and he still hung in there and kept with it. This year was just ugly. I'm surprised it took him this long to get hurt and that he can even walk at this point.

[Kolbfan4]

kmass88, on 17 November 2012 - 02:03 PM, said:

Whole team sucks and is over-rated.  I commend Mike for his missued service here. And the fact that over the last 3 seasons I consistently watched him get BLASTED every weekend minus the bye and he still hung in there and kept with it. This year was just ugly. I'm surprised it took him this long to get hurt and that he can even walk at this point.

The whole team sucks, but not Vick? I think when your whole team sucks most of the blame goes to the QB and the HC.

[L.E.]

NickyEyes, on 17 November 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

you were done with the team in the NFCCG in 2008?

If you didn't see that loss coming you weren't paying attention the 7 years prior.

[CMPunk]

Kolbfan4, on 17 November 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

The whole team sucks, but not Vick? I think when your whole team sucks most of the blame goes to the QB and the HC.

No, this really only happens in Philly. Everyone else can see that this offensive line is garbage. Not to excuse Vick from any blame though.

[Kolbfan4]

CMPunk, on 17 November 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

No, this really only happens in Philly. Everyone else can see that this offensive line is garbage. Not to excuse Vick from any blame though.

What would people expect. There are 4 back-up O-Linemen. They don't grow on trees.

[Iron_Eagle_04]

he pretty much did,  but this is far from being all Vick's fault too.

[Shocker54]

Out of all the people to blame I put Vick down on the list.

not in order

Reid, O line play, whole defense in general.

I think those groups are much bigger culprits imo than Vick.

[BDAWK_4EVER]

Kolbfan4, on 17 November 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:

What would people expect. There are 4 back-up O-Linemen. They don't grow on trees.

It's Andy's fault he couldn't find All-Pros to back up the starters!!!

[Audit2]

Vick did a good job considering what he had to work with.  I believe we will see a Vick led team in contention for a SB.  I still believe he will be in Philly next season.

[GT500]

Iron_Eagle_04, on 17 November 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

he pretty much did,  but this is far from being all Vick's fault too.

No, but he's the head, time to cut the head off, who you gonna develop a mancrush for now

[Kolbfan4]

Shocker54, on 17 November 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

Out of all the people to blame I put Vick down on the list.

not in order

Reid, O line play, whole defense in general.

I think those groups are much bigger culprits imo than Vick.

I mean I don't there it's a coincidence that we are last place in the division and we have the worst starting QB in the division as well...

Audit2, on 17 November 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

Vick did a good job considering what he had to work with.  I believe we will see a Vick led team in contention for a SB.  I still believe he will be in Philly next season.

The Soul need a Quarterback?

[GT500]

Audit2, on 17 November 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

Vick did a good job considering what he had to work with.  I believe we will see a Vick led team in contention for a SB.  I still believe he will be in Philly next season.

Are you completely stupid?

[Plache]

Audit2, on 17 November 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

Vick did a good job considering what he had to work with.  I believe we will see a Vick led team in contention for a SB.  I still believe he will be in Philly next season.

Are you high?

[Lloyd]

greenpassion, on 17 November 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

i have been done with this team since 07 i knew then we werent going anywhere with reid

mike vick pulled me back in in '10 and imo he did about as well as he could with these crappy coaches and their play calling

ide like to see him finish up his career in maybe buffalo or any team that will run the ball and just let him manage the game, hes not brady or manning and not cut out to be throwing the ball 40-50 times a game but that doesnt mean he cant be successful throwing 20-25 times on a good coached team

i'll always be a fan i admire how he picked himself up after the mistakes and he atleast played his heart out for philly

thanx mike!!!

You said that Vick "pulled you back in in 2010"

But isn't the reason that he had some of his best games passing ever because of the coaching and playcalling?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Reid and Marty are good (they're not). But it seems like you're deflecting blame from Vick...who stank as a passer prior to those six games in 2010. And has pretty much always stank as a passer. Maybe he doesn't need the Buffalo offense to succeed. Maybe he's just not cut out to be a successful QB.

[eglz1]

He did okay 'til his tires started showing cord.  I wonder if Cam Newton is paying attention?

[CMPunk]

Audit2, on 17 November 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

Vick did a good job considering what he had to work with.  I believe we will see a Vick led team in contention for a SB.  I still believe he will be in Philly next season.

No. I'm a Vick supporter but he won't be in Philly next year. I'm not sure if our starting QB for next year is even on the roster.

[kmass88]

Kolbfan4, on 17 November 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

The whole team sucks, but not Vick? I think when your whole team sucks most of the blame goes to the QB and the HC.

The whole team MEANS THE WHOLE TEAM. Stop cherry picking the post to add to whatever haterism/TATER agenda you are trying to push.

I added as an aside that I commended Mike for his service here and gave props to him for playing despite getting blasted every week. No where in that post did I say the WHOLE TEAM sucks with the EXCEPTION OF MIKE VICK.  

And that's the most ridiculous assessment I have ever heard. It's the Qbs fault dbs can't cover? defensive players can't wrap up and tackle? Blitzes don't get home? Safty's blow coverage assignments? Centers/offensive lineman don't correctly identify blocks and pick up blitzes? WRs don't break off routes and come back to the ball?

There's so much that is broke with this team that its not even funny.  Yes the HC needs to shoulder a lot of the blame, the QB as well for some of the offensive short falls. But football almost more so than any other professional sport is a complete team game. And the Eagles have completely 100% crapped the bed as a team this year.

Reading and comprehension FTW