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[eagles4life]

There are so many holes on this team its not even funny.  We're top ten guaranteed in the upcoming draft and I think I would want a top cornerback or top safety first. Our secondary is awful, so thats what I would pick.  A friend of mine says he would choose a Qb. What position would you pick in the 1st round?

[The_Talon]

honestly? offensive line. I'd blow our whole draft on O-line, safety and linebackers. and not smaller, "fast-balls" either. Emmitt Smith was an average running back who played behind the biggest offensive line in the league. I say we go after the 400 pounders

[stang8118]

Depends on who the BPA is, but if I could choose it would be a OT.

My ideal draft would look like this...

1st - OT
2nd - G/TE
3rd - G/TE
4th - G
5th - defense depth
6th - "     "
7th - "    "

[flyeagles]

is this a trick question ?

[#99]

BPA

[PickFoles]

We don't need another cornerback.

We do need:

Quarterback - but there aren't any good ones this draft, so skip it and sign a free agent fill in for next season
Offensive Line - should be our top pick, maybe top 2 picks
Safety - biggest defensive need
Linebacker - could definitely still use another one

[PoconoDon]

Whatever position the NEW GM thinks is best.

[cowboysblow56]

Safety. Our o-line is pretty good when healthy. Nate Allen and Kurt Coleman should be in the cfl.

[iluvdaeagles]

oline

[#99]

Doesn't matter if they have the position filled or not, take the best player available.

[Innocence096]

There are no top 10 safetys in this class. The QBs are  garbage, no elite big bodies receivers, I honestly am not a fan of this years crop but if Reid stuck around I think Joeckel would be the pick.

[iluvdaeagles]

PickFoles, on 18 November 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

We don't need another cornerback.

We do need:

Quarterback - but there aren't any good ones this draft, so skip it and sign a free agent fill in for next season
Offensive Line - should be our top pick, maybe top 2 picks
Safety - biggest defensive need
Linebacker - could definitely still use another one

like who?

no1 is gonna be out there

[PickFoles]

iluvdaeagles, on 18 November 2012 - 11:30 PM, said:

like who?

no1 is gonna be out there

Anyone.

I'm not talking about someone good, just someone to stand behind the offensive line and take hits.

It's going to take more than 1 season to rebuild this team.

[eagles4life]

To flyeagles

    What do you mean is this a trick question?  We got a ton of holes on this team. What position is so obvious from the others in your mind?

[The_Talon]

#99, on 18 November 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

BPA

what difference does the BPA make if they don't fit your scheme? That's been the problem. They haven't picked who would work out the best for the needs of the team, and I think that's how you have to approach it. Heck, even if they did go for the BPA, it's not like this staff would recognize them if they came up and kissed them.

[iluvdaeagles]

PickFoles, on 18 November 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

Anyone.

I'm not talking about someone good, just someone to stand behind the offensive line and take hits.

It's going to take more than 1 season to rebuild this team.

lol

[#99]

The_Talon, on 18 November 2012 - 11:40 PM, said:

what difference does the BPA make if they don't fit your scheme? That's been the problem. They haven't picked who would work out the best for the needs of the team, and I think that's how you have to approach it. Heck, even if they did go for the BPA, it's not like this staff would recognize them if they came up and kissed them.

Who said I want this staff involved?  Real teams draft BPA, real coaches play that BPA where they will excel.  Real
coaches will make it work, real FOs draft BPA.

If the BPA doesnt fit "your scheme" maybe your scheme sucks?  Forget schemes, schemes are the problem here.  I dont want SCHEMES anymore.  I want a team to line up and play football.  Stop trying to outscheme and just try to beat them.

[shalodeep17]

When our line is healthy, its not bad, but I'd aim for the top tackle, move Todd back to an inside man and let the line play itself out. Its health at the line, not actual starting talent that has us suffering. I don't know the draft class this year at all yet, but I know the QB crop is quite questionable. I would try to keep Foles upright for a season and If we lack success  we will be back in position next year for maybe a stronger QB prospect

[The_Talon]

#99, on 18 November 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:

Who said I want this staff involved?  Real teams draft BPA, real coaches play that BPA where they will excel.  Real
coaches will make it work, real FOs draft BPA.

If the BPA doesnt fit "your scheme" maybe your scheme sucks?  Forget schemes, schemes are the problem here.  I dont want SCHEMES anymore.  I want a team to line up and play football.  Stop trying to outscheme and just try to beat them.

because this isn't the Make A Wish Foundation and you might not have a choice in whether this staff is involved or not. Howie just got an extension. He's not a football guy, and he's going to the one making the calls, unless a new coach can come in here and demand that he's in complete charge of all football operations, including scouting and player personnel.

[CaliEagle]

1.  Offensive Tackle
2.  Defensive End
3.  Safety
4.  Cornerback

But, the BPA when all is said and done.  If the Eagles have a top 8 pick, you need to try to get a perennial pro bowl player.  So, if that is at CB 9or whatever position), then so be it.

[#99]

The_Talon, on 18 November 2012 - 11:51 PM, said:

because this isn't the Make A Wish Foundation and you might not have a choice in whether this staff is involved or not. Howie just got an extension. He's not a football guy, and he's going to the one making the calls, unless a new coach can come in here and demand that he's in complete charge of all football operations, including scouting and player personnel.

Dude...that extension doesnt mean a damn thing.  Hes gone.  They cant get a new coach with Howie Roseman in that position.  No coach wil come here.

[cowboysblow56]

shalodeep17, on 18 November 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

When our line is healthy, its not bad, but I'd aim for the top tackle, move Todd back to an inside man and let the line play itself out. Its health at the line, not actual starting talent that has us suffering. I don't know the draft class this year at all yet, but I know the QB crop is quite questionable. I would try to keep Foles upright for a season and If we lack success  we will be back in position next year for maybe a stronger QB prospect

If u move Todd back to guard who do U get rid of? Mathis has been our only good olineman this year and it's too early to give up on Watkins.

[#99]

cowboysblow56, on 18 November 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:

If u move Todd back to guard who do U get rid of? Mathis has been our only good olineman this year and it's too early to give up on Watkins.

You need to time warp to present day.  Watkins has been given up on and Mathis hasn't been good at all.  This is 2012, not the end of 2011.

[cowboysblow56]

#99, on 18 November 2012 - 11:55 PM, said:

You need to time warp to present day.  Watkins has been given up on and Mathis hasn't been good at all.  This is 2012, not the end of 2011.

Mathis has outplayed herremans all year.

[iluvdaeagles]

cowboysblow56, on 18 November 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:

If u move Todd back to guard who do U get rid of? Mathis has been our only good olineman this year and it's too early to give up on Watkins.

what games are you watching? mathis has been a bum

[cowboysblow56]

iluvdaeagles, on 18 November 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

what games are you watching? mathis has been a bum

What games have u been watching? Herremans is a bum.

[#99]

cowboysblow56, on 18 November 2012 - 11:57 PM, said:

Mathis has outplayed herremans all year.

Cool, now compare Mathis to a guard and Herremans to a tackle.  Better yet, put mathis at tackle and herremans at guard.  Nows whos the better lineman?  What are we talking about here?  Mathis has been horrible, the entire line has been horrible.  Herremans is the only one that has been consistently good over a long career and you want to compare him to a journeyman bum playing the easier position.

[cowboysblow56]

#99, on 19 November 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

Cool, now compare Mathis to a guard and Herremans to a tackle.  Better yet, put mathis at tackle and herremans at guard.  Nows whos the better lineman?  What are we talking about here?  Mathis has been horrible, the entire line has been horrible.  Herremans is the only one that has been consistently good over a long career and you want to compare him to a journeyman bum playing the easier position.

Consistently good? Herremans is the definition of average... And he's a garbage tackle.

[iluvdaeagles]

cowboysblow56, on 18 November 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:

What games have u been watching? Herremans is a bum.

where did i say todd wasnt playing like a bum this year....

idiot

[dmor]

Assuming the Eagles have a high draft pick, you gotta go for a franchise QB if one is available.