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[eagleeyejk]

It doesn't make sense to promote someone to interim coach to me, there isn't a great assistant here you want to try out.

Hiring a new coach from the outside just isn't going to happen and it'd be way more detrimental than beneficial. You can't implement a new system, etc during the season in the NFL and there isn't a point to it anyway for a 3-7 team.

[GTD]

It's not a matter of promoting one of our lamearse assistants to see if they could be an HC for real (ha ha fing ha), it's putting Andy out of his misery, and sparing the rest of us six more weeks of heavy breathing, coughing, and hearing about needing to put the players in better position and time's yours. This season is TOAST. Trim the fat now!

[BillTheButcher]

Trenton Eagle, on 20 November 2012 - 05:32 AM, said:

It's not a matter of promoting one of our lamearse assistants to see if they could be an HC for real (ha ha fing ha), it's putting Andy out of his misery, and sparing the rest of us six more weeks of heavy breathing, coughing, and hearing about needing to put the players in better position and time's yours. This season is TOAST. Trim the fat now!

Nah if andy doesnt want to be let go inseason then he should stay put untill it ends. Period. We had 14 years of this we can take 6 more games if u cant ur a ****.Firing him now doesnt help you see if players will quit that will happen on its own no matter what as we move forward, it wont give you any type of a different or better evaluation, we play the same games vs the same teams with the same players no matter what.. Dont listen to Mikey Miss he is just a talking head trying to get you all riled up and to listen to his show,

[wvjerome]

Although I agree that Andy should still coach the Eagles (for much different reasons) until the season is over, I have to disagree about this season being lost. This season is only lost if Reid put Mike Vick back into another game to "try and win football games." This season should now be about grooming Foles and evaluating talent. Many of the guys wont be back next season so now would be a good time to play guys like Vinny Curry, Curtis Marsh, Nick Foles, and others to see if they really can play. Reid's no dummy. He knows the end is near and if he had some respect for the organization he would do what's right by the organization and play the young guys and stop trying to win meaningless games.

[BillTheButcher]

wvjerome, on 20 November 2012 - 05:40 AM, said:

Although I agree that Andy should still coach the Eagles (for much different reasons) until the season is over, I have to disagree about this season being lost. This season is only lost if Reid put Mike Vick back into another game to "try and win football games." This season should now be about grooming Foles and evaluating talent. Many of the guys wont be back next season so now would be a good time to play guys like Vinny Curry, Curtis Marsh, Nick Foles, and others to see if they really can play. Reid's no dummy. He knows the end is near and if he had some respect for the organization he would do what's right by the organization and play the young guys and stop trying to win meaningless games.

Andy will try to win untill we are officially out of it. And curry is playing next week according to reports.

[GTD]

I don't listen to Missanelli (sp?). I don't need him to tell me how I feel. The season is lost, but I agree with the noob above who says it's time to play players other than the starters to see if they can play. Babin, Cole, Nnamdi, DRC - have a seat. Noob makes way more sense than the Andy fluffers. Play Curry, Boykin (although him and Coleman were a JOKE on that Moss TD), Hughes, Marsh.
Find out if any of them are even worthy to play on ST next season. Play Foles the rest of the way (I think he's worse than Kolb), but if Fatso doesn't get fired this week, he might put Edwards in if Foles craps the bed in the first half Monday.
FATSO MUST GO
FATSO MUST GO
FATSO MUST GO!!!
F-A-T-S-O FIRED!!!

[GOOD.GRIEF!]

DrPhilly, on 19 November 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:

no one wants him to stay but there isn't any point in firing him now either, wait until the day after the last game, it won't make a single difference on next year or beyond

he is the all time leading coach in wins historically for the club, made 5 NFC championship games and 1 Super Bowl, i'm very happy to see him leave but let him finish the season

Exactly.  The maturity level here is astonishing. What exactly is the point in this bloodthirsty mob mentality?  It won't help next year at all.

I understand being upset but just let it go. This season is gone. We get to start over in less than two months. Be classy until then.

[djbigf]

dmor, on 19 November 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

Well that's exactly it.  The thing that the whiners can't do is explain what firing Reid midseason will accomplish for the team.  They just want a pound of flesh (okay, maybe a few pounds of flesh).

if we wanted a pound of flesh, we'd want him to coach out the string and suffer thru 6 more losing pressers.  after watching him needlessly injure the team's best player, a player whose woeful underutilization is one of the reasons for his firing, plus have a rookie QB run 51 pass plays during his 1st start, i want him out of here before his abjectly inept leadership damages this already broken team any further.

[GTD]

GOOD.GRIEF!, on 20 November 2012 - 06:26 AM, said:

Be classy until then.

Be classy? Fat bastid runs Shady at the end of the game and he gets injured. Check the official stats. Shady 20 or more carries = Eagles 3-0.   Less = 0-7. So Fatso the Clown decides to run him near the end of a 25-point loss. Where is Dion Lewis ? another Fatso bust. Lewis was a second or third round pick, and 7th round pick Brown beat him out.
FATSO MUST GO!!!

[L.E.]

He should have been fired years ago. This is long, long overdue.

[eglz1]

BillTheButcher, on 20 November 2012 - 01:12 AM, said:

i know vick is not the future, im all for foles starting, but now its time for you to comprehend what i said,  you are just guessing that whatever new coach replaces reid during the season would start foles over vick. They very well could go back to vick the same as you think reid will go back to vick. Do YOU comrehend????

The Eagles - J. Lurie and A. Reid - gambled a lot of their reputation and not an insignicant amount of $ on M. Vick.  They lost.  I doubt a new G.M./coach will have the same skin in the game.

[Ipspots]

Dopnt care anymore... Just Fire him and his staff.... Hire a new coach- Rebuild.

Would be nice to have some interest in watching the last 6 games, but I doubt we will see all the young players till the last game.

[odin8888]

Find a better option, and while Reid is here, remember he has brought us more success than we have had since Vermeil...

Show some support for this team on Monday night please!!! Please show some F'in class... (said it philly style so you understand... lol)

[dmor]

odin8888, on 20 November 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

Find a better option, and while Reid is here, remember he has brought us more success than we have had since Vermeil...

He had more success THAN Vermeil - and Vermeil bugged out after a strike shortened losing season.

[DieHardPhan]

Shut up.

[Fitz2k2]

we don't have to see no more wasted timeouts

[GTD]

To hell with class. I read in today's Trentonian that Reid said if Vick is cleared to play, he will start.
Fat, arrogant IDIOT!
Duce Staley? I'd take Layne Staley* over Fatso the Clown. They're equally brain-dead.


* Yes, I know, bad taste. But it's only gonna get worse if Lurie doesn't spare the fat man the last 6 weeks of grief and let him go.

[iluvdaeagles]

Fitz2k2, on 20 November 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:

we don't have to see no more wasted timeouts

those are on players often times....just saying

i think once reid leaves we will see that you cant blame everything on the coaches

million dollar players have to do their jobs as well

Trenton Eagle, on 20 November 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

To hell with class. I read in today's Trentonian that Reid said if Vick is cleared to play, he will start.

he is the best player at his position on the team...why wouldnt he start if healthy?

[alasi]

odin8888, on 20 November 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

Find a better option, and while Reid is here, remember he has brought us more success than we have had since Vermeil...

Show some support for this team on Monday night please!!! Please show some F'in class... (said it philly style so you understand... lol)

Reid needs to go, after the season, out of respect for the good seasons he did bring us. But make no mistake, based on his performance this year, he cannot be allowed to stay.

[bobbyuk]

Wow, I read most of the responses, but what a bloodthirsty crowd. And I can't believe some of the responses on here, but I'll offer my own take. First of all, I think Reid should have taken a leave of absence this year--if he didn't want to, then Lurie should have forced him to--theat means Morninwheig or perhaps someone else would have been named interim coach.

Second, I saw one poster on here who called him a "loser coach"--really? And for those who say he only got 139 wins because the NFC was weak, well, what does that say about the teams that beat them to get to the SB?  He might have benefited from a weak NFG East, but--is it his fault that the Skins, Giants, and especially Cowboys hired all idiots to coach their teams during that time. And let's not forget that until Reid beat the Giants on MNF in 2001, he had lost 5 straight, including a playoff game to the Giants. Sorry, but if the NFL were an easy league, there would be no firing of coaches.

Third, you have to hope that whomever they  bring in is BETTER than Reid. Getting to the playoffs or the NFCCG is not going to be the benchmark--the next coach will have to win a SB--and fairly quickly. It's been pointed out that several coaches have won SBs within 5 years of their appointment--Brian Billick won his in his 2nd year with the Ravens. So that's what the fanbase is going to have to contend with.

Fourth, let's get off the "the late, great, Jim Johnson only made Reid". Listen, for those of you with short term memory loss, if it hadn't been for JJ's getting outmaneuvered in NFCCGs and the SB, the Eagles probably would have at least one, if not 3 SB trophies--they lead 17-13 against the Rams in the 02 NFCCG and the Rams came out and controlled the ball for 12.30 of the 3rd quarter, while getting 3 FGs, and when they needed the ball in the 4th, Marshall Faulk ran all over them; the 03 NFCCG was lost when they let the Bucs go 96 yards--including that speedster Joe Jurevicous# 71 yard TD catch; in the SB, they had the Pats back at thei r own 6, with a 3rd and 10, leading 7-0 and the Pats screened all the way up the field. In the 2nd half, they played ball control in the 2nd half. In the 06 divisional against the Saints, they gave up huge plays after the Eagles took a 21-13 lead in the 2nd half; in the 09 NFCCG, they dug themselves in a hole, down 24-6 at the half, then giving up a huge 78 yard TD drive to help Az win it. Of course, Reid's offense had a hand in losing these games, but please, JJ's defense was just as responsible.

Fifth, for those that revere Vermeil or Ryan more than Reid, at least Reid isn't walking out like Vermeil did at the end of the 82 season because he didn't want to try to revamp the team; and Ryan had the most talented team of the time and couldn't win a playoff game--and that's after Marion Campbell left him with Wes Hopkins, Reggie White, Andre Waters, and Randall Cunningham; lots of fans say Reid only won with Rhodes' players, but ignore the fact that it was Campbell, not Ryan, who had drafted or signed some of the best D players the Eagles had at that time--maybe if Ryan had stuck around to draft more players in later rounds he might have found some difference makers--he only stuck around his first draft in 86--the rest of the time, he traded all of his late round picks for early ronders that didn't pan out.

Lastly, what is firing Reid NOW going to accomplish?? You only do that if you have a guy on the the coaching staff that is an unquestioned leader--but with mercenaries like Howard Mudd and Jim Washburn, and Marty, you don't have that.

So let's wait till this season has run its course and then fire the guy--he made football watchable in Philly again after Ryan, Kotite, and Rhodes--I think he deserves that much.

[bobbyuk]

Wow, I read most of the responses, but what a bloodthirsty crowd. And I can't believe some of the responses on here, but I'll offer my own take. First of all, I think Reid should have taken a leave of absence this year--if he didn't want to, then Lurie should have forced him to--theat means Morninwheig or perhaps someone else would have been named interim coach.

Second, I saw one poster on here who called him a "loser coach"--really? And for those who say he only got 139 wins because the NFC was weak, well, what does that say about the teams that beat them to get to the SB?  He might have benefited from a weak NFG East, but--is it his fault that the Skins, Giants, and especially Cowboys hired all idiots to coach their teams during that time. And let's not forget that until Reid beat the Giants on MNF in 2001, he had lost 5 straight, including a playoff game to the Giants. Sorry, but if the NFL were an easy league, there would be no firing of coaches.

Third, you have to hope that whomever they  bring in is BETTER than Reid. Getting to the playoffs or the NFCCG is not going to be the benchmark--the next coach will have to win a SB--and fairly quickly. It's been pointed out that several coaches have won SBs within 5 years of their appointment--Brian Billick won his in his 2nd year with the Ravens. So that's what the fanbase is going to have to contend with.

Fourth, let's get off the "the late, great, Jim Johnson only made Reid". Listen, for those of you with short term memory loss, if it hadn't been for JJ's getting outmaneuvered in NFCCGs and the SB, the Eagles probably would have at least one, if not 3 SB trophies--they lead 17-13 against the Rams in the 02 NFCCG and the Rams came out and controlled the ball for 12.30 of the 3rd quarter, while getting 3 FGs, and when they needed the ball in the 4th, Marshall Faulk ran all over them; the 03 NFCCG was lost when they let the Bucs go 96 yards--including that speedster Joe Jurevicous# 71 yard TD catch; in the SB, they had the Pats back at thei r own 6, with a 3rd and 10, leading 7-0 and the Pats screened all the way up the field. In the 2nd half, they played ball control in the 2nd half. In the 06 divisional against the Saints, they gave up huge plays after the Eagles took a 21-13 lead in the 2nd half; in the 09 NFCCG, they dug themselves in a hole, down 24-6 at the half, then giving up a huge 78 yard TD drive to help Az win it. Of course, Reid's offense had a hand in losing these games, but please, JJ's defense was just as responsible.

Fifth, for those that revere Vermeil or Ryan more than Reid, at least Reid isn't walking out like Vermeil did at the end of the 82 season because he didn't want to try to revamp the team; and Ryan had the most talented team of the time and couldn't win a playoff game--and that's after Marion Campbell left him with Wes Hopkins, Reggie White, Andre Waters, and Randall Cunningham; lots of fans say Reid only won with Rhodes' players, but ignore the fact that it was Campbell, not Ryan, who had drafted or signed some of the best D players the Eagles had at that time--maybe if Ryan had stuck around to draft more players in later rounds he might have found some difference makers--he only stuck around his first draft in 86--the rest of the time, he traded all of his late round picks for early ronders that didn't pan out.

Lastly, what is firing Reid NOW going to accomplish?? You only do that if you have a guy on the the coaching staff that is an unquestioned leader--but with mercenaries like Howard Mudd and Jim Washburn, and Marty, you don't have that.

So let's wait till this season has run its course and then fire the guy--he made football watchable in Philly again after Ryan, Kotite, and Rhodes--I think he deserves that much.

[djbigf]

that post was longwinded enough...you didn't have to torture us further by posting it 2x.

you're as bad of a reid apologist as bigblew.  go spit.  no one cares what you think.

[GTD]

iluvdaeagles, on 20 November 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

he is the best player at his position on the team...why wouldnt he start if healthy?

Because the season is OVER. I wish there was some crack, herb, or acid strong enough to delude me into thinking that the Birds will finish out 6-0 and make the playoffs - but there is no such thing, therefore I must remain in reality.
You start Foles, period. If he sits behind Vick, then how do you ever find out if he's a legit NFL QB or not?
If Foles shows promise, the new coach can keep him and draft someone to block for him. If he blows chunks, then you will either need to draft a QB in the first round (and I hear the QB class is crap in this draft), or hope the new coach will utilize Vick's strengths and not mismanage him like Fatso does.

[greend]

FIRE REID

[kb420]

[kb420]

greend, on 21 November 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

FIRE REID NOW!!!

fixed.