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[AceofSpades]

Moss has been one of those candidates for almost every head coaching job but I think he's getting close to that time where he gets it. I'd love for the Eagles to give him that opportunity. He's well respected around the league and it's been said time and time again about how he was the only defensive coach retained by Green Bay when they decided to switch from the 4-3 to the 3-4. I think that with him being a former player in the league he'd bring some passion and intensity to the team that's sorely needed. I think with him being experienced (both as a player and as a coach) in multiple defensive schemes, that'll help the defense like nothing else.

I'd like to see a staff that looks something like this.

Winston Moss - Head Coach
Pat Shurmur or Aaron Kromer - Offensive Coordinator
David Merritt (Giants S Coach) - Defensive Coordinator
Larry Izzo (Giants Asst. Special Teams Coach) - Special Teams Coordinator

[Iggles99]

Im on board for Moss. Tedford just got fired, he could be an interesting hire for OC

[GroundAttack]

Not a bad idea at all. Someone new besides Gruden, Kelly and Dungy.

[AceofSpades]

GroundAttack, on 20 November 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

Not a bad idea at all. Someone new besides Gruden, Kelly and Dungy.

The reason people attach themselves to those names is because those are names the people recognize. They act like those names guarantee instant success for the Eagles. Let's look at 3 of the big 4 that keep coming up. I like Gruden and everything but he never won another playoff game after Super Bowl XXXVII and had more than 10 different starting QBs in Tampa. Dungy for years was known as that guy that couldn't get to the next level. It took going to Indy & getting hooked up with Peyton Manning. I like Dungy & everything but I gotta credit Peyton more than I do Dungy and that defense was awful. And with Bill Cowher (didn't we just go through that sans the Super Bowl ring?)......

[AceofSpades]

Lurie's trend is to go so with somebody that a lot of people may not be thinking would get a head coaching job. He did it with Rhodes & Reid and Moss' experience both as a player and as an assistant coach could open up a lot for this team defensively.

[Sean Jerz]

I'm on board with Moss as our next HC. I believe he's hungry  to become a successful NFL head coach. He's not a turnover from somewhere else that failed, he's new, young, fresh with new ideas and would put together a monster coaching staff....

Lol! I don't really know about the coaching staff stuff, I'm just wishfully thinking out loud..

[AceofSpades]

Sean Jerz, on 27 November 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

I'm on board with Moss as our next HC. I believe he's hungry  to become a successful NFL head coach. He's not a turnover from somewhere else that failed, he's new, young, fresh with new ideas and would put together a monster coaching staff....

Lol! I don't really know about the coaching staff stuff, I'm just wishfully thinking out loud..

You're actually onto something. He's smart enough to know he's gotta surround himself with smart experienced coaches and it could be a case of hiring assistants who need to prove themselves or re-establish themselves. The other thing is, if the Eagles hired Moss, he'd be the only GB coach they'd get because the Packers don't let assistants raid their coaching staff to fill another. If I was Winston Moss, this is what I'd want for a coaching staff:

Winston Moss - HC
Aaron Kromer (Saints OL/Interim to the Interim Coach),  Pat Shurmur (Browns HC likely to be fired), Jerald Ingram (Giants RB Coach), Joe Lombardi (Saints QB Coach) - Offensive Coordinator Candidates (there are others but I can't think right now),
Ron Rivera (Panthers HC likely to be fired), David Merritt Sr. (Giants Secondary Coach), Mike Singletary (Vikings LB Coach, see Frazier), Pepper Johnson (Patriots LB Coach), Mike Pettine (Jets DC leaving the team) - Defensive Coordinator Candidates

[Jason1978]

Ray Horton and Winston Moss are the top two guys I would want. Herm Edwards is another guy who badly needs to return to football. Not sure if he would be my choice for HC but the defense sure could use a mentor and motivator like Herm.

[Jason1978]

AceofSpades, on 27 November 2012 - 07:50 AM, said:

Lurie's trend is to go so with somebody that a lot of people may not be thinking would get a head coaching job. He did it with Rhodes & Reid and Moss' experience both as a player and as an assistant coach could open up a lot for this team defensively.

Which is why anyone mentioning Gruden, Cowher, Billick, Kelly etc are idiots. On top of that...most of those guys would want too much power, especially Cowher. I doubt Lurie wants to do that yet. Maybe down the road once the next coach proves himself much like Reid did.

[AceofSpades]

Jason1978, on 27 November 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

Which is why anyone mentioning Gruden, Cowher, Billick, Kelly etc are idiots. On top of that...most of those guys would want too much power, especially Cowher. I doubt Lurie wants to do that yet. Maybe down the road once the next coach proves himself much like Reid did.

And on top of that, the Eagles have never hired anybody that has previously been an NFL head coach before which if their intent is to stick with that, would eliminate Cowher, Gruden, & Billick. I said before, what's the real incentive for guys like that? They can say they've got their Super Bowl win before. All they want is money & power.

[NJWolverEagle11]

AceofSpades, on 27 November 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

You're actually onto something. He's smart enough to know he's gotta surround himself with smart experienced coaches and it could be a case of hiring assistants who need to prove themselves or re-establish themselves. The other thing is, if the Eagles hired Moss, he'd be the only GB coach they'd get because the Packers don't let assistants raid their coaching staff to fill another. If I was Winston Moss, this is what I'd want for a coaching staff:

Winston Moss - HC
Aaron Kromer (Saints OL/Interim to the Interim Coach), Jerald Ingram (Giants RB Coach), Joe Lombardi (Saints QB Coach) - Offensive Coordinator Candidates (there are others but I can't think right now).
Ron Rivera (Panthers HC likely to be fired), Leslie Frazier (Vikings HC, could be fired), David Merritt Sr. (Giants Secondary Coach), Mike Singletary (Vikings LB Coach, see Frazier), Pepper Johnson (Patriots LB Coach), Rex Ryan (Jets HC, see Rivera) - Defensive Coordinator Candidates

I'd add Norv to OC candidates. I think he could be shown the door in SD by season's end.  His track record as a OC is much more respectable than as a HC.  If available he's at least worth a look

[AceofSpades]

NJWolverEagle11, on 27 November 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

I'd add Norv to OC candidates. I think he could be shown the door in SD by season's end.  His track record as a OC is much more respectable than as a HC.  If available he's at least worth a look

He's definitely gonna be let go and to be honest I'm surprised the Chargers haven't done it yet. I think there will be a few teams looking to him as an offensive coordinator.

[HaroldTheSecond]

Moss is not a big enough name in a division with Tom Coughlin and Mike Shanahan in it.

[COUGAR028]

AceofSpades, on 27 November 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

You're actually onto something. He's smart enough to know he's gotta surround himself with smart experienced coaches and it could be a case of hiring assistants who need to prove themselves or re-establish themselves. The other thing is, if the Eagles hired Moss, he'd be the only GB coach they'd get because the Packers don't let assistants raid their coaching staff to fill another. If I was Winston Moss, this is what I'd want for a coaching staff:

Winston Moss - HC
Aaron Kromer (Saints OL/Interim to the Interim Coach), Jerald Ingram (Giants RB Coach), Joe Lombardi (Saints QB Coach) - Offensive Coordinator Candidates (there are others but I can't think right now).
Ron Rivera (Panthers HC likely to be fired), Leslie Frazier (Vikings HC, could be fired), David Merritt Sr. (Giants Secondary Coach), Mike Singletary (Vikings LB Coach, see Frazier), Pepper Johnson (Patriots LB Coach), Rex Ryan (Jets HC, see Rivera) - Defensive Coordinator Candidates

I like the Moss for HC option. He was not someone I thought of in my post from yesterday. What do you think of Jon Chavis (LSU DC) for our DC?? He has been a DC in the tough SEC since 1989 for Tenn and LSU.

[AceofSpades]

HaroldTheSecond, on 28 November 2012 - 07:39 AM, said:

Moss is not a big enough name in a division with Tom Coughlin and Mike Shanahan in it.

It doesn't take a big name to compete within this division. It takes a good football coach to compete within this division. Remember how many times Coughlin was almost fired and now he's a great coach. What was the thought about him when he got the Giants job? Well he's a good coach and he's not gonna coddle players but can he put them over the top? So let me reiterate, it doesn't matter what your pedigree is, it doesn't matter how long your resume is, it doesn't matter what your name is, if you can flat out coach, if you can prove to be a really really good football coach who just needs a chance to prove what you can do, that's all that matters.

[AceofSpades]

COUGAR028, on 28 November 2012 - 07:47 AM, said:

I like the Moss for HC option. He was not someone I thought of in my post from yesterday. What do you think of Jon Chavis (LSU DC) for our DC?? He has been a DC in the tough SEC since 1989 for Tenn and LSU.

A lot of what happens with Chavis' future depends on what happens with Les Miles. Could Chavis follow him to Arkansas if in fact Miles takes that job? Could Chavis just look to stay at the college level? I'd seen his name come up before but I'm not entirely sure if he's looking to make a move to the NFL. Being in the college ranks for over 30 years tells me that's where he's comfortable and that's where he's looking to stay.

[Iggles99]

Winston Moss for HC!

[eaglesfan0075]

Moss would be a good choice, and he did openly state his interest in the Eagles DC position before the team promoted Castillo. He might still be interested in coming to Philly if they offer him the HC job straight up.

Darren Perry, the GB safeties coach should also be given a closer look for the HC position. He has achieved success as a player for both Penn State and the Steelers as well as a coach, recently winning SBs with the Steelers and Packers working under two top DCs in LeBeau and Capers.

The only thing that sucks is that the Eagles can only get one GB coach max on their staff due to the unwritten rule of no poaching so they have to pick wisely.

[AceofSpades]

I still think Moss could be a candidate for the Eagles HC job once it becomes available. I know there are "reports" out there that say the Eagles are looking for coach with some type of head coaching experience. But when has anybody known for the Eagles to let any information about their true intentions leak out? It's still possible for the Eagles to go off the radar and not go with any of the names that have been linked to the franchise.

[Sean Jerz]

HaroldTheSecond, on 28 November 2012 - 07:39 AM, said:

Moss is not a big enough name in a division with Tom Coughlin and Mike Shanahan in it.

What? So what if Coughlin and his team were lucky enough to win 2 super bowls in the past few years. They stink! So what if Shanahan has 2 super bowl rings from 20 years ago. He had John Elway as his QB. Now he's gotten lucky again with RG3, , so what?

Why shouldn't we hire a young guy like Moss to stick it to those old farts. Are you kidding? I believe Reid was once a no name coach that came out of no way. At a time when Norv Turner was in DC and Jim Fassell was in NY.At least Moss has had a buzz for the past few years. It's time for him to cash that buzz in. The bank is in Philadelphia!

[AceofSpades]

Sean Jerz, on 27 December 2012 - 03:51 AM, said:

What? So what if Coughlin and his team were lucky enough to win 2 super bowls in the past few years. They stink! So what if Shanahan has 2 super bowl rings from 20 years ago. He had John Elway as his QB. Now he's gotten lucky again with RG3, , so what?

Why shouldn't we hire a young guy like Moss to stick it to those old farts. Are you kidding? I believe Reid was once a no name coach that came out of no way. At a time when Norv Turner was in DC and Jim Fassell was in NY.At least Moss has had a buzz for the past few years. It's time for him to cash that buzz in. The bank is in Philadelphia!

In terms of the long term outlook, Moss is somebody that can be with the team for years to come. People talk about Chip Kelly & Bruce Arians but Kelly could get the itch to go back to college and he'd go right back and Arians almost retired once and he's 60 so who knows how long he'd stick around. Plus I'm not somebody that's worried about a name. I want a guy that can flat out coach football. I believe Moss is a guy who can flat out coach football.

[AceofSpades]

I'd been a Winston Moss fan for a few years now. He wanted this job the last time there was an opening and wants to be a head coach in this league. A good way for him to get that chance is to become a coordinator. It looks like Dom Capers is gonna remain the DC in GB, so what would it hurt to give Moss a chance at DC here? If the Eagles wanna run a hybrid scheme or even switch to the 3-4, Moss is somebody that could help make that change.

[shady4mvp]

yess!!

we talked about in chat today.

[RedZoneD25]

Would be on board, but wouldn't this be considered a downgrade from an Asst. HC gig?

[shady4mvp]

DC =/ ILB coach

[AceofSpades]

RedZoneD25, on 19 January 2013 - 01:25 AM, said:

Would be on board, but wouldn't this be considered a downgrade from an Asst. HC gig?

Not in the eyes of the NFL because he'd still be considered an assistant coach so regardless of what the title is, it's considered a lateral move.

[Jason1978]

Moss was a frontrunner for the DC job before Andy promoted Juan. He also at the time was a favorite by some fans including myself to replace Andy as HC so I am all on board for him as the DC.

[AceofSpades]

Jason1978, on 20 January 2013 - 01:19 AM, said:

Moss was a frontrunner for the DC job before Andy promoted Juan. He also at the time was a favorite by some fans including myself to replace Andy as HC so I am all on board for him as the DC.

I still remember that day. The Wednesday before the Super Bowl, I was listening to a Winston Moss interview and he was specifically asked if he would be interested in the Eagles DC job and he said he sure would. He started talking about what he could do with Trent Cole, Asante Samuel, Graham, Quintin Mikell and a few others and he said he wanted the chance to speak with the Eagles about the job. Then not even 5 minutes later, I see the tweet about Castillo being promoted to DC & a press conference was coming and I laughed myself stupid. Then all of the insiders picked up on it and my laughter literally turned into rage and I just went to PE.com and saw them getting ready for a press conference. I don't think I'd ever cursed louder than I did then.

Anyway, Moss would still be a good candidate for the Eagles this time around and I'd love to see him at least get an interview for the job.

[IggleWalt]

If Moss was the guy he would have already been announced.

[AceofSpades]

IggleWalt, on 25 January 2013 - 06:18 PM, said:

If Moss was the guy he would have already been announced.

You can say that's the case for any other NFL assistant they may be considering. Doesn't mean he's not on their list.