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[Ipspots]

Which means both the Giants and Redskins have much better QB's  and I dont want to hear anything about how bad our Oline is, that doesn't change how good RGlll is.....

Unlike Nnamdi Pamndi... RGlll is as advertised

[CMPunk]

RG3 is better than a lot of QBs. It doesn't mean much.


By the way, JJ Watt is better than any defensive linemen we have. Shocking!

[Ipspots]

CMPunk, on 22 November 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

RG3 is better than a lot of QBs. It doesn't mean much.


By the way, JJ Watt is better than any defensive linemen we have. Shocking!

well son, if you dont have quality QB play... you will not go very far... period.  
Now we have RGlll in our division to contend with as well. While the other teams in our division when they face us all they have to do is blitz us.. and we fold.

[Bear Grylls]

Give Vick a running game and a smarter coach, and he'd be completing 70% of his passes too.  We've seen it with him before!

[Utebird]

i watch RGIII and i dont see a lot pf difference between him and vick, vick has a bigger arm but the main difference is the play calling, the redskins have the second highest run rate in the nfl at 51% their starting RB is ave 5 yards a carry, shannahan continuously puts RGIII in manageable passing situations 3rd and shorts and such and run alot of quick hitters quick drops slants curls bubble screens option plays, where as vick is asked to throw the ball 50 times a game behind a shaky o-line where he is constantly exposed to pressure and hits and put in unfavorable passing situations, 3rd and longs, known passing situations and takes 7 step drops and long balls all game.

marty and reid as always have with vick tried to put a square peg in a round hole. bad o-line qb who doesnt see the field especially well great running back lets throw the ball 60 times a game where as RGIII makes a lot of simple throws and basic reads and isnt asked to do too much.
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[gibsonplyer]

Thank you captain obvious?  We've known that for awhile.  Vick has sucked all season long and despite the hope I had before the season it looks like the doubters were right in that his 2010 performance was the fluke.  Yeah the offensive line is bad.  Yeah the play calling is bad.  But obviously RG3 is a special player which we don't have at QB.  Vick has lost a step and he's not the threat he used to be and his height is an issue as well.  Plus his decision making...he just does things that you shouldn't be seeing from a player his age.  Even if he's a victim of a bad situation more than I'm factoring his best days are behind him.  Its time to look to the future.

Foles to this point hasn't shown much if anything but at this point I know what we have in Vick and he's gone next year so might as well see if Foles is worth anything or if QB jumps to the top of the needs list.

Right now:  O-line, QB?, CB, safety,  I want an athletic freak of a TE to pair with Celek who is OK but I'd like to see the new coach incorporate some more 2 TE into the offense.

[SweetlyMiixed]

Wish we had RGIII  ... SIGH... imagine in a few years what he's going to be like. He's in our division so were going to be competing with him as he improves throughout the years.

[Ipspots]

SweetlyMiixed, on 22 November 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

Wish we had RGIII  ... SIGH... imagine in a few years what he's going to be like. He's in our division so were going to be competing with him as he improves throughout the years.

Thats my point..... This division will be tough to win the next few years with both Manning and RG in it

[DieHardPhan]

Ipspots, on 22 November 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

Which means both the Giants and Redskins have much better QB's  and I dont want to hear anything about how bad our Oline is, that doesn't change how good RGlll is.....

Unlike Nnamdi Pamndi... RGlll is as advertised

And we needed another thread about this well known fact because...?

[Ipspots]

DieHardPhan, on 22 November 2012 - 07:51 PM, said:

And we needed another thread about this well known fact because...?

Because I am watching him perform better as a Rookie than any QB we have....... thats why.  You dont like it? DONT READ IT

[DyrtyyByrd]

No surprise here

[CMPunk]

DieHardPhan, on 22 November 2012 - 07:51 PM, said:

And we needed another thread about this well known fact because...?

He needed another excuse to bash Vick despite the fact that he is no longer playing

[FanSinceWayBack]

Difference in AR and Shanny - Shanny wants to win, therefor he gameplans around the strength of his team. Only time AR game plans is when hes trying to figure out if he should get 2 or 3 plates in the buffet line.

[GT500]

Bear Grylls, on 22 November 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

Give Vick a running game and a smarter coach, and he'd be completing 70% of his passes too.  We've seen it with him before!

Dang, this is the dumbest post of the day, Vick is terrible

[BIRDZEYEVIEW]

The same reason I posted asking: What's the difference between Foles and other rookie QBs?

[L.E.]

E. Manning
RGIII
Romo
Foles
Vick

NFCE

[mike030270]

Because they beat the Cowboys? Cowboys suck too. Only QB that is any good in the NFCE is Manning. Redskins aren't good just because they beat Eagles and Cowboys

[BlackPooL]

Ipspots, on 22 November 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

well son, if you dont have quality QB play... you will not go very far... period.  
Now we have RGlll in our division to contend with as well. While the other teams in our division when they face us all they have to do is blitz us.. and we fold.

Damn.  Eagles should have grabbed RGIII.  He was right there at #12!  Oh wait.....


So the Skins and Giants have better QBs than the Eagles have.  What are the Eagles supposed to do about that right now?

[Netherscourge]

RG3 is young, big, fast and knows how to read defenses.

He's already better than any Eagles QB.

BlackPooL, on 22 November 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Damn.  Eagles should have grabbed RGIII.  He was right there at #12!  Oh wait.....


So the Skins and Giants have better QBs than the Eagles have.  What are the Eagles supposed to do about that right now?

---Sit back and watch another NFC East team add Lombardi trophies to their display cabinets - as usual.

[Froggy]

Bear Grylls, on 22 November 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

Give Vick a running game and a smarter coach, and he'd be completing 70% of his passes too.  We've seen it with him before!

Excuse me?

[Ipspots]

Netherscourge, on 22 November 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

RG3 is young, big, fast and knows how to read defenses.

He's already better than any Eagles QB.



---Sit back and watch another NFC East team add Lombardi trophies to their display cabinets - as usual.

You get it, some dont!!

[BlackPooL]

Netherscourge, on 22 November 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

Sit back and watch another NFC East team add Lombardi trophies to their display cabinets - as usual.

Serious answer?  What are the Eagles supposed to do now?  They'd have had to give up like 4 1ST rounders (impossible as far as I know) to get up to where the Redskins did.  Remember they only jumped 2 spots, and gave up a kings ransom.  Eagles were sitting at 14 IIRC, maybe 16?

Until the Eagles have another real opportunity to get a premier QB, like the next FA period or the next draft (neither route looking very strong anyway), and blow it again (certainly not impossible), this thread was made soley for the purpose of crying like a little child.

"BU-BU-BU-BUT THEY have a better QB than me!  It's not faaaaaaaaairrr!!!"

Good for the Skins.  I'm a little jealous, but it doesn't make me hate the Eagles more for it.

[SweetlyMiixed]

i think the skins are greatly improving..... don't underestimate them

[Kasanova King]

Bear Grylls, on 22 November 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

Give Vick a running game and a smarter coach, and he'd be completing 70% of his passes too.  We've seen it with him before!

Uhm...considering Vick's only done that under Reid, your statement makes no sense (if it was intended as a shot at Reid).

[vic92353]

Bear Grylls, on 22 November 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

Give Vick a running game and a smarter coach, and he'd be completing 70% of his passes too.  We've seen it with him before!

True,  no one seem to understand this.  Especially the Eagles coaches.  They want Micvhael Vick to stay in the pocket like Brady, Manning does with no running game or O-line whatso ever.  Plesase get rid of those Philly coaches.   Please.

[Sack that QB]

I'll take Foles over RG3. He really hasn't impressed me like Foles has.

[mike030270]

Sack that QB, on 22 November 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

I'll take Foles over RG3. He really hasn't impressed me like Foles has.

Explain please.

[eephraim]

L.E., on 22 November 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

E. Manning
RGIII
Romo
Foles
Vick

NFCE

What about the giants skins and cowboy backups? Shouldnt they be above Vick too?

[LacesOut]

RG3 is so good even my 65 year old mother knows who he is, knows how good he is, and even knew he won the Heisman last year.  And her next words were, 'Da hell is wrong with the Eagles this year? QB maybe??!!'  LOLOL

mike030270, on 22 November 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

Explain please.

Sarcastic post by Sack.

[eephraim]

Sack that QB, on 22 November 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

I'll take Foles over RG3. He really hasn't impressed me like Foles has.

LOLzzz you've been on this for a while. It's amusing keep it up!