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[gsp_birddog]

So I know the organization wants us to believe several guys on this roster are playmakers but really who are they on either side of the ball? I dont see a single guy on defense that is someone you have to account for and game plan for at all. A bunch of average NFL players. Who takes over a game ever on defense and is distruptive?

Then you look at the offensive side of the ball and it is all blanks there too. I used to think a couple years ago we had one of the better WR duo in the league. I was wrong. Nothing special. Desean is easy to take out of the game. Just play a safety deep and he disappears. None of the other top WRs in the league can be eliminated so easily week after week. 4 to 5 catches and 50-60 yard average is not a playmaker in my book. McCoy could be possibly but no chance we ever find out with this coachin staff. If you look at most if not all of the playoff caliber teams they have playmakers on both sides of the ball.

[Eagles3785]

A lot of it is on the coaches...REAL coaches find a way to get their big time players the ball ...If i was coach i'd be coming up with creative ways to get Lesean and Desean the ball on a reg basis, because both of them have the ability to score every time they touch the ball

Defensively we need a big time pass rusher (D Ware type) or a big time ball hawk Safety (Ed Reed in his prime type)  a pass rusher and a safety would be ideal...LB's have potential with Ryans and Kendricks

[LacesOut]

Offense ~ Shady.

Defense ~ LOLOLOL AHAHAHAHAHAAHAAH BAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Shady and Desean are definitely play makers.

On defense, we got old really fast.  Babin and Cole were both play makers.  DRC should be the INT machine in the secondary.

[iluvdaeagles]

Demco is a playmaker

sadly he is surrounded by guys who either cant play or dont care

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iluvdaeagles, on 25 November 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:

Demco is a playmaker

sadly he is surrounded by guys who either cant play or dont care

He's a good player, but not really a play maker.

A play maker is a guy who makes decisive, game defining plays - INTs, FFs, sacks in critical situations.  That's not really Ryans. He comes up with some key tackles, but he doesn't create turnovers or change the momentum of the game.

[cmart102]

The Eagles win!, on 26 November 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

He's a good player, but not really a play maker.

A play maker is a guy who makes decisive, game defining plays - INTs, FFs, sacks in critical situations.  That's not really Ryans. He comes up with some key tackles, but he doesn't create turnovers or change the momentum of the game.

He is a master of the allow the reception but tackle the player short of the sticks on 3rd down, something we haven't seen from a LB here in a while

[jonnyeagles12]

A playmaker can also be getting off the field with key 3rd down tackles, Demeco is a playmaker.

On D: Kendricks has the ability to be a playmaker if we blitzed him more like he did in college. DRC should be a playmaker to, he was at the start of the year.

On O: Not a Vick fan but he is a playmaker. McCoy defo is and Jackson should be in the right offense too. Jason Peters was too, especially in the screen game.

Oh and Allen and Coleman are playmakers.... For the other team....

[time2rock]

The Eagles win!, on 25 November 2012 - 09:20 PM, said:

Shady and Desean are definitely play makers.

On defense, we got old really fast.  Babin and Cole were both play makers.  DRC should be the INT machine in the secondary.

Operative word - "were".

Seems they both aged 10 years in the offseason.

[Marinomanx013]

The offense needs weapons and threats. Big redzone targets who can be redzone threats in the redzone. The defense needs Pro Bowl players. These D needs playmaking playmakers who can make plays for this defense.

^ is all I see when I see threads/articles like this

I know what you mean, though. Trust me.

[nottsfootballfan]

Cox is playing well.

should have had a pick 6 at start of Falcons game though.

[mayanh8]

Hate to admit it but the last playmaker on this team left when Asante was traded to Atlanta. As much as I hated his game that guy was always seemed to come up with INT's on a regular basis.

[Sean Jerz]

Bryce Brown..

[time2rock]

mayanh8, on 26 November 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

Hate to admit it but the last playmaker on this team left when Asante was traded to Atlanta. As much as I hated his game that guy was always seemed to come up with INT's on a regular basis.

Funny thing is, they traded him because he played primarily zone and that no longer fit the man-press scheme they were moving to ... and we're still playing a lot of zone.

[Phila.:chip]

jonnyeagles12, on 26 November 2012 - 06:18 AM, said:

A playmaker can also be getting off the field with key 3rd down tackles, Demeco is a playmaker.

On D: Kendricks has the ability to be a playmaker if we blitzed him more like he did in college. DRC should be a playmaker to, he was at the start of the year.

On O: Not a Vick fan but he is a playmaker. McCoy defo is and Jackson should be in the right offense too. Jason Peters was too, especially in the screen game.

Oh and Allen and Coleman are playmakers.... For the other team....

DRC is not a playmaker; he's been as bad and Nnamdi. It's amazing the pass he gets from fans.

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time2rock, on 26 November 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

Funny thing is, they traded him because he played primarily zone and that no longer fit the man-press scheme they were moving to ... and we're still playing a lot of zone.

That's because neither Nnamdi or DRC can play man-press frequently without getting exposed.

[FanSinceWayBack]

Im happy with Ryans. All this team is until we get some "coaching" is wasted talent and un-used potential. DRC has attributes to be a game changer. Tall, long arms, insane speed, great quickness. I hope he sticks around simply cause he is young.

[mike030270]

Shady and Jackson are huge playmakers when used correctly. I'd say Celek as well but it's hard to say after what he's done this season. He's still a tough guy though.