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#1 o0OMorrisO0o

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:27 AM

Vick was never the freaking problem.  Sure he had a 4 INT game vs the Browns but Romo had a 5 INT game for god sakes.  It happens sometimes.  Vick was never the problem and I always knew it but you people kept at it with the Vick hate.  Now you see Foles...  Has it gotten any better Eagles fans?  No it hasn't.  It's actually gotten even worse.  So as it stands right now what do you do?  Keep Foles next year?  Draft a QB high in the 1st round?  Keep Vick since he is your only sure handed QB?  Personally I would keep Vick and draft a QB high and see what happens.  I know they won't do that but personally that's what I would do.  See if Vick will restructure his contract and keep him as a safety net...

This team from the coaching, to the playcalling, to the OL, to the entire defense, & to the special teams is flaud.  The talent is there and there is no reason why we shouldn't have the players in place to reach the playoffs this season.  I am glad to see a new staff next year though.  Hate Vick all you want but he was NEVER the issue.  Our problems run much deeper!!!  I still think Vick is a top 10 QB in this league.  But this team finds ways to lose rather than ways to win.  Its sad to watch!!!

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:29 AM

draft an offensive line

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:35 AM

As long as we have an ex-lawyer or bean counter as a GM, we won't draft squat.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:41 AM

OH SNAP LMAO

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:43 AM

make no mistake, vick was the freaking problem.

View PostThe_Talon, on 27 November 2012 - 02:29 AM, said:

draft an offensive line
No.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:44 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 27 November 2012 - 02:43 AM, said:

make no mistake, vick was the freaking problem.

No.
so you like watching our offense get murdered? We have the skill players. We need an offensive line. We need a whole new defense.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:45 AM

View PostThe_Talon, on 27 November 2012 - 02:44 AM, said:

so you like watching our offense get murdered? We have the skill players. We need an offensive line. We need a whole new defense.
We have the OL too. are forgetting about peters, todd, and kelce??? smh

i dont like watching our 2 LBs and zero Ss. we need another LB and we need 2 S before an extra body on the OL

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:48 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 27 November 2012 - 02:45 AM, said:

We have the OL too. are forgetting about peters, todd, and kelce??? smh

i dont like watching our 2 LBs and zero Ss. we need another LB and we need 2 S before an extra body on the OL

I can agree with that. Thing is we don't know what Peters will be when he's back. Will he be the same guy? Will the others?

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:49 AM

On one hand, I can respect Vick haters for realizing that after his amazing 10-game stretch, he hasn't done squat.
On the other hand, I hope the Vick haters that hate him because of the dogs get thrown into a cage full of hungry pitbulls.
You won't be a PETA or SPCA freak when those vicious animals are lunching up on your flesh.
I wish I had power like Hitler or Stalin. I would appoint death squads to erase pitbulls from the planet.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:50 AM

View PostThe_Talon, on 27 November 2012 - 02:48 AM, said:

I can agree with that. Thing is we don't know what Peters will be when he's back. Will he be the same guy? Will the others?
peters wont be 100 percent right away but he will still be pretty good. he was/is a freak athletically the other guys will be back just as good.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:10 AM

Vick is a problem. This team is much worse than it was at the beginning of the season but only an imbecile would suggest Vick was absolved from blame at the beginning of the season because of what's happening now.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:16 AM

sure vicks turnovers were a problem but they would have been decreased dramatically if they ran the ball as much as they did tonight

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:17 AM

Vick is old and slow and can't read a defense. Go crush on him somewhere else.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:21 AM

View PostL.E., on 27 November 2012 - 03:17 AM, said:

Vick is old and slow and can't read a defense. Go crush on him somewhere else.


cant read a defense you have no idea what your talking about

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:23 AM

View Postbleedgreen2323, on 27 November 2012 - 03:21 AM, said:

cant read a defense you have no idea what your talking about
he kind of does. how many times have you seen an unblocked player coming right at vick and vick not even knowing he is trhere or that he was coming. do you wear vick pajamas lol

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:32 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 27 November 2012 - 03:23 AM, said:

he kind of does. how many times have you seen an unblocked player coming right at vick and vick not even knowing he is trhere or that he was coming. do you wear vick pajamas lol

how many times have you seen an o lineman not block anyone on a play,sure he misses a slide protection here and there but to say he cant read a defense is untrue, you cant make it in the nfl if you dont know how to read a defense

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:34 AM

View Postbleedgreen2323, on 27 November 2012 - 03:32 AM, said:

how many times have you seen an o lineman not block anyone on a play,sure he misses a slide protection here and there but to say he cant read a defense is untrue, you cant make it in the nfl if you dont know how to read a defense
the point is, he is not good at it.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:35 AM

View Posto0OMorrisO0o, on 27 November 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

Keep Vick since he is your only sure handed QB?  
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:48 AM

View Postbleedgreen2323, on 27 November 2012 - 03:16 AM, said:

sure vicks turnovers were a problem but they would have been decreased dramatically if they ran the ball as much as they did tonight
Not a plus for vick at this point.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:32 AM

I have a silver lining in all this!

Once Vick is gone morris will be too!!!

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:34 AM

Vick was never the problem?  How many fumbles does he have?

How many does Matt Flynn have?

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:37 AM

Ok we went 8-8 with our offensive line healthy last year so what does that tell you? Something is wrong with the QB and the defense... ReLOAD the defense first then reBUILD the offense..

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:47 AM

Vick stinks and Foles isn't any better at this point.

Gonna be a long off season..

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:51 AM

Now do I see? All I see now is straight garbage. The exact same thing I saw since the beginning of the season. Everyone is the problem, we arent a winning product. At this point you have to look at everyone from a team perspective and realize they have all let you down. Lack of leadership, hustle, and motivation and direction from the coaches got us here. Blame everyone, blow it up, start fresh, and be ready for the next 5 or 6 years of losing seasons.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:48 AM

View Postzenclaybourne, on 27 November 2012 - 03:10 AM, said:

Vick is a problem. This team is much worse than it was at the beginning of the season but only an imbecile would suggest Vick was absolved from blame at the beginning of the season because of what's happening now.
At least when Vick was having his issues , he  had a semblance of a defense. Something Foles is definitely lacking. It's bad enough when you have a patch work offensive line, that you have to hope can protect you. But he has no defense either. Vick with all the experience he has couldn't win with this mess. And fans expect Foles to be able to win with an even worse  mess?

Houdini couldn't pull that off.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:50 AM

View PostPerforator, on 27 November 2012 - 04:32 AM, said:

I have a silver lining in all this!

Once Vick is gone morris will be too!!!

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:50 AM

Foles may or may not be the answer - we just don't know yet.  What we do know is Vick certainly is not the answer.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:51 AM

All this is for the next head coach to decide on.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:59 AM

draft oline and D

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:59 AM

95% of the Vick hate has zero to do with actual football.





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