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[CT Eagle]

"The move to release Babin on Tuesday came down to this: Do you keep Babin, who just doesn't fit in for the future and who would have a tough time digesting a demotion, or do you give him a chance to find a job elsewhere?"

Dave, I respect the position you are in and if you aren't able to be candid about everything involving Babbin's release it is understandable.  However, please don't patronize us.  We deserve better at this point.  Clearly there was a bit more to Babbin's release than you alluded too in your article.

[DaveSpadaro]

They want to play the kids. Why keep Babin, who isn't as productive as hoped. What other devious ideas do you have?

[wydok]

DaveSpadaro, on 28 November 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

They want to play the kids. Why keep Babin, who isn't as productive as hoped. What other devious ideas do you have?

Couldn't they just deactivate him and trade him in the offseason?

[MR-CYN]

Why keep Vick? Let's go ahead and get Kafka back in here!

[owensaws]

DaveSpadaro, on 28 November 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

They want to play the kids. Why keep Babin, who isn't as productive as hoped. What other devious ideas do you have?

Uh he insulted fans and was a problem in the locker room and cared more about selling t-shirts through his fan club (what a joke) instead of winning which he never ever has done in the NFL 7 teams all losers

[MR-CYN]

lol @ a Babin "fan club".  

[NOTW]

owensaws, on 28 November 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

Uh he insulted fans and was a problem in the locker room and cared more about selling t-shirts through his fan club (what a joke) instead of winning which he never ever has done in the NFL 7 teams all losers

Those things just made it easier to cut him.  I do believe they wanted to play the younger guys.  They knew they were going to cut Babin after the season anyway.  If you just bench him, he's still on the team and in the locker room and has potential to cause trouble.  Best to get rid of him now.

[CT Eagle]

Babbin wasn't focussed on winning.  He was Tweeting before the game from Novacare and trying to sell his merch.   He wanted to run with the bulls then hurt his calf ( didn't give a crap about the preseason). The guy got his $$$ and once the team started to lose, the guy checked out.  That is why they cut him and I am happy they did.  However, to think that this was just a matter of letting the young guys get more PT isn't telling the whole story.  Why don't they cut Tapp ?

I would rather see Curtis Marsh or Brandon Hughes miss a tackle than see Nnamdi avoid one.  Why don't they cut Nnamdi ?

You didn't tell the whole story which the fans deserve to know at this point.  You could have said "there may have been some other factors which led to Babbin's release but the bottom line is that the Eagles want to give more snaps to Hunt, BG, etc etc.  At least let us read in between the lines.

How do you know he doesn't fit into next years plans given that we have no clue who will be the coach or gm ?
Did Reid make the descision to cut him or did it come from Howie or Lurie ?  Is Reid still making all the final personel descions ?

Throw us a few bones Dave.  We deserve it.

[DC Eagle]

DaveSpadaro, on 28 November 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

They want to play the kids. Why keep Babin, who isn't as productive as hoped. What other devious ideas do you have?

Then why not release Asomugha?

[PoconoDon]

Tumors are usually cut out....just sayin'

[patpikunas]

DaveSpadaro, on 28 November 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

They want to play the kids. Why keep Babin, who isn't as productive as hoped. What other devious ideas do you have?

You know exactly why he was released.... and it has nothing to do with playing "the kids".

There was obviously a lot more to it that the Eagles are choosing to keep internal.

Whtaever... doesn't really matter at this point.

The only release that matters is Andy Reid's... how much longer can Lurie allow this sideshow to go on??

[PoconoDon]

patpikunas, on 28 November 2012 - 02:02 PM, said:

You know exactly why he was released.... and it has nothing to do with playing "the kids".

There was obviously a lot more to it that the Eagles are choosing to keep internal.

Whtaever... doesn't really matter at this point.

The only release that matters is Andy Reid's... how much longer can Lurie allow this sideshow to go on??

Pat,

About 5 more weeks.

[f_dallas]

Yeah, I don't care that they cut him and it doesn't matter given the season is over and he's not likely to be back next year.  However, he was still leading the team in sacks and you don't have to cut the sack leader in order to play other guys in front of him.

The whole rationale just doesn't make sense.  My guess is he was dogging it a little bit, wasn't working out in the locker room, they could save money by releasing him, or some combination of all that (along with his performance).

[MR-CYN]

So who comes in to take the newly opened roster spots?

[Unknownbird]

NOTW, on 28 November 2012 - 11:51 AM, said:

Those things just made it easier to cut him.  I do believe they wanted to play the younger guys.  They knew they were going to cut Babin after the season anyway.  If you just bench him, he's still on the team and in the locker room and has potential to cause trouble.  Best to get rid of him now.

  the same can go for andy and marty! They are still here and things are getting no better, lets cut them two NOW!!!

[CountBlah]

I thought I read somewhere that he was a washburn guy, and acted/treated others like he was above the law of the team, knowing that washburn would have his back and that he could get away with crap.

[eaglepride]

Creep signed with the Jags today

[NOTW]

Unknownbird, on 28 November 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

the same can go for andy and marty! They are still here and things are getting no better, lets cut them two NOW!!!

That's not how it works.  Who the hell would coach the team with Reid, Marty and Juan all gone?  Reid is not just the coach, he's the VP.  And Lurie has said he won't make decisions until after the season.  If Lurie fires Reid, he's going back on his word.

No, let this ship sink and get a higher draft pick.  Keeping Reid will add all these losses to his record and get rid of any doubts that he should be fired.

[badmeetsevil]

Actually this thread made me remember Kafka. Why did we release him? For Trent Edwards? Was he really that bad? Couldn't be worse than Edwards and or Foles.

For that matter why did we go into what was supposed to be a SB or bust season with Foles, a rookie QB, as the primary back up to Vick who we all knew wasn't going to last all 16 games?

Ahh actually forget it. None of it makes any sense. Even if I got answers to this question, ten more pop up.

[LacesOut]

CT Eagle, on 28 November 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

How do you know he doesn't fit into next years plans given that we have no clue who will be the coach or gm ?

Did Reid make the descision to cut him or did it come from Howie or Lurie ?  Is Reid still making all the final personel descions ?

Interesting and good questions.

[LacesOut]

badmeetsevil, on 28 November 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

None of it makes any sense. Even if I got answers to this question, ten more pop up.

Yep.  In hindsight, man o' man, so many mistakes - by the FO and Andy - were made the past two years or so.  With personel, drafting, FA's signed/let go, coaches hired/let go, etc...

[KOJO]

badmeetsevil, on 28 November 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

Actually this thread made me remember Kafka. Why did we release him? For Trent Edwards? Was he really that bad? Couldn't be worse than Edwards and or Foles.

For that matter why did we go into what was supposed to be a SB or bust season with Foles, a rookie QB, as the primary back up to Vick who we all knew wasn't going to last all 16 games?

Ahh actually forget it. None of it makes any sense. Even if I got answers to this question, ten more pop up.

When you find yourself asking why something Reid did doesn't make any sense, pretty safe bet the answer will be Reid.

[CT Eagle]

LacesOut, on 28 November 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

Interesting and good questions.

Which may not be answered...

[Highboy]

badmeetsevil, on 28 November 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

Actually this thread made me remember Kafka. Why did we release him? For Trent Edwards? Was he really that bad? Couldn't be worse than Edwards and or Foles.

For that matter why did we go into what was supposed to be a SB or bust season with Foles, a rookie QB, as the primary back up to Vick who we all knew wasn't going to last all 16 games?

Ahh actually forget it. None of it makes any sense. Even if I got answers to this question, ten more pop up.

There it is really. Nothing they did made sense. Kafka was up and down but I was shocked they just flat cut him given what we had as a starter and as a backup. I thought he'd at least be a competent backup for a game or two and Foles would develop. The whole rationale behind just about everything going on right now is just ridiculous.

[HarborTheClay]

It's a lot like Juan being canned. There's accountability going on, but it's completely random and selective.

Of all the uesless players we have, he's singled out. He must be more useless than what we thought?

Hope this doesn't backfire like the Juan firing...oh, I guess it really can't at this point...

[ckudrick]

HarborTheClay, on 29 November 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

It's a lot like Juan being canned. There's accountability going on, but it's completely random and selective.

Of all the uesless players we have, he's singled out. He must be more useless than what we thought?

Hope this doesn't backfire like the Juan firing...oh, I guess it really can't at this point...

It can't possibly backfire - he was a one trick pony whose one trick was no longer productive, the only coach he's ever had success with is more than likely to get canned, the fans hated his attitude and he had a big contract/cap hit next year (for which we are now off the hook.)

[owensaws]

eaglepride, on 28 November 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

Creep signed with the Jags today

At least get it straight he was claimed by Jags he did not sign -