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#1 Indiana_Eagle

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:21 PM

I don't get to watch many Eagles games living in Indiana. I did get to see the Monday night game. Granted Nnamdi is not a great tackler but is he not worth keeping next year? Personally, I believe that he is the product of a lot of things, which obviously doesn't excuse bad tackling or missed assignment.

1) 2 defensive coordinators who little to no experience at that position.
2) Safeties that are below average or hopefully in Allen's case in the wrong position
3) Lack of communication in the secondary (LaFell  TD)
4) 0 pass rush

I know we spent top dollar on him but can he be effectively replaced with a cheaper option that doesn't set us back even more at that position?

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:28 PM

i dont think hes that bad. the DC seems to want to get pretty with it, just match him up on the WR at the line in press and let him do what it is the he does.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:30 PM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 28 November 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

i dont think hes that bad. the DC seems to want to get pretty with it, just match him up on the WR at the line in press and let him do what it is the he does.

Our new DC next year will realize that's what Nnamdi does best and will do just that!

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:35 PM

He's not playing like he did in Oakland, but he's not as bad as people here think he is either. DRC has been worse but for some reason he's pardoned by many here.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:36 PM

no he isnt as bad

the safeties make him look bad often times

and DRC is horrible

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:38 PM

View Postiluvdaeagles, on 28 November 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

no he isnt as bad

the safeties make him look bad often times

and DRC is horrible
yeah i dont like DRC. he gave up on the team last year and seems to be doing the same this year.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:42 PM

He's not close to as bad as the morons on here make it seem.He is over paid though and im praying he'll restructure.I actually think he might be the best player at tackling we got in the secondary.If we had a DC that actually coached to his players strengths I think Nnamdi would shine.He's also obviously the smartest player on the defense.I seen games where he diagnosed plays and stalled drives pretty much all by himself.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:46 PM

View Postiluvdaeagles, on 28 November 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

no he isnt as bad

the safeties make him look bad often times

and DRC is horrible
I agree on DRC.He looks like he gave it all in the preseason and tired himself out before the regular season.It's a shame really cause with the right leadership and coaching he could be a monster.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:48 PM

View PostEAGLES8690, on 28 November 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

I agree on DRC.He looks like he gave it all in the preseason and tired himself out before the regular season.It's a shame really cause with the right leadership and coaching he could be a monster.
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:49 PM

DRC is actually a worse tackler then asante

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:11 AM

He's our best corner by a landslide and that includes tackling.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:14 AM

View Postiluvdaeagles, on 28 November 2012 - 11:49 PM, said:

DRC is actually a worse tackler then asante
wouldn't go that far. If you have been catching any Falcons highlights every time there's a long run against them it's to Samuel's side and he was typically unblocked. The best one is the Ivory TD. Totally pathetic out there.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:21 AM

he's not that bad but he certainly isn't living up to expectations, monetarily or performance-wise. I hope he's willing to re-structure next year, but then again, he may be begging to get out of here if we don't have the right coaching in place.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:22 AM

View PostPegger, on 29 November 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

wouldn't go that far. If you have been catching any Falcons highlights every time there's a long run against them it's to Samuel's side and he was typically unblocked. The best one is the Ivory TD. Totally pathetic out there.
still u see asante throwing his shoulder into people u dont even get that with DRC. asante is waty better tackling then DRC.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:35 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 29 November 2012 - 12:22 AM, said:

still u see asante throwing his shoulder into people u dont even get that with DRC. asante is waty better tackling then DRC.
saying Asante is a better tackler is like saying the second last sprinter in the special Olympics was waaaaaay better than the last guy.

Lets just agree that they both suck at tackling?

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:40 AM

View PostPegger, on 29 November 2012 - 12:35 AM, said:

saying Asante is a better tackler is like saying the second last sprinter in the special Olympics was waaaaaay better than the last guy.

Lets just agree that they both suck at tackling?
i was just emphasizing just how bad DRC is, asante isnt good by any means, but he will give up his body, cant say the same about DRC, that last falcon game asante had a hurt shoulder and was still throwing himself infront of people. but yeah they both suck DRC just sucks more

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:47 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 29 November 2012 - 12:40 AM, said:

i was just emphasizing just how bad DRC is, asante isnt good by any means, but he will give up his body, cant say the same about DRC, that last falcon game asante had a hurt shoulder and was still throwing himself infront of people. but yeah they both suck DRC just sucks more
We are getting the retarded sprinter argument. Throwing you shoulder is a horrible way to tackle. You fully commit and if they move slightly not only do you whiff, but you can't even recover.

I think they are both about the same type of corner. Neither can play the slot, blitz or tackle. Samuel is better in off coverage and DRC better in bump n run, but either way they are both one trick ponies.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:51 AM

View PostPegger, on 29 November 2012 - 12:47 AM, said:

We are getting the retarded sprinter argument. Throwing you shoulder is a horrible way to tackle. You fully commit and if they move slightly not only do you whiff, but you can't even recover.

I think they are both about the same type of corner. Neither can play the slot, blitz or tackle. Samuel is better in off coverage and DRC better in bump n run, but either way they are both one trick ponies.
IM SAYING ITS BETTER THEN WHAT DRC DOES!!!! THAT IS ALL!!! ARGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 01:01 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 29 November 2012 - 12:51 AM, said:

IM SAYING ITS BETTER THEN WHAT DRC DOES!!!! THAT IS ALL!!! ARGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!
so his missed tackle is better than DRCs. Got it!

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 01:03 AM

View PostPegger, on 29 November 2012 - 01:01 AM, said:

so his missed tackle is better than DRCs. Got it!
yeah at least he makes contact and slows'em down for the backside pursuit, DRC plays scared.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 01:04 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 29 November 2012 - 01:03 AM, said:

yeah at least he makes contact and slows'em down for the backside pursuit, DRC plays scared.
id take Sheldon Brown over both of them.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 01:11 AM

View PostPegger, on 29 November 2012 - 01:04 AM, said:

id take Sheldon Brown over both of them.
not anymore i wouldnt. id switch back to asante this very second if we could.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 01:42 AM

Nnamdi will be a Redskin next year.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:41 AM

I am disappointed in Nnamdis tackling this year.  I also dont think he has good deep ball skills at all.  


Wasnt Michael Huff at safety when Nnamdi was getting all the FA hype?  I think Huff (or whoever the safety in OAK was) is underrated, and Nnamdi was obviously overrated.


I also think he could benefit from  a more effective pass rushing effort then we've been getting since the last win.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:44 AM

I still don't believe Nnamdi is being used the way he was in Oakland. Yeah he's been shadowing the opposition's top receiver and he's been showing flashes of what happened in Oakland, but he's not being used in that press capacity. There are times where he'd be expecting safety help on plays but it's not there because Coleman and Allen bite on every thing and that leads to big plays down the field. Now let's get this straight, Nnamdi's responsible for things that are his own fault. He's not being absolved of any blame for anything that's happened but I don't believe he's as bad as he's been made out to be.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:55 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 28 November 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

i dont think hes that bad. the DC seems to want to get pretty with it, just match him up on the WR at the line in press and let him do what it is the he does.



That's why he was so good in Oakland.  That's the way they used him there.  :mellow2:

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:00 AM

View PostPegger, on 29 November 2012 - 01:04 AM, said:

id take Sheldon Brown over both of them.
and i would take 22 over 23

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:13 AM

Talked to one of my friends on the team about Nnamdi being bad.  He said, he never was that good, people in Philly just never really got the chance to see him play when he was in Oakland.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:21 AM

View Postterilyns, on 29 November 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

Talked to one of my friends on the team about Nnamdi being bad.  He said, he never was that good, people in Philly just never really got the chance to see him play when he was in Oakland.

so did the people who paid top dollar for him never get to see him play either....

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:39 AM

Nnamdi is a beat, but his game isn't to be left on an island to cover a WR for 5-8 seconds if the pressure doesn't get there.  Coleman has been horrid at S, he's made Nnamdi look horrid.  
Don't get me wrong this isn't Nnamdi's best year, but I think he's playing pretty good.




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