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[vox populi]

All you have to do is watch tonight's game. This is what real talented football players look like. They play with heart, passion, intensity, smarts, and toughness. Not like the wimpy quitters on this Eagles team.

These Eagles players are nothing but blowhards. Always running their mouths and blaming everything except their own ineptitude. I rarely use the word hate, but I hate these current Eagles players. It would make me happy if by 2014 or 15, every single one of the current roster are gone. All of them.

I want to see a complete roster turnover. And am willing to accept three years of losing if the team is moving forward without any of these current bums. Losing is a contagious disease without a cure. Only thing you can do is cut off the limbs.

[iluvdaeagles]

got it now

thanks for the explanation

[Uncle Russ]

"They play with heart, passion, intensity, smarts, and toughness". That has nothing to do with talent, the things you name are mental things. This team has crazy physically talented player. Your points aren't valid. THIS TEAM IS TALENTED, Just not mentally tough.

[vox populi]

Uncle Russ, on 29 November 2012 - 11:38 PM, said:

"They play with heart, passion, intensity, smarts, and toughness". That has nothing to do with talent, the things you name are mental things. This team has crazy physically talented player. Your points aren't valid. THIS TEAMS IS TALENTED, Just not mentally tough.

You have a lot to learn. Stop listening to pravda style hype from the official website. Use your own eyes and stop letting others (like Spadaro) do your thinking for you. No. They are not talented. Not even a little bit. They are the least talented team in the NFL, by far, except for running back.

I have seen a lot of bad 70's Eagles teams. These guys are worse than any of them. Might be the least talented team in Eagles history. Whoever assembled this crop of bums (if it wasn't Andy) needs to be shown the door along with Reid.

For example. You probably think that Mychal Kendricks is talented. He isn't. The latest example of overhyped nonsense. He flew around against vanilla pre-season offenses. When the live bullets started to fly, he got manhandled. Week in. Week out. Use your eyes.

[BillTheButcher]

ok so u want shady gone. yup u dumb.

[iluvdaeagles]

dumb them all but shady

fletcher cox that guy sucks
demco ryans that guy sucks
desean jackson that guy sucks
jason peters he sucks
alex henry sucks!

[mwz1970]

vox populi, on 30 November 2012 - 12:05 AM, said:

You have a lot to learn. Stop listening to pravda style hype from the official website. Use your own eyes and stop letting others (like Spadaro) do your thinking for you. No. They are not talented. Not even a little bit. They are the least talented team in the NFL, by far, except for running back.

I have seen a lot of bad 70's Eagles teams. These guys are worse than any of them. Might be the least talented team in Eagles history. Whoever assembled this crop of bums (if it wasn't Andy) needs to be shown the door along with Reid.

For example. You probably think that Mychal Kendricks is talented. He isn't. The latest example of overhyped nonsense. He flew around against vanilla pre-season offenses. When the live bullets started to fly, he got manhandled. Week in. Week out. Use your eyes.

kendricks is being used at sam, instead of will. square peg round hole as usual.

[phonz3]

vox populi, on 30 November 2012 - 12:05 AM, said:

You have a lot to learn. Stop listening to pravda style hype from the official website. Use your own eyes and stop letting others (like Spadaro) do your thinking for you. No. They are not talented. Not even a little bit. They are the least talented team in the NFL, by far, except for running back.

I have seen a lot of bad 70's Eagles teams. These guys are worse than any of them. Might be the least talented team in Eagles history. Whoever assembled this crop of bums (if it wasn't Andy) needs to be shown the door along with Reid.

For example. You probably think that Mychal Kendricks is talented. He isn't. The latest example of overhyped nonsense. He flew around against vanilla pre-season offenses. When the live bullets started to fly, he got manhandled. Week in. Week out. Use your eyes.

Take it easy dude... Kendricks is a rookie.  He will get better.

[Shane-O]

to say this may be the least talented eagles team is prob an exaggeration, stop making excuses.  They are undisciplined unmotivated and just plain disappointing.

[wvjerome]

I love the argument: "The players around Mike Vick suck so that's why we are bad", and the next sentence they say "bring him back so we can win the super bowl." The truth is the Eagles aren't talented enough right now to win a Super Bowl. Defensively they haven't had any major injuries and right now they may be the worst defense in football. Even Cam Newton went off on them. The offensive line has been a mess and the defensive line rarely gets pressure on the quarterback. As Madden used to say "It all starts up front...." Right now this team has too many holes to compete for a Super Bowl. On top of that the team will most likely make several changes to the roster and coaching staff. It may take some time before this is turned around.

[biglou22]

vox populi, on 29 November 2012 - 11:24 PM, said:

All you have to do is watch tonight's game. This is what real talented football players look like. They play with heart, passion, intensity, smarts, and toughness. Not like the wimpy quitters on this Eagles team.

These Eagles players are nothing but blowhards. Always running their mouths and blaming everything except their own ineptitude. I rarely use the word hate, but I hate these current Eagles players. It would make me happy if by 2014 or 15, every single one of the current roster are gone. All of them.

I want to see a complete roster turnover. And am willing to accept three years of losing if the team is moving forward without any of these current bums. Losing is a contagious disease without a cure. Only thing you can do is cut off the limbs.

Are you kidding me ??? That game was a friggen debacle.
The Saints defense might be worse then the Eagles. And the Falcons went almost the entire game before they could finally convert a 3rd down.
Sorry. But I think the entire league sucks. The Falcons might be the worst 11-1 team I have ever seen.
I know all that matters is to get THE WIN. But my god some of their wins have been ugly.

In beating the hapless Chiefs they give up 400yds of offense to that mess of a team
They beat the Panthers by 2 points as the Panthers gave the game away and ran up over 400yds of offense.
They sneak by the Raider,,, a team that might actually be worse then the Eagles,,, by 3 stinking points and give up almost 500yds of offense to them. 500 yds !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously ??
Then in back to back games they get lucky that 2 lousy teams (the Cards and Bucs) decide to be idiots down the stretch and allow the Falcons to sneak out a 1 point win and a 4 point win.

Are they 11-1 ?? Yes.
A team that has somehow found a way to win ??? Yes. And i give them lots of credit for that.
A good defensive team ?? Hardly.
A team with many holes ?? Absolutely.
Your typical 11-1 team ?? Not close.

And I fully understand that you can only play who is on your schedule. But my god. What a schedule.

1-10 Chiefs
3-8 Panthers
3-8 Raiders
3-8 Eagles
4-7 Cards
4-7 Chargers5-6 Saints
5-6 Cowboys
5-6 Redskins
6-5 Bucs
8-3 Broncos

Again. They are 11-1. But boy this resembles their 13-3 year when they had that great record because they had the weakest schedule in the league then got to the playoffs and got smoked.
Now the 1 thing in their favor this year as compared to that year is the rest of the league sucks. So I'm not sure any team in the playoffs is any good.
The playoff teams will be there this year by default. They will simply be teams that aren't as bad as the other teams. Not becuase they are so much superior.

[Perforator]

biglou22, on 30 November 2012 - 07:41 AM, said:

Again. They are 11-1. But boy this resembles their 13-3 year when they had that great record because they had the weakest schedule in the league then got to the playoffs and got smoked.

Lou, you can't play both sides of the coin. When the Eagles go 11-5 and lose in the first round you say they were competitive and you enjoyed the year. The Falcons go 11-1 and you say, oh the league sucks. Come on man.

[Uncle Russ]

vox populi, on 30 November 2012 - 12:05 AM, said:

You have a lot to learn. Stop listening to pravda style hype from the official website. Use your own eyes and stop letting others (like Spadaro) do your thinking for you. No. They are not talented. Not even a little bit. They are the least talented team in the NFL, by far, except for running back.

I have seen a lot of bad 70's Eagles teams. These guys are worse than any of them. Might be the least talented team in Eagles history. Whoever assembled this crop of bums (if it wasn't Andy) needs to be shown the door along with Reid.

For example. You probably think that Mychal Kendricks is talented. He isn't. The latest example of overhyped nonsense. He flew around against vanilla pre-season offenses. When the live bullets started to fly, he got manhandled. Week in. Week out. Use your eyes.

I dont listen to the "official website". Im going off what I see when I watch the games:

LeSean McCoy probably 1a or 1b "the best running back in the league" along with Ray Rice.
DRC probably the most physically gifted corner in the league
Flecher Cox is good
Celek is a good possession tight end
DeSean Jackson can blow the top off a defense, very explosive. Never get to see that because the O-Line cant block that long
Maclin is talented
We just found out how talented Bryce Brown really is
etc.(This list could keep going)

Im not saying every area on the field is talented:

The safeties are garbage
The O-Line is garbage
D-Line isnt getting pressure THIS YEAR!

So with a coaching staff turnover and some good drafting the PHILADELPHIA EAGLES will be just as good as anybody.

[Eagles3785]

OP is stupid

You don't get rid of everyone, you build around the talent you got

Shady is a first team RB

You are a complete moron if you think you are going to find 53 choir boys who are high character guys......

[NoDecaf]

This.

Uncle Russ, on 29 November 2012 - 11:38 PM, said:

"They play with heart, passion, intensity, smarts, and toughness". That has nothing to do with talent, the things you name are mental things. This team has crazy physically talented player. Your points aren't valid. THIS TEAMS IS TALENTED, Just not mentally tough.

[FloridaBill]

BillTheButcher, on 30 November 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

ok so u want shady gone. yup u dumb.

And your stupid if you don't realize his trade potential, Byrce Brown will end up being better. Quit reading and listening to all the garbage hype. McCoy got his contract and ran soft this year. This team needs a lot of new talen, but dopes like you want to keep McCoy arond for a 5 year rebuilding process which when this team is ready to make a run....McCoy will be toast.

[Eagles3785]

FloridaBill, on 30 November 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

And your stupid if you don't realize his trade potential, Byrce Brown will end up being better. Quit reading and listening to all the garbage hype. McCoy got his contract and ran soft this year. This team needs a lot of new talen, but dopes like you want to keep McCoy arond for a 5 year rebuilding process which when this team is ready to make a run....McCoy will be toast.

If he fumbles twice a game...that isn't exactly better

[BillTheButcher]

FloridaBill, on 30 November 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

And your stupid if you don't realize his trade potential, Byrce Brown will end up being better. Quit reading and listening to all the garbage hype. McCoy got his contract and ran soft this year. This team needs a lot of new talen, but dopes like you want to keep McCoy arond for a 5 year rebuilding process which when this team is ready to make a run....McCoy will be toast.

wow. words can not describe how Fing stupid you are. seriously. totally thinking u might be the 1st person i put on ignore.

[FootballGod]

I think people confuse the word "athletic" with "talented". If there was a track & field event, the Eagles would be competitive with the other teams in the NFL. Problem is speed is not the only requirement to being a good football player. The skills of blocking, tackling, and instincts are lacking, thus they are not a talented team.

[biglou22]

Perforator, on 30 November 2012 - 09:17 AM, said:

Lou, you can't play both sides of the coin. When the Eagles go 11-5 and lose in the first round you say they were competitive and you enjoyed the year. The Falcons go 11-1 and you say, oh the league sucks. Come on man.

Here is the BIG difference.
Not only did the Eagles have 1 of the better records in the league for many many years, they also WON in the playoffs MOST years.
To date, not only have the Falcons only had a top record a couple of times, but they have yet to win a friggen playoff game.
Major major major difference.

Add for anyone that thinks that this product that the NFL is throwing out there over the last 4-5 years is anything close to what the NFL used to be is crazy.
It's a complete disgrace. To me it has basically become unwatchable. Bad enough that after well over a decade of having The Sunday ticket, I will not be getting it next year.

For all those years I have watched almost every single play by every single team from every single game. And currently the NFL is NOT CLOSE to what it used to be.
Now granted, it didn't just happen this year. This has been a slow process over the last 4-5 years.
What will it take to change ??? I have no clue.
But think about these things......................
**Literally the most popular guy in the league is a guy that can't play. Tim Tebow.
**A guy like J.Babin who is a complete liability on the field for 90% of the plays was on the friggen Pro Bowl team last year and MANY fans actually thought he deserved it. You have got to be kidding.
**A guy like A.Spencer, who is an average player at best actually got the Franchise tag this year.
**Every team has players like C.Coleman starting. And some are much worse. Seriously. And I'm supposed to except that ??
**After every non catch by a WR he screams at the refs for a friggen pass int. Or the moron head coach is ranting a raving on the sidelines like some little kid that didn't get his candy bar.
**And sadly, if fans wouldn't have known that there were replacement officials they wouldn't have even known since the regulars  are just as bad.

I could go on and on and on.
I would rather go watch high school and college then the crap I'm watching now.

[Perforator]

biglou22, on 30 November 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

Here is the BIG difference.
Not only did the Eagles have 1 of the better records in the league for many many years, they also WON in the playoffs MOST years.
To date, not only have the Falcons only had a top record a couple of times, but they have yet to win a friggen playoff game.
Major major major difference.

Lou, you're talking out your pie hole. Every time someone mentioned the fact that Andy Reid did not win the Super Bowl you spouted about their regular season accomplishments. You can't play both sides of the table without sounding like a donkey which is what you are sounding like now.

[EagleVA]

Uncle Russ, on 29 November 2012 - 11:38 PM, said:

THIS TEAM IS TALENTED, Just not mentally tough coached worth a damn.

FIXED!!!

[Blindgreed1]

biglou22, on 30 November 2012 - 07:41 AM, said:

Are you kidding me ??? That game was a friggen debacle.
The Saints defense might be worse then the Eagles. And the Falcons went almost the entire game before they could finally convert a 3rd down.
Sorry. But I think the entire league sucks. The Falcons might be the worst 11-1 team I have ever seen.
I know all that matters is to get THE WIN. But my god some of their wins have been ugly.

In beating the hapless Chiefs they give up 400yds of offense to that mess of a team
They beat the Panthers by 2 points as the Panthers gave the game away and ran up over 400yds of offense.
They sneak by the Raider,,, a team that might actually be worse then the Eagles,,, by 3 stinking points and give up almost 500yds of offense to them. 500 yds !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously ??
Then in back to back games they get lucky that 2 lousy teams (the Cards and Bucs) decide to be idiots down the stretch and allow the Falcons to sneak out a 1 point win and a 4 point win.

Are they 11-1 ?? Yes.
A team that has somehow found a way to win ??? Yes. And i give them lots of credit for that.
A good defensive team ?? Hardly.
A team with many holes ?? Absolutely.
Your typical 11-1 team ?? Not close.

And I fully understand that you can only play who is on your schedule. But my god. What a schedule.

1-10 Chiefs
3-8 Panthers
3-8 Raiders
3-8 Eagles
4-7 Cards
4-7 Chargers5-6 Saints
5-6 Cowboys
5-6 Redskins
6-5 Bucs
8-3 Broncos

Again. They are 11-1. But boy this resembles their 13-3 year when they had that great record because they had the weakest schedule in the league then got to the playoffs and got smoked.
Now the 1 thing in their favor this year as compared to that year is the rest of the league sucks. So I'm not sure any team in the playoffs is any good.
The playoff teams will be there this year by default. They will simply be teams that aren't as bad as the other teams. Not becuase they are so much superior.

Why on earth would you bring logic to the table in a conversation like this?

[biglou22]

Perforator, on 30 November 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

Lou, you're talking out your pie hole. Every time someone mentioned the fact that Andy Reid did not win the Super Bowl you spouted about their regular season accomplishments. You can't play both sides of the table without sounding like a donkey which is what you are sounding like now.

NOPE. Dead wrong.
What I spouted about was Reid...........
**winning all those regular season wins
**winning the division all those times
**winning in the playoffs all those years
**getting to FIVE NFCCGs
**getting to a SB
**rebuilding the team on 2 separate occasions and STILL winning.
All things that very few teams have been able to do since free agency and the salary cap era in the mid 90s took over the league.

Remember I have said forever that just because you win a SB doesn't make you a great coach nor does not winning a SB make you a bad coach.
Hell, D.Shula didn't win a SB for 22 straight years after his last SB win. Did he all of a sudden become a bad coach ?? Hardly.
Bill Parcells won a lousy 2 playoff games in his final 12 years coaching in the NFL. Does that mean he all of a sudden sucked as a coach ?? Hardly.
In T.Landry's final 12 years he was knocked out of the playoffs in the 1st rd 3 times and never made it back to a SB. Does that mean he all of a sudden became a bad coach ??? hardly.

Now, have the last 2 years been a complete debacle ??? You bet.
But you can't just throw away the success of the prior success he had from 2000 - 2010.
And you people seem to think that what he did in those prior 12 years was a common occurrence in the NFL.  When in the fact what Reid did was very rare in this age of free agency and salary cap.

[SNOORDA]

I liked biglou's post. So true about the falcons and fankly, the only really scary and complete team is the 9ers. They are flat out dominate most of the time and talented across the board. Everyone else has many weaknesses. You have denver in the afc and they are a solid team and with manning playing the way he is I'm calling a 9ers vs broncos super bowl.

[Perforator]

biglou22, on 30 November 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

And you people seem to think that what he did in those prior 12 years was a common occurrence in the NFL.  When in the fact what Reid did was very rare in this age of free agency and salary cap.

Now you see Lou, I'll shoot it right back at you. All those regular season wins and division championships didn't mean squat because of the competition. (Sound familiar?)

[biglou22]

vox populi, on 30 November 2012 - 12:05 AM, said:

You have a lot to learn. Stop listening to pravda style hype from the official website. Use your own eyes and stop letting others (like Spadaro) do your thinking for you. No. They are not talented. Not even a little bit. They are the least talented team in the NFL, by far, except for running back.

I have seen a lot of bad 70's Eagles teams. These guys are worse than any of them. Might be the least talented team in Eagles history. Whoever assembled this crop of bums (if it wasn't Andy) needs to be shown the door along with Reid.

For example. You probably think that Mychal Kendricks is talented. He isn't. The latest example of overhyped nonsense. He flew around against vanilla pre-season offenses. When the live bullets started to fly, he got manhandled. Week in. Week out. Use your eyes.

Sorry. You must have a bad memory. Some of those teams in the 60's, 70's 80's and 90's had worse talent then this team.
Not even close.
Especially the 60's and 70's.

[Runtherock]

Oh heck, let's keep Curry. Eagle fan. plays hard, not a punk.

[WestPaEaglesNest]

Poorly coached team.  Has been for a while.  I guess all of the pundants saying this was a very talented team were all wrong.  Reid is the most overrated coach in league history.

[shawnm]

Plenty of talent on this team. Poor coaching. Did the 49ers lack talent before Harbaugh got there? It's almost the exact same team. This team has far more talent than the 2010 Eagles team that made the playoffs, though it doesn't seen like it right now, especially since we have something like 8 starters injured.