45 replies to this topic

[Arthur Spooner]

I want to clean house!....even Howie.

Why does Lurie think he is some special talent? He has no NFL experience and his drafts suck.  I'm so worried about the future of the Eagles if this clown remains the GM.

[EagleDomination]

We need to bring in Bill Polian.

[terilyns]

What do you mean going to?

[Eagles Finest]

Lol he already has.

[Phila.:chip]

Boy wonder needs to just handle the contracts. The Eagles need to hire a football guy, that's seasoned in evaluating talent, and call him the Executive Vice President of Football Operations; give him final say in all personal decisions which will essentially make him the de facto general manager. This is how it was with Andy, except this time the HC won't also be the Executive Vice President.

[SamEaglesFan]

You mean more?!?

That horse has left the barn already, sadly.

[SilverChaosVII]

terilyns, on 30 November 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

What do you mean going to?

Beat me to it.

[ryguy552]

terilyns, on 30 November 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

What do you mean going to?

As much as Howie has missed on some things you have to give him credit for this past years draft. Cox looks like a player as does Kendricks, Curry is going to be a good pass rusher for years to come, and Boykin is probably our slot corner for a long time, and Bryce Brown was a huge hit in the 7th round. Foles is still a bit of a question mark but he did a pretty good job in this years draft.

[Pegger]

Anyone else get scared that Arthur Spooner is going to F up this message board?

[Eagles Finest]

I miss Tom Heckert. With Holmgren gone, Heckert's future in Cleveland may be in jeopardy.

[Phila.:chip]

terilyns, on 30 November 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

What do you mean going to?

Eagles Finest, on 30 November 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

Lol he already has.

Why does everyone assume that Howie is the one calling the shots ? Yes, he's the GM, but the GM (even when Heckard was here) was never a GM in the traditional sense. The GM runs the team, has final say in personnel decisions, and is above the coach in the chain of command. With the Eagles the Executive Vice President of Football Operations fills that role, and now that role is Andy's role. When he's gone, that position needs to be filled.

[Baynit]

terilyns, on 30 November 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

What do you mean going to?

Yea I thought the same thing when I read the title, was going to say as much but seen your post.

[hawkeye]

ryguy552, on 30 November 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

As much as Howie has missed on some things you have to give him credit for this past years draft. Cox looks like a player as does Kendricks, Curry is going to be a good pass rusher for years to come, and Boykin is probably our slot corner for a long time, and Bryce Brown was a huge hit in the 7th round. Foles is still a bit of a question mark but he did a pretty good job in this years draft.

Great point. The Eagles had a strong draft this year which is overshadowed by poor drafts in previous years and, of course, the debacle that this season became.

[vic92353]

terilyns, on 30 November 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

What do you mean going to?

You beat me to it.  This team is ALREADY F'ed up.  And that's for years to come.  

[mayanh8]

Look... if you added up IQ scores of Stephen Hawking, Albert Einstein, and mayanh8, you still wouldn't be close to Jeffrey Lurie's. He is smarter than all of us. Remember that.

#goldstandard

[Vee]

Look.  No one knows what the team has here until the new coaching regime comes in.

It's altogether possible that a coach comes in here and sets up an offense/defense that the players already here can succeed.  Of course there will be some bloodletting, but you can't possibly make an educated decision on a player based on a coach/system that has two feet already out the door.

I'm not calling for any player's head around here until the next coach signs up for some Brotherly Love.

Everything I just posted goes out the window if Gruden comes here.  He'll make sure all the talent is gone and gets backfilled with old lazy veterans who don't want to play anymore.

[dawk1977]

I could live with roseman.  Just not the coaching staff.  Roseman has made some  pretty good moves.  It is just not translating on the field because of coaching.  He doesn't out think the room like much of andys career.  The only question I had was the OLineman in the 5th over wr.  But seeing how our season played out that was probably smart.  Roseman is very agressive.  Now I hated the first round fireman last year ahead of gabe.  But from what I understand gabe(chicago) is just serviceable.

[AmericanEagle77]

hawkeye, on 30 November 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

Great point. The Eagles had a strong draft this year which is overshadowed by poor drafts in previous years and, of course, the debacle that this season became.

Stupid to think he was going to come from being a Lawyer to a GM seamlessly. That's not his fault, and whoever hired him, if they had any brains, would know that. Which is why he still has his job today. Thanks, come again.

[No1BirdsFan]

howie blows and is a (nepotism appointed) underqualified piece of garbage... and if he's back...i'm gone....

[macgregor]

  The guy was hired to be a brain that could help Reid evaluate players. Not make the decisions. No one has one shred of evidence on whether the busts we've had are Andy's or Howie's guys except that you all do know that Reid's head is hard as a hammer and at times, has about as much capacity for reason. Watkins who looks like the Andy Reid version of 'mini me' (perhaps not so mini) somehow was Howie's pick. I'm not saying it's impossible for Roseman to negatively affect our talent evaluations -and 2012 was pretty good, but there's zero evidence.

[birdman]

scared?

the damage is already done....

4.MORE.YEARS.

[Caribbean Soul]

EagleDomination, on 30 November 2012 - 01:08 PM, said:

We need to bring in Bill Polian.

This

And, Lurie needs to bring him in now.  He can start player/coach evaluations and tell Howie what to do next.

This whole franchise is in FUBAR mode right now.

[johncp]

YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[[TSM]_PimpDaddyPain]

ryguy552, on 30 November 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

As much as Howie has missed on some things you have to give him credit for this past years draft. Cox looks like a player as does Kendricks, Curry is going to be a good pass rusher for years to come, and Boykin is probably our slot corner for a long time, and Bryce Brown was a huge hit in the 7th round. Foles is still a bit of a question mark but he did a pretty good job in this years draft.

so one allegedly decent draft out of three is good enough?

[IggleWalt]

Phila.:chip, on 30 November 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

Why does everyone assume that Howie is the one calling the shots ? Yes, he's the GM, but the GM (even when Heckard was here) was never a GM in the traditional sense. The GM runs the team, has final say in personnel decisions, and is above the coach in the chain of command. With the Eagles the Executive Vice President of Football Operations fills that role, and now that role is Andy's role. When he's gone, that position needs to be filled.

The idiots on this board don't get that in the chain of command VPFO>GM.

birdman, on 30 November 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

scared?

the damage is already done....

4.MORE.YEARS.

Nobody here cares about your hard-on for Obama.

[eagle45]

Is going to?  He already has.  Go through a list of every single draft pick and FA signing since he took over.  Absolutely hideous.

[Netherscourge]

Eagles Finest, on 30 November 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

Lol he already has.

Those first two drafts Howie ran killed this team for the next 4 years.

[9thPassyunk]

What qualifications does Howie have to watch game tape and evaluate a Player? Where/when/how did he obtain this experience?

You need to hire back Marc Ross and allow him to hire the new Coach and rebuild the Scouting Dept.

Roseman is also accountable for this mess and needs to be let go to rid all semblance of the Reid era.

[E2k4]

Its already pretty f'ed up...what else could go wrong?

[pgcd3]

The team is already messed up. I'm worried Lurie will remain in loser denial and keep Roseman around another 3 lost years