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[pgcd3]

I always liked Nolan and wanted him as DC. He's exactly the type of guy who builds off his first failed experience as HC and does better the next time.

[Solomon]

I would not be opposed to Nolan at all, it would also mean we're likely staying with the 4-3, which I believe is best.

[time2rock]

I also think he'd make a fine candidate.  But for some reason, I get the feeling Howie and Jeff are going to go after another offense-orientated HC.

[michaels maniacs]

no thanks

give me chip kelly

[pgcd3]

 time2rock, on 01 December 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

I also think he'd make a fine candidate.  But for some reason, I get the feeling Howie and Jeff are going to go after another offense-orientated HC.

The Falcons OC Knapp doesn't interest me. Too many weapons that are all on the same page for 1 year. That's not a track record it's a season where all goes well. Same for most of the other OCs. And I'd rather keep Andy then go with Kyle Shanahan I think that little of him

[zenclaybourne]

 pgcd3, on 01 December 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

The Falcons OC Knapp doesn't interest me. Too many weapons that are all on the same page for 1 year. That's not a track record it's a season where all goes well. Same for most of the other OCs. And I'd rather keep Andy then go with Kyle Shanahan I think that little of him

I absolutely agree with that.

[ShakeThatMonkey]

Yea i think Nolan is a pretty decent coach. He'd be a nice fit but I really don't think it's a good idea for Lurie to get another offensive minded HC.

[pgcd3]

I agree I'd rather get a defensive minded coach. They will probably clean house in Cleveland so a new defensive HC could always bring Shurmur or Childress in on Offense and run a similar system if so desired

[ryguy552]

They aren't bringing in a defensive minded head coach. It's already out there they are looking for an offensive minded guy. Get that thought out of your heads.

[pgcd3]

It's out there from who? A bunch of reporters who never seem to have any real inside knowledge at all. That's just blind speculation

[AceofSpades]

I'd always thought Nolan was a really good defensive coordinator. Who knows, maybe he could get another HC job and turn his career around like Belichick or some others have done with other chances. I think what Nolan has to do this time is surround himself with much better coaches and with smarter personnel. He's gotta realize that he can't be the boss. He can't be the guy to make all the decisions. He's gotta be able to have other people on staff and to trust them with decisions. I think that's why he failed in San Francisco. He got his shot at being the guy and didn't really trust anybody else's decisions.

 ryguy552, on 01 December 2012 - 11:57 PM, said:

They aren't bringing in a defensive minded head coach. It's already out there they are looking for an offensive minded guy. Get that thought out of your heads.

Based on what? Who says's they're not bringing in a defensive minded head coach? 1 report says they're talking to Chip Kelly? Ok let's play that game and say the report is true, there's a thing called due diligence.

[time2rock]

 pgcd3, on 01 December 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

The Falcons OC Knapp doesn't interest me. Too many weapons that are all on the same page for 1 year. That's not a track record it's a season where all goes well. Same for most of the other OCs. And I'd rather keep Andy then go with Kyle Shanahan I think that little of him

Koetter is the OC in Atlanta (Knapp I believe is in Oakland).  

Definitely agree with Shanahan - he's one of the few that I consider an even bigger moron than Marty.

I don't have any strong interest in any of the OCs in the league.  I just have a feeling this is the direction Lurie and Howie will want to go.  Nothing to base that on other than gut feeling.

I just hope that if we do go that route, we hire someone who has a proven track record with developing QBs.

[pgcd3]

 time2rock, on 02 December 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:

Koetter is the OC in Atlanta (Knapp I believe is in Oakland).  

Definitely agree with Shanahan - he's one of the few that I consider an even bigger moron than Marty.

I don't have any strong interest in any of the OCs in the league.  I just have a feeling this is the direction Lurie and Howie will want to go.  Nothing to base that on other than gut feeling.

I just hope that if we do go that route, we hire someone who has a proven track record with developing QBs.

You are correct. I meant Koetter.

Andy and Marty supposedly have a proven track record of developing QBs but if you look at the results Donovan is the only one who became a good NFL starter.

[Fireboy]

Chip Kelly HC, Rex Ryan DC

[gibsonplyer]

IDk I'd rather not go with a guy who already failed as a HC.  I like the OC and DC from San Fran and the OC from Denver.  Kelly is interesting as well.

[pgcd3]

 gibsonplyer, on 02 December 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

IDk I'd rather not go with a guy who already failed as a HC.  I like the OC and DC from San Fran and the OC from Denver.  Kelly is interesting as well.

A lot of SB winning coaches were in their second stint (Bellichik, Coughlin, Shanahan, Gruden, Dungy to name a few). I think it might even be a majority. That's why I'm more interested in a second stint guy

[AceofSpades]

 pgcd3, on 02 December 2012 - 08:08 PM, said:

A lot of SB winning coaches were in their second stint (Bellichik, Coughlin, Shanahan, Gruden, Dungy to name a few). I think it might even be a majority. That's why I'm more interested in a second stint guy

I'd prefer a newcomer to the head coaching ranks but I'd be fine with somebody worth a 2nd chance if and only if he surrounds himself with experienced coaches, he wouldn't want full control over the team, and he truly has a plan to fix this team.

[time2rock]

 AceofSpades, on 03 December 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

I'd prefer a newcomer to the head coaching ranks but I'd be fine with somebody worth a 2nd chance if and only if he surrounds himself with experienced coaches, he wouldn't want full control over the team, and he truly has a plan to fix this team.

IMO that's really the most critical determining factor to the success of the team under whoever is finally named HC - i.e. hiring the right staff.

[pgcd3]

 time2rock, on 03 December 2012 - 05:28 PM, said:

IMO that's really the most critical determining factor to the success of the team under whoever is finally named HC - i.e. hiring the right staff.

Agreed mention a guy like Chip Kelly and I ask who is his DC? With Nolan who is his OC? If Cleveland cleans house and we hire a defensive guy I wouldn't mind Shurmur as OC

[eaglesfan0075]

 pgcd3, on 03 December 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

With Nolan who is his OC?

Norv Turner? Nolan was the DC for the Redskins when Turner was the HC. Finding quality coordinators shouldn't be hard for Nolan since he's been coaching in the NFL since 1987 for 8 different teams. Whether Lurie is interested in Nolan is another story.

Historically, Lurie hires his new HC from teams that recently won a SB at the time, which makes Nolan less likely despite his credentials.

[AceofSpades]

 pgcd3, on 03 December 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

Agreed mention a guy like Chip Kelly and I ask who is his DC? With Nolan who is his OC? If Cleveland cleans house and we hire a defensive guy I wouldn't mind Shurmur as OC

Shurmur's a guy I brought up as a potential OC regardless of who the head coach is. Sam Bradford looked good as a rookie when Shurmur was his offensive coordinator. In fact the Rams offense looked like it was gonna take steps in the right direction under him. I'd bring him back at the very least as the QB coach.

[AceofSpades]

 eaglesfan0075, on 03 December 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:

Norv Turner? Nolan was the DC for the Redskins when Turner was the HC. Finding quality coordinators shouldn't be hard for Nolan since he's been coaching in the NFL since 1987 for 8 different teams. Whether Lurie is interested in Nolan is another story.

Historically, Lurie hires his new HC from teams that recently won a SB at the time, which makes Nolan less likely despite his credentials.

And like we talked about before, if Lurie sticks to this, we'll see a Saints coach, Giants Coach, or a Packers coach. Also add in the fact that to this point Lurie's gone in the opposite direction of what he fired. Now the question is will Lurie stick with this or go in a different direction? Will he bring in outside voices that can give him unbiased opinions about what type of coach he needs to hire for this team?

[pgcd3]

 AceofSpades, on 04 December 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

And like we talked about before, if Lurie sticks to this, we'll see a Saints coach, Giants Coach, or a Packers coach. Also add in the fact that to this point Lurie's gone in the opposite direction of what he fired. Now the question is will Lurie stick with this or go in a different direction? Will he bring in outside voices that can give him unbiased opinions about what type of coach he needs to hire for this team?

Let me add I'm not big on Perry Fewell. The Giants defense is perennially overrated. Look at the stats they give up both yards and points.

[ryguy552]

 AceofSpades, on 02 December 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

I'd always thought Nolan was a really good defensive coordinator. Who knows, maybe he could get another HC job and turn his career around like Belichick or some others have done with other chances. I think what Nolan has to do this time is surround himself with much better coaches and with smarter personnel. He's gotta realize that he can't be the boss. He can't be the guy to make all the decisions. He's gotta be able to have other people on staff and to trust them with decisions. I think that's why he failed in San Francisco. He got his shot at being the guy and didn't really trust anybody else's decisions.



Based on what? Who says's they're not bringing in a defensive minded head coach? 1 report says they're talking to Chip Kelly? Ok let's play that game and say the report is true, there's a thing called due diligence.

Both ESPN AND NFL Network have reported they are looking for an offensive guy as their next head coach. I doubt they are both blowing smoke.

[AceofSpades]

 pgcd3, on 04 December 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

Let me add I'm not big on Perry Fewell. The Giants defense is perennially overrated. Look at the stats they give up both yards and points.

Agreed, although he wasn't the coach I was thinking about. They're good at generating pressure and in the secondary. I'd like to see David Merritt (Safeties coach) possibly become the defensive coordinator. It'd feel good to return the favor from 2007 (reaching, yes).

 ryguy552, on 04 December 2012 - 11:23 AM, said:

Both ESPN AND NFL Network have reported they are looking for an offensive guy as their next head coach. I doubt they are both blowing smoke.

What have we learned about any report that's out there concerning the Eagles? Let me point to the most recent example. "Michael Vick is still the starting quarterback".

[pgcd3]

How as an owner you can look at this team and not think your top priority is getting a great defensive coach is beyond me? Even the fanbase gravitates to hard nose football

[AceofSpades]

As I think about the possibility of Mike Nolan getting another head coaching job, I think about how he could possibly try to reunite and reassemble the Baltimore staff. Rex Ryan & Mike Pettine are gonna be out there after the Jets clean house, he could look at Mike Singletary if things don't work out with the Vikings, and there's always Brian Billick as maybe an offensive coordinator but I think he'd hold out for a head coaching job. That honestly would be a good staff defensively. They'd all worked together before and together they put together some good defenses. That's something the Eagles could use. I'm actually warming up to the idea of Nolan.

Now the issue I have, he'd have to go for somebody that can truly run the offense and do it well. I'm most worried about the offensive coordinator position. Norv Turner would be good and he worked with Nolan before. Pat Shurmur's certainly an option but if they're gonna go with a defensive minded coach, they need somebody that'll be creative in his play calling and can truly develop players.

[time2rock]

 eaglesfan0075, on 03 December 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:

Norv Turner? Nolan was the DC for the Redskins when Turner was the HC. Finding quality coordinators shouldn't be hard for Nolan since he's been coaching in the NFL since 1987 for 8 different teams. Whether Lurie is interested in Nolan is another story.

Historically, Lurie hires his new HC from teams that recently won a SB at the time, which makes Nolan less likely despite his credentials.

When Andy was hired, it had been 3 years since GB won the SB.

Nolan and the Falcons could very well end up hoisting the trophy this year.

[AceofSpades]

 time2rock, on 05 December 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

When Andy was hired, it had been 3 years since GB won the SB.

Nolan and the Falcons could very well end up hoisting the trophy this year.

This reminds me all too well of 2010 when the Falcons were the top seed in the NFC and they blew it. I think that happens again this year. They were that team that everybody talked about since the start of the season but they couldn't do anything in the playoffs. They didn't even show up. The Falcons are looking like that again. For a good portion of this year they were playing like they were begging to be beaten and teams couldn't do it until the Saints & Panthers. I don't know what's going on with their running game and they're not overly dominant in the passing game.

They've basically gone into cruise control as they're gonna have HFA throughout the NFC playoffs and they're gonna end up playing a team that's had to scratch and claw their way into the playoffs or for positioning and we could see a repeat of what happened when they played the Packers in the playoffs.

[eaglesfan0075]

 time2rock, on 05 December 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

When Andy was hired, it had been 3 years since GB won the SB.

Nolan and the Falcons could very well end up hoisting the trophy this year.

Well if the Falcons do win it all this year, I can see Nolan being considered by Lurie as a candidate. It would be surprising if Lurie hires a HC that did not come from a recent SB winner given his past history.

This means the next HC will probably be from one of these teams: Giants, Steelers, Saints, Packers. These 4 teams are the ones that have won SBs in the past 5 years. This seems like the smart bet, assuming that Lurie is taking as active of a role in finding the HC that we think he is.

If Roseman really is in complete control, who knows where he goes with the next HC? It could very well be Chip Kelly or another young college HC. Hopefully Lurie takes a more active approach in this process and doesn't simply go with Roseman's suggestions.