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[greenpassion]

amazing what a running game can do for an entire team

takes the pressure off your qb

takes the pressure off the o-line

ACTUALLY SCORE POINTS!

normally it would help out a defense too by keeping them fresh but nothing can help THIS defense

just think what coulda been over these last 2 years running the ball like this

[iluvdaeagles]

been calling for it all year

under 35 pass attempts and 20+ runs with your RB gives this team a great chance to win games

[Greg Garrity]

Uhhhhhhhhh..... no. Cowboys defense is THAT bad.

And they didn't blitz. That's been a big problem with them, too.

[greenpassion]

by the second qaurter on the dallas defense was worried about stopping bryce and not just tee'ing off at the qb

this is how you win games. imagine if you had jax on the outside too it would open up for shots down the field

[eephraim]

^^^^THIS^^^

The boys suck on D and barely blitzed at all save for the first quarter.

But running the football will ALWAYS be the way to win football games. Always. That's football guys. This whole "it's a passing league" is BS. It will never be a passing league. If you can't gain at least some yards on the ground and keep safeties honest your passing game is over.

[Pallidrone]

eephraim, on 03 December 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

^^^^THIS^^^

The boys suck on D and barely blitzed at all save for the first quarter.

But running the football will ALWAYS be the way to win football games. Always. That's football guys. This whole "it's a passing league" is BS. It will never be a passing league. If you can't gain at least some yards on the ground and keep safeties honest your passing game is over.

BS. You win in this league with great QB play and good defense.

Running the ball is needed but not the reason why teams win.

[JonnyEagles69]

It really helps when a QB stays in the pocket and steps forward . Vick Scrambling at first sign of pressure does not help the Offense

[Gimpy]

eephraim, on 03 December 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

^^^^THIS^^^

The boys suck on D and barely blitzed at all save for the first quarter.

But running the football will ALWAYS be the way to win football games. Always. That's football guys. This whole "it's a passing league" is BS. It will never be a passing league. If you can't gain at least some yards on the ground and keep safeties honest your passing game is over.

Eli Manning (2), Aaron Rodgers (1), Drew Brees (1), Ben Roethlisberger (2), Peyton Manning (1), Tom Brady (3). That's the list of QBs who have won the SB in the past nine years and how many SB wins they each have. You think the running game was more important than the passing game for most of these guys?

[Kolbfan4]

Gimpy, on 03 December 2012 - 01:28 PM, said:

Eli Manning (2), Aaron Rodgers (1), Drew Brees (1), Ben Roethlisberger (2), Peyton Manning (1), Tom Brady (3). That's the list of QBs who have won the SB in the past nine years and how many SB wins they each have. You think the running game was more important than the passing game for most of these guys?

You don't need an elite RB. You need a RB that can get the job done occasionally. Those teams had it...Well all except one.

Manning won because of amazing defensive play and slightly because of his offense
Starks averaged almost 5 YPC in the Superbowl for GB
Brees has good runningbacks...Reggie Bush...Pierre Thomas..
Ben has a top 3 defense and a great RBs.
Manning had Addai I believe...
and Brady had a coach who knew how to cheat (notice how he hasn't won **** since)

[inhumanehuman]

Yes the Cowboys defense sucks, but we beat them with backups. Yes, they are also missing players, but we put up 27 points with 8 bench players on offense.

[greenpassion]

peyton didnt win it until addai came there and dungy ran the ball alot that postseason

eli had bradshaw and jacobs andeven more his receievers made big plays for him

the saints and breese ran the ball i dont know if they racked up alot of yards but i know they had good balance

[Greg Garrity]

The Giants had one of THE WORST running offenses last year. Just saying names of running backs doesn't mean they ran the ball worth a damn.

[Pallidrone]

greenpassion, on 03 December 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

peyton didnt win it until addai came there and dungy ran the ball alot that postseason

eli had bradshaw and jacobs andeven more his receievers made big plays for him

the saints and breese ran the ball i dont know if they racked up alot of yards but i know they had good balance

All those teams had good defenses. What Dungy did was bring his defensive mind to the Colts, which they desperately needed.

The Saints and Giants both had great defenses.

Running the ball is important, but defense and great QB play is much more important. Loo at GB. They won when their defense was playing lights out. Now their defense is mediocre and they are barely even in the conversation.

[Gimpy]

Kolbfan4, on 03 December 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

You don't need an elite RB. You need a RB that can get the job done occasionally. Those teams had it...Well all except one.

Manning won because of amazing defensive play and slightly because of his offense
Starks averaged almost 5 YPC in the Superbowl for GB
Brees has good runningbacks...Reggie Bush...Pierre Thomas..
Ben has a top 3 defense and a great RBs.
Manning had Addai I believe...
and Brady had a coach who knew how to cheat (notice how he hasn't won **** since)

greenpassion, on 03 December 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

peyton didnt win it until addai came there and dungy ran the ball alot that postseason

eli had bradshaw and jacobs andeven more his receievers made big plays for him

the saints and breese ran the ball i dont know if they racked up alot of yards but i know they had good balance

Those are all teams with elite quarterbacks though. You really think Joseph Addai and Ahmad Bradshaw had more to do with their teams' SB runs than the Mannings that were at the helm? Last year, the two teams with the best passing offenses were the teams with the best records in their respective conferences.

Who are the best QBs of the last ten years that haven't won a ring? Then think of the best RBs that haven't won a ring. Some of the best of the best running backs (LT, Peterson, Chris Johnson, Westbrook) don't have rings while all of the uppermost echelon QBs do. Doesn't that tell you something?

[wvjerome]

iluvdaeagles, on 03 December 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

been calling for it all year

under 35 pass attempts and 20+ runs with your RB gives this team a great chance to win games

Don’t forget not holding onto the football too long, running around like a fool, and taking unnecessary hits also makes a line look much better.

[vic92353]

Pallidrone, on 03 December 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

BS. You win in this league with great QB play and good defense.

Running the ball is needed but not the reason why teams win.

Andy Reid, is that you?  You should be ashamed of yourself.  Notice the teams are winning all have running games.  I wonder why that is?  

[greenpassion]

most of you take the "its a passing league" way too literally

again its not so much about production but about keeping good balance. yes most those team mentioned strong suite was throwing the ball but i maintain they still kept good balance. there have been teams that have won superbowls with less than spectacular qbs

the first supe that big ben won was mostly due to great defense and running the ball

i remember when the giants beat the undefeated pats. the opening drive lasted nearly the entire qaurter with them running for 2, 3 yards then converting third an short

running the ball is more than just yardage but it wears down the d-line and that helps the o-line

[SecondComing]

Its always easy to say this when your averaging 7 yards a carry and you dont have holding penalities and false starts on first down.

[10-JJ-10]

The thing is if you don't have one of those top quarterbacks and you are stuck with QB's like Vick and some rookies then you better be able to run the ball if you want to win some games. Just look at what has happened the last few year with us.

If you don't have one of those QB's and you can't find another one, then you better be able to run the ball and play great defense if you want a chance to win

[judunno]

running the ball keeps ur qb alive.  helps when the Ol doesnt have a penalty every other down as well.  looks like they dumbed down the protections too.  better late than never.  just glad foles didn't have to pass 50+ times.

[seengreen]

greenpassion, on 03 December 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

amazing what a running game can do for an entire team

takes the pressure off your qb

takes the pressure off the o-line

ACTUALLY SCORE POINTS!

normally it would help out a defense too by keeping them fresh but nothing can help THIS defense

just think what coulda been over these last 2 years running the ball like this

They look BETTER than they have all season. Dunlap is still a bad fit at LT. He manned up last night and held it down. But, he still got beaten a lot. A good Oline is one that does it game in game out, same guys, same scheme, for at least a year. The Eagles have a lot of work to do.

This is with the healthy additions of Peters, Kelce, Herramans. Scott is in over Watkins. Mathis stays. Remember both the LT and RT are coming off serious, often career threatening injuries. They have to re-acclimate to the game speed and their teammates.

[greenpassion]

the thing that run blocking does is it gives the o-line a chance to beat up on thier guy. pass blocking that guy is bullrushing and doing all sorts of attacks on you

i cant imagine as an o-linemen in reids system the amount of pressure your under all game long, anything less than an allpro is gonna struggle

[Utebird]

greenpassion, on 03 December 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

amazing what a running game can do for an entire team

takes the pressure off your qb

takes the pressure off the o-line

ACTUALLY SCORE POINTS!

normally it would help out a defense too by keeping them fresh but nothing can help THIS defense

just think what coulda been over these last 2 years running the ball like this

what are you talking about the eagles with mccoy last year were effective running the ball, he broke the franchise record for most rushing tds in a seasons, and they still ended up 8-8.

the problem isnt the running game, eagles fans like to whine about the run pass ratio when reid is right around the league average. the leading rusher this year is A.P his team isnt going to win the super bowl and most likely wont even make the playoffs, the giants had the worst rushing team in the league last year going into the playoffs and won a super bowl, the packers the year before the last few years have one of the highest pass rates, the patriots won super bowls consistently being in the bottom 4th of the league in rushing.

this isnt the 1980's where dominant running games win, this is the wide open nfl where passing and qbs win.

[Audit2]

greenpassion, on 03 December 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

peyton didnt win it until addai came there and dungy ran the ball alot that postseason

eli had bradshaw and jacobs andeven more his receievers made big plays for him

the saints and breese ran the ball i dont know if they racked up alot of yards but i know they had good balance

Manning had 1td 1Int in the SB and they named him the MVP .  The SB was won by the RBs who saved Manning butt by rushing for 190yds.

[greenpassion]

Utebird, on 03 December 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

what are you talking about the eagles with mccoy last year were effective running the ball, he broke the franchise record for most rushing tds in a seasons, and they still ended up 8-8.

the problem isnt the running game, eagles fans like to whine about the run pass ratio when reid is right around the league average. the leading rusher this year is A.P his team isnt going to win the super bowl and most likely wont even make the playoffs, the giants had the worst rushing team in the league last year going into the playoffs and won a super bowl, the packers the year before the last few years have one of the highest pass rates, the patriots won super bowls consistently being in the bottom 4th of the league in rushing.

this isnt the 1980's where dominant running games win, this is the wide open nfl where passing and qbs win.

you cant just look at stats and make that a determining factor. there were alot of things that went into us not doing much last season. like i said its about balance. your not gonna convince me or the city that reid passing the ball too much is not a problem. also we have all seen that when the season is lost or games are lost reid will all of a sudden start running the ball its almost like he does it cause he knows the media is gonna talk about it but in crucial situations reid is very predictable

[EagleVA]

Greg Garrity, on 03 December 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

Uhhhhhhhhh..... no. Cowboys defense is THAT bad.

And they didn't blitz. That's been a big problem with them, too.

You sir are correct, it's amazing how ignorant fans are, the Cowboys DL is worst than ours.

Let's see how good our DL looks against the Bucs and Bengals, chances are you're gonna see what you've seen all year long barring the Cowboys and Redskins, the worst OL in the league.