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[billqates]

I absolutely love this talking head sentiment.
The idea being, if some other franchise gets a hold of Andy Reid as taskmaster, leader of men and football genius, the Eagles will be all but doomed for years.

And to that I say, please, please, I hope on hope that another franchise, even in the NFC East hires Reid to run their organization or coach their team.
How's that for being careful?

[CaliEagle]

The National Media takes an overly simplistic view of things in sports because they can't invest the time to find out why situations are a certain way.  They just look at Andy Reid's won-lost record and division titles and use that as the reason as to why he should stay, instead of looking at how Andy's decisions over the past 3 years has taken the team down the crapper.

[odin8888]

"resent much" lol


Nobody is perfect, and Reid has brought us a chance to win in the past.. My gut feeling is he needs role reduced to head Coach with some say on personnel, but not all!!!!

We need a strong defensive coordinator!

[Intel Division]

Ask and you shall receive Philadelphia.

[vic92353]

Andy Reid F'ed this team up the last few years and so many people are still saying how great he is.  I don't understand this.  The team is as bad as it is because of Andy Reid.  He is the coach and it's all on him.  The selection of Players, Coaches and all.  

[aziatic77]

Intel Division, on 04 December 2012 - 09:52 AM, said:

Ask and you shall receive Philadelphia.

If we ask you to go away can you promise to make that happen?

[SinCityEaglesFan]

what the F are you talking about ???

to be quite honest - i hope andy takes a job in san deigo and runs that team into the ground. then FINALLY this head coach and football "genius" will be exposed for the fraud that he really is and is fired within three seasons.

so there.

[BIGPHILLY]

billqates, on 04 December 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

I absolutely love this talking head sentiment.
The idea being, if some other franchise gets a hold of Andy Reid as taskmaster, leader of men and football genius, the Eagles will be all but doomed for years.

And to that I say, please, please, I hope on hope that another franchise, even in the NFC East hires Reid to run their organization or coach their team.
How's that for being careful?

* Right. Careful what I wish for? Or what? I'll have a season where I go 3-13? I'm already having that.

[time2rock]

billqates, on 04 December 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

I absolutely love this talking head sentiment.
The idea being, if some other franchise gets a hold of Andy Reid as taskmaster, leader of men and football genius, the Eagles will be all but doomed for years.

And to that I say, please, please, I hope on hope that another franchise, even in the NFC East hires Reid to run their organization or coach their team.
How's that for being careful?

I've always read "be careful what you wish for" as meaning it will be hard to find someone to come in and do as good a job coaching this team as Andy has rather than Andy going elsewhere and becoming a thorn in our side.  

With some of the recent poor decisions Andy has made (Castillo to DC, signing Vick long-term, hiring a DL coach to install the wide 9 before hiring a DC, etc.) Andy already has become a thorn in our side.  But really, no need to be disrespectful toward the man.  It is just time to move on.

[pgcd3]

Sports is a business of failure. Any replacement coach or even high draft pick is more likely to fail than succeed. But you keep trying until you get it right. It ain't right now

[bobeph]

Eagles haven't done crap since the SB year.  Time for hos fata** to go.

[Pallidrone]

I would only consider keeping AR under two conditions

1) He fires MM and gets a young inventive offensive coordinator and hands off the playbook to him.

2) If Rex Ryan gets fired and they hire him as the defensive coordinator.

That is the only scenario I would even consider keeping him around for a lame duck season and that is still a maybe. Other then that unlikely scenario it is time to move on. There is no need to be fearful where he goes, especially since he is not going to be anywhere near the NFC East anyway.

[pgcd3]

My keep AR scenario is they bring in a stud President to replace Banner over Roseman and Reid. AND they bring in a stud DC like Ryan. Very unlikely

[phillygrump]

billqates, on 04 December 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

I absolutely love this talking head sentiment.
The idea being, if some other franchise gets a hold of Andy Reid as taskmaster, leader of men and football genius, the Eagles will be all but doomed for years.

And to that I say, please, please, I hope on hope that another franchise, even in the NFC East hires Reid to run their organization or coach their team.
How's that for being careful?

If Reid had 14 seasons without a Super Bowl in Dallas they'd be all over him. But since the national media views Philly as an ugly stepchild that should be grateful for its division wins and NFCCG appearances Reid looks like a god to them.

The talking heads are idiots. If they actually have a real opinion most times they are afraid to share it. I ignore them.

[RUEagle]

Never understood the love for guys like Marty Schottenheimer, Jeff Fisher, Andy Reid etc...by the national media.  They didn't win jack.  The frigin idea is to win the Super Bowl idiots, not be pretty good for a long stretch and lose every time.

[Baynit]

CaliEagle, on 04 December 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

The National Media takes an overly simplistic view of things in sports because they can't invest the time to find out why situations are a certain way.  They just look at Andy Reid's won-lost record and division titles and use that as the reason as to why he should stay, instead of looking at how Andy's decisions over the past 3 years has taken the team down the crapper.

Couldnt have said it better myself.  Basically they are making their decision based on the cover of the book rather than looking into things.

[snoopdogg88]

The national media said the same exact thing about Donovan

"Be careful what you wish for Philadelphia"

Lmao.  Then Donovan was out of football in a year

Good call ESPN

[graysferry]

OMG teh media hates Philly! They talk bad about us! This is why. You knuckleheads take offense to it and drive up their ratings. Suckers.

The vocal majority of Eagles fans make themselves easy to pick on. If you can't see that then you're not paying attention.

[EagleFan_80]

time2rock, on 04 December 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

I've always read "be careful what you wish for" as meaning it will be hard to find someone to come in and do as good a job coaching this team as Andy has rather than Andy going elsewhere and becoming a thorn in our side.  

With some of the recent poor decisions Andy has made (Castillo to DC, signing Vick long-term, hiring a DL coach to install the wide 9 before hiring a DC, etc.) Andy already has become a thorn in our side.  But really, no need to be disrespectful toward the man.  It is just time to move on.

Agreed, Andy has given us a great ride here, however, he has become stale.  I for one appreciate the ride he has given us and wish him the best.  Personally, I hope he takes time off to take care of his personal business and enoy his friends and family.  In my opinion he needs a break and time to enjoy his life.

[nottsfootballfan]

Roughly 500 since superbowl loss.

Last 4 years identical to ray Rhodes.

It can’t really get any worse than the last two seasons. Last season was awful then they fools’ golded the last 4 games.

[L.E.]

We're 3-9. What's the worst that can happen next year? 2-10? Oh no!

[graysferry]

L.E., on 04 December 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

We're 3-9. What's the worst that can happen next year? 2-10? Oh no!

Actually the worst would be 0-16 and the franchise is moved to another city where they win a Super Bowl in their inaugural season but carry on...

[L.E.]

graysferry, on 04 December 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

Actually the worst would be 0-16 and the franchise is moved to another city where they win a Super Bowl in their inaugural season but carry on...

You're right, 0-16 would totally be the end of the world compared to 3-13. And if you think Reid leaving is going to trigger the Eagles leaving Philly, you're on crack.

[graysferry]

L.E., on 04 December 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

You're right, 0-16 would totally be the end of the world compared to 3-13. And if you think Reid leaving is going to trigger the Eagles leaving Philly, you're on crack.

That's not at all what I said, but I wouldn't dare question your reading comprehension.

[c_u_in_tampa]

I don't want Reid back under any circumstances.

[inhumanehuman]

Reid was ahead of his time, implementing a pass-first (more like pass-always, but I digress) speed offense using good athletes instead of offensive brains. Problem is, he couldn't get it done while he had the chance, and now the rest of the league has not only caught up, but surpassed him.

I love what Andy did for this team, but ideas get stale and you have to adapt. The only thing Reid has done to adapt is throw money at free agents that don't pan out instead of home-growing solid rosters.

I don't want Reid to leave the Eagles, but I don't want him as the head coach. Someone else with fresh ideas and a real winning hunger needs to take the reigns, re-tool this team, and lead it to glory.

[L.E.]

graysferry, on 04 December 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

Actually the worst would be 0-16 and the franchise is moved to another city where they win a Super Bowl in their inaugural season but carry on...

graysferry, on 04 December 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:

That's not at all what I said, but I wouldn't dare question your reading comprehension.

"Not at all what I said"... You sure?

[Nivraga]

time2rock, on 04 December 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

I've always read "be careful what you wish for" as meaning it will be hard to find someone to come in and do as good a job coaching this team as Andy has rather than Andy going elsewhere and becoming a thorn in our side.  

With some of the recent poor decisions Andy has made (Castillo to DC, signing Vick long-term, hiring a DL coach to install the wide 9 before hiring a DC, etc.) Andy already has become a thorn in our side.  But really, no need to be disrespectful toward the man.  It is just time to move on.

Hilarious - Andy has made some questionably bad decisions the last few years but none of the decisions you mentioned are included in that list. First - hiring a DL coach before hiring a DC is not a questionable move by Andy Reid - it's standard OP in the NFL - New Orleans hired 2 Secondary coaches to fill vacancies BEFORE they hired Spags who simply JOINED the current staff.

Hiring Washburn was a mistake but not at all because it was before hiring the DC - as it turns out - Washburn was the bad apple on defense - he should have been fired earlier in the year instead of Castillo. I will agree that it was a mistake to hire Juan Castillo from OLine direct to DC - his inexperience coaching that side of the ball was evident late in games. With that said - he was doing a very good job - the only unit performing reasonably well this season was HIS defense despite their own offense and special teams. The Vick contract was the right move since it was perfectly structured so that they could back out of it after this season without a significant cap hit.

[graysferry]

L.E., on 04 December 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

We're 3-9. What's the worst that can happen next year? 2-10? Oh no!

graysferry, on 04 December 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

Actually the worst would be 0-16 and the franchise is moved to another city where they win a Super Bowl in their inaugural season but carry on...

L.E., on 04 December 2012 - 12:49 PM, said:

"Not at all what I said"... You sure?

Yes

[NCTANK]

L.E., on 04 December 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

We're 3-9.

yeah, we'd better be careful