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peters is a beast....

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#1 NWMontana

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:59 AM

All signs point to Peters return, and again a top 3 in the league.   With 2-3 years left in him the Colts are picking arouns 17-18  and want Joeckel to protect Luck for a decade.   The offer is their 1st 2nd and 3rd.....   Done.

As pathetic it is to watch our secondary as a whole,  we must infuse quality youth into the OLine now.

Can we fix this mess in one draft with a FA or two.....  ahh maby to a 9-7 season......maby.

With a collective OLine effort, praying Foles works out......Next year I will go CB/LB/DE very early....


18.  Via Colts.,   Barrett Jones  6'4" 316    The safest pick in the draft.  He canplay any
position on the Oline and that is too good to pass on.


Rd2. Brennan Williams  ORT  6'7" 317 Todd can move inside.   Williams is
a stong nasty fella, called the dancing bear.

    Rd2. Sharrif Floyd  6'3" 295   DT   Jenkins/Patterson  gettin up there.  Floyd is
My # 1 DT in the draft to pair with Cox.... Quick as a cat...

    Rd3.   Prentiss Waggner  S   6'2" 189    3 year starter and team captain at
  Tennessee.   Read up on him....

    Rd3.   Bennett Jackson CB   6'0" 184    Nice player on the up.....

    Rd4.   Devin Street  WR  6'2" 192    PITT,  Read up on this guy.   Solid WR..

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:11 AM

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:29 AM

Why not sign a RT in FA like Sebastian Vollmer and then draft Manti Te'o; that would round out our offensive line and linebackers. Draft the best defensive back in round 2. Or... trade with St. Louis for their two 1st rounders, and grab the two best defensive backs available (Rhodes/Banks and Reid).

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:20 AM

Getting Peters back is like already drafting a top 5 OT.  You don't need another one.  If you trade down then you look at a game changing C or G or possibly RT but this line will improve quite a bit with just getting back Peters.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:37 PM

you dont make that deal unless you get a 1st pack next year as well.

You would trade back 10+ spots in the first for a mid 2nd and mid 3rd??

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:39 PM

View PostInnocence096, on 04 December 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

you dont make that deal unless you get a 1st pack next year as well.

You would trade back 10+ spots in the first for a mid 2nd and mid 3rd??

If you look at the value chart a #3 to #10 works out to a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd quite evenly for the #3 pick.

Depending on who its for (i.e. RGIII, Luck) you can ask for a future 1st. RGIII was a rare talent and they got a king's ransom for him, but I don't know if there is a player out there this year that you can get the moon for. Maybe after the combines one of those QBs will emerge with the same level of hype. Someone always does. Then maybe you can ask for a future 1st as well. Maybe someone will just have to have Lotuleilei and will give up a ton for him.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:30 AM

View Postphillygrump, on 04 December 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

If you look at the value chart a #3 to #10 works out to a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd quite evenly for the #3 pick.

Depending on who its for (i.e. RGIII, Luck) you can ask for a future 1st. RGIII was a rare talent and they got a king's ransom for him, but I don't know if there is a player out there this year that you can get the moon for. Maybe after the combines one of those QBs will emerge with the same level of hype. Someone always does. Then maybe you can ask for a future 1st as well. Maybe someone will just have to have Lotuleilei and will give up a ton for him.
i meant 10+ draft slots, not to the 10th selection. mostly in reference to the Colts selection which will hover around #20 overall

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:58 AM

View PostInnocence096, on 05 December 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

i meant 10+ draft slots, not to the 10th selection. mostly in reference to the Colts selection which will hover around #20 overall

Yeah if someone was moving up from that spot definitely it better come with a 1st for this year and next year along with a 2nd and 3rd.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:43 AM

Ok, forget the trade value. What about the players selected....??????????

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 11:27 AM

View PostNWMontana, on 05 December 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

Ok, forget the trade value. What about the players selected....??????????

With which pick(s)? If you mean the 3rd I'd take Manti Te'o (I'm pretty sure I've made my opinion clear on that) if you mean after a trade and the acquisition of pick 13 and 15 I'd take Chance Warmack at 13 and Jonathan Hankins or Eric Reid at 15 then at 35 I'd take Kenny Vaccaro.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:34 PM

View Postphillygrump, on 05 December 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

With which pick(s)? If you mean the 3rd I'd take Manti Te'o (I'm pretty sure I've made my opinion clear on that) if you mean after a trade and the acquisition of pick 13 and 15 I'd take Chance Warmack at 13 and Jonathan Hankins or Eric Reid at 15 then at 35 I'd take Kenny Vaccaro.

That is an interesting approach and I like it. I don't get why not just take Joeckel? Peters is coming off an injury is getting older and it gives you more depth if neeed be? I won't deny we need safety help bad so I am all about picking several up. I just think Joeckel could be a great player.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:11 PM

View PostGolfesv, on 05 December 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

That is an interesting approach and I like it. I don't get why not just take Joeckel? Peters is coming off an injury is getting older and it gives you more depth if neeed be? I won't deny we need safety help bad so I am all about picking several up. I just think Joeckel could be a great player.

I would not be upset with Joeckel at #3. I just think that pick has higher value in a trade than a player in this draft not named Te'o

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 07:29 PM

jesus christ barrett jones in the mid 1st. hes down to the mid 2nd now




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