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#181 fieldsr69

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:10 PM

Run the ball... some of us (i see you woody) have been saying that for a while. I love shady but its amazing what one cut and hit the hole does. If NOTHING else Bryce Brown is going to finish the season with great trade value. Crazy you say?? There arent enpugh carries for ONE good back in philly, never mind 2. For that matter, now that im thinking about it, i wouldent cry if we kept bryce and traded Shady. Hell even before the injury to shady, Bryce was coming in on alot of 3rd downs (read solid pass pro). Just saying, theres alot of holes to be filled. Lewis and polk are solid back ups. Move Shady or Bryce, who ever has the most value and draft.... someone. Bookend offensive tackles from the same school sounds about right to me.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:12 PM

There isn't enough carries/touches in Philly if AR/MM r the coach with the right HC there could be plenty of touches for both Mccoy and Bryce.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:12 PM

Rex Ryans?? And i thought i was talkin out of my a**. Damn dude. ... im sorry, clearly im still not ready to come back yet. Bitter and nothing nice to say. Hola ghost brother.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:21 PM

Any ideas on who the three qbs will be next year?

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:24 PM

Hedge...top 3 QB what in the draft???? Right now I believe it is 1.Geno Smith(WVU),2.Matt Barkely(USC), 3.Tyler Wilson(Razorbacks)

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:34 PM

>>fields: there is plenty of room for a three headed monster: a series of RBs with different skills and capabilities. The run game really protected Foles and I believe enabled some passing ( play action)...because the Cowboys had to respect the run. There was also much less muttering & cursing about how lousy the OL was playing. I have said it 1000 times. Nothing wrong with Eagles offensive players, but Coach Mornhinweg is not a leader. He is probably a great film room analyst,but his "gift" simply doesn't translate to game plans or play calling. Bryce Brown was a monster "trick play" because he runs down hll so effectively--it made Foles game better. Same darn deal in Baltimore with Ray Rice and Joe Flacco. Its not rocket science--its COMMONSENSE.

Now if you want to get picky...MM should operate atleast 60% of his running plays from the I formation. Use Havili to carry the ball. Use Lewis or Polk, too. Put Lewis or McCoy out as a flanker or in the slot. Get it going with 2 and 3 TE sets. SURPRISE SURPRISE, red zone performance goes through the roof,too.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:46 PM

GHOST BROTHER!!! Where ya been??

Woody, yes Nnamdi as a safety was a theory brought up recently. Maybe it would suit his style better as he seems to be aging? Just a theory.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:47 PM

>>fields: I don't think Bryce Brown's success is lost on Shady McCoy. You should check out how the OL played in the neat story.
http://www.phillymag...ess-vs-cowboys/

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:51 PM

>>ppw: Aso seems to have lost his fire. Was it a great payday? Is it age? Is he a really slow learner? I haven't got a clue. I'll just say that he doesn't appear to be adaptable--and leave it there.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:55 PM

Jake Scott has been a solid pickup  and mathis has been a stud the last 2yrs but how will it affect them when Mudd retires and we have a new OL coach will they still play at the same high level

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:00 PM

What would people think about keeping Mudd's assistant coach( Eugene Chung) as the new OL coach next season.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:05 PM

View PostBleedingGreen93, on 05 December 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

Hedge...top 3 QB what in the draft???? Right now I believe it is 1.Geno Smith(WVU),2.Matt Barkely(USC), 3.Tyler Wilson(Razorbacks)

On eagles roster. Is Edwards likely to return? Think eagles go draft pick or free agent if Vick leaves. Any ideas who might be targeted if they draft a QB? I realize how Foles plays and who is HC will have a big impact on that.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:10 PM

Hedge.... yea i misread ur post yes i believe Foles and TE stay on the team next season. Vick will be gone and as for QB in the draft anyone that isn't a 1st rounder my choice would be EJ manuel probably land him in the 2nd or 3rd round

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:29 PM

Wood, er....um....I mean, Dr. Phil, I think big paydays are the leading cause of "mysteriously rapid decline in performance syndrome". Or at least that's how my conspiracy theory loving brain computes it.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:48 PM

>>PPW: lookin ahead to 2013, the OL is actually pretty good if this years injured return to their starters form...and the replacements stay on as depth. The replacements are getting valuable playing time. Watkins and Bell are the disappointments for 2012.

Eagles are in solid shape with playmakers: maclin, Cooper, avant, Johnson --and thinking the injured #10 could be swapped. Think everyone wants a 6'4" primo wideout. I'd settle for a steve smith or Hines ward...admitting height is a benefit.

Celek needs a bookend. Harbor isn't a real TE. He's almost a 3rd TE. I want someone to push Celek.

RB. Just use them more. Three headed monster.
QB. Stick with Foles and Edwards.

Kickers are sound too.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:55 PM

>>PPW: real surgery is needed on defense. Boykin is a keeper. Drc,Aso, Allen & Coleman are all playing average. DRC might be a keeper. Aso--no idea. Safeties--ouch. Sometimes coaching does wonders. Careful surgery.

Linebackers. Eagles have a good unit.

DL needs a DE and DT. Hoping adds are bigger/ stronger than the ones that they replace

DL. Like to see new players be larger

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:06 PM

Xavier Rhodes needs to be an option for philly at CB 6'2 217 and will come up and tackle and looks for contact something r Cbs now run away from..... DT i've been saying it Utah guy(6'3 320) great against the run commands double teams won't get the flashy stats but will open up things for other guys on the DL and LBs.
S.... Kenny Vacarro has a great skill set he is a solid tackler and covers WR in the slot so a pretty good coverage guy. Might look in FA for another S to pair with him Bryd(could be a good opition)
DE....might be nice to add another vet in FA to pair with r trio of Graham/Curry/Cole but if we look in the draft maybe Gholston michigan state good size at 6'6 270ish....
LB i agree with Jwood they r solid but Akeem can be upgraded but not an major need so it can wait i'd like to see Rau next season see time at WILL.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:28 PM

Jwood, I think the CBs problems lie within the system. Here you have two good, fast athletes whose best skill is man to man and the Eagles use them in zone coverage a lot. Match them up one on one and blitz. If the QB is that good and throws darts under pressure, then so be it. But sitting back in zone and WAITING for WRs to catch the ball is just stupid defense. Why even get Aso if you play him in zone? Coleman and Allen are just awful. They couldn't guard each other well. Dave defended Allen often here and I was at several of these games watching him play. I have never seen a safety so out of position and lost in my life. A complete bust to this point. Maybe coaching can help. I would love it if he found his way and became an outstanding safety. But right now he is dreadful and has been so all year long.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:31 PM

Reading this article puts the reality in the season. The article is bland because theres nothing real exciting to discuss. The Eagles have no chance at a Super Bowl. The year just sucks!

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:44 PM

I love the idea of giving more room to the ground game! But when I look at it, I just seem to notice that teams who base their offence on their run game have either a real solid defense or aren't in contention... Look at all the teams that are successful and go ground and pound on offence, then look at their defense: they're all elite defense. I think AR just doesn't trust the defense enough to abandon his explosive offense mentality... That being said I think our front seven is fairly good (we're still the only team who hasn't allowed 100yds to a single rusher), but the secondary really needs a fix.... Bowles supposed te be a DB coach wth I just can't understand... Safeties are awful, I wished we would've given more of a shot to Atogwe at the begining of the year, the guy at least used to be good

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:50 PM

BG 93- I like Xavier Rhodes, Haloti Jr from Utah and Kenny V from UTexas. At this point our safeties are physically overmatched in the pass game. Nate Allen is 210lbs but he doesn't. I remember Ahmad Bradshaw stiff arming him like he was a high-school player, DRC doesn't like to tackle at 175lbs, Asomugha is a step slower than in Oakland, Colt Anderson is too slow to run with NFL WRs. The only player in the defensive that brings good speed and hitting ability is David Sims and he was a Howie Roseman trade so he is not going to see the field. People can say what they want to say about Roseman but Howard Eskin said that he was informed that the 2012 draft was all Howie Roseman's draft and this was not the case in 2010 and 2011.  Whoever ran last year's draft has an eye for talent and needs to be kept aboard. Andy Reid has a certain type of player he drafts and the 2012 draft did not reflect Andy Reid's type of draft picks of the past, IMO.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:11 AM

Wood and BG those players and needs sound reasonable but you have to know what defense the team will be running before getting too far ahead here. Latualalae DT or  Manti would work great for most any scheme.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:30 AM

3D... I don't anticipate you seeing this till the am... But the Angels gave big fat joe blanton a 2 year 15 milz deal???? I thought California did not pass legalizing marijuana??? Holy shnikies!!!

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:43 AM

Did I really just read that Colt is going to be called a safety again???? Please tell me that whole article was a typo from unreliable sources. I love him on special teams for sure. Why does a guy have to be more than a great special team player? I don't know why I'm getting upset about it really because the safety play has been horrible for the most part so how much worse can it get?

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:46 AM

DDD> U get my STD? Eagles 27 Bucks 20. Foles has his first 300 yd game with 2 tds. One to maclin aka radio and the other to celek.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:52 AM

Did i read someone saying our corners are "used wrong"...bullcrap both Asomungua and DRC have been blown by several times this year in man to man coverage on double moves...no excuses for either one of them...both are way over rated and slower then sewerage running up hill......

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:09 AM

I know we need defense but if Tavon Austin is available in the 20's we should try to trade up in the draft to get him. He is small and fast like Djax but he is tougher with the football, he cuts on a dime like Shady, stops & starts like Barry Sanders and accelerates like Chris Johnson. He is a more explosive version of Darren Sproles, he is great a YAC, has great hands, this kid is a great, great football player. I have never seen a player possess that many qualities the only thing he lacks is size. He plays RB and runs between the tackles, catches the ball over the middle and is dependable on 3rd down. I think we should load up on offense and try to outscore people similarly to the Pats their defense is not that good but their offense just goes and outscores teams every week.




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