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[SilverChaosVII]

Apparently he has been playing much better than TATErs would have you believe.

It's a shame that it's all a scheme fit. I'm not so sure Mathis will continue to be dominant without Mudd next season.

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[terilyns]

Evan has had a really good season.

[BtotheH]

terilyns, on 05 December 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

Evan has had a really good season.

He wasn't in the beginning of the year. He has gotten better but he wasn't living up to his contract earlier on.

[time2rock]

BtotheH, on 05 December 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

He wasn't in the beginning of the year. He has gotten better but he wasn't living up to his contract earlier on.

Probably just took some time adjusting to a new LT that stunk (Bell) and a new OC (that struggled initially).

[terilyns]

BtotheH, on 05 December 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

He wasn't in the beginning of the year. He has gotten better but he wasn't living up to his contract earlier on.

Kinda understandable though seeing what the line had gone through.

[SirReal]

time2rock, on 05 December 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

Probably just took some time adjusting to a new LT that stunk (Bell) and a new OC (that struggled initially).

Truth. You're going to play differently, and with a different comfort level, when you're playing between Bell and Reynolds than when you're playing between Kelce & Peters.

[gaitherfan]

Draft best OT in the draft, move Todd back inside, and suddenly the OL is the strongest unit on the team...

[eephraim]

BtotheH, on 05 December 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

He wasn't in the beginning of the year. He has gotten better but he wasn't living up to his contract earlier on.

Agreed. He was getting worked early.

gaitherfan, on 05 December 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

Draft best OT in the draft, move Todd back inside, and suddenly the OL is the strongest unit on the team...

You can't do anything if your center can't block. Kelce can't pass block.

[WR_please]

He's been playing a lot better as of late for sure.  I have a problem with the analysis though:  "He hasn’t given up a sack all season and has been excellent as a pass protector."  Not all of that pressure early on was Bell and Reynold's fault, granted Mathis is an infinitely better player.  I clearly remember a play earlier on in the season when Mathis just let a guy run right by him and that guy got the sack (vague, I know.  Remembered the play, not the game).  His pass blocking wasn't excellent at all.  It has certainly gotten better but I'm shocked to see someone wrote this.

[time2rock]

eephraim, on 05 December 2012 - 10:49 AM, said:

You can't do anything if your center can't block. Kelce can't pass block.

He excelled when it came to getting to the 2nd level and laying a block on a LB or DB, but I am concerned that with (most likely) switching to a conventional OL scheme under a new regime, that he may not be the best fit.  May be better to have a larger body to anchor there.

[GangGreen*2011*]

What you're saying is, our marriage with Fireman Watkins is coming to an end after two seasons.

Another wasted draft pick.

[WR_please]

time2rock, on 05 December 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

He excelled when it came to getting to the 2nd level and laying a block on a LB or DB, but I am concerned that with (most likely) switching to a conventional OL scheme under a new regime, that he may not be the best fit.  May be better to have a larger body to anchor there.

Of course it is.  You'll have those "I know football more than you" guys who come in here and list the weights of a bunch of centers in the league and compare them to Kelce's, with their conclusion being Kelce is right there or not far off.  Just for some perspective, here are some questions.

Who is bigger:  Asante Samuel or Brandon Boykin?  Who is bigger:  Vinny Curry or Trent Cole?  And finally, who is bigger:  Nate Allen or Brian Dawkins?  It's about body type, it's about how you play.  When you look at Kelce, you know he's too small.  I don't care what his NFL.com or PE.com profile says, he's small.  He can't pass block.  That's it.  Not saying he can't be a backup, but going into 2013 as Jason Kelce as your day-1 starter is stupid to me.

[gaitherfan]

Kelce can fit in most zone blocking schemes, not just Mudd's. If he doesn't fit, we'll bring in someone who does. Fear not!

[BtotheH]

gaitherfan, on 05 December 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

Draft best OT in the draft, move Todd back inside, and suddenly the OL is the strongest unit on the team...

This line can be back to above average IF Peters and Kelce come back healthy. Draft another Tackle and maybe add a guard in FA then we will be in business.

My hopes for next years line - Peters, Herremans, Kelce, FA, Draft Pick

Add someone in FA to duke it out in camp with Watkins or trade this POJ. Also wouldn't mind keeping Dennis Kelly in the roataion for camp competition.

[gaitherfan]

While he has struggled mightily at times this year, I think Dunlap should get a nod as a backup, as well. He doesn't suck as a backup at all.

[BtotheH]

gaitherfan, on 05 December 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

While he has struggled mightily at times this year, I think Dunlap should get a nod as a backup, as well. He doesn't suck as a backup at all.

Hopefully the Eagles will get back to solid, big lineman in 2013. Dunlap may get better with a different line coach, he is big enough to block anyone, he just needs to learn technique.

I was not a big fan of the smaller but faster lineman, we play too many NFC East teams with bull pash rushers that will just blow our lineman up. Get back to the Tra, Runyan, Andrews and Jackson days.

[McNabb22005]

Dunlap sucks him and bell need to go...

[Season Tickets]

GangGreen*2011*, on 05 December 2012 - 10:59 AM, said:

What you're saying is, our marriage with Fireman Watkins is coming to an end after two seasons.

Another wasted draft pick.

With any luck Watkins will play better under a more conventional line coach.

[EAGLES8690]

WR_please, on 05 December 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

Of course it is.  You'll have those "I know football more than you" guys who come in here and list the weights of a bunch of centers in the league and compare them to Kelce's, with their conclusion being Kelce is right there or not far off.  Just for some perspective, here are some questions.

Who is bigger:  Asante Samuel or Brandon Boykin?  Who is bigger:  Vinny Curry or Trent Cole?  And finally, who is bigger:  Nate Allen or Brian Dawkins?  It's about body type, it's about how you play.  When you look at Kelce, you know he's too small.  I don't care what his NFL.com or PE.com profile says, he's small.  He can't pass block.  That's it.  Not saying he can't be a backup, but going into 2013 as Jason Kelce as your day-1 starter is stupid to me.

100% agree,we need to get someone better in there at center to.