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#31 faceman

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:41 AM

View Postevilwaldo, on 06 December 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

How many guys get injured on kickoffs versus regular play?

I would guess more injuries occur during regular plays because there are more of them during the course of a game. The
more serious and life threatening injuries are more likely to occur on kickoffs though. Kevin Everett of the Bills was very
close to being a quadriplegic the rest of his life after attempting a tackle on a kickoff against the Broncos a few years ago.

IIRC, the NFL changed the rules on kickoffs shortly afterwards. Receiving teams were no longer allowed to form a multiple
man wedge in front of the return man. The kicking team would would counter by having a man called a wedge buster. His only
responsibilty was to throw his body into the wedge and risking life and limb doing so. The new rule eliminated the need for
the wedge buster.

http://espn.go.com/n...suit-safer-game

Personally, I think it's a bad idea proposed by Goodell. No matter how much you tinker with the rules,football will always
be a violent sport. I'd hate to see the day come where players like Devin Hester,Darren Sproles and other great return
men are taken out of the game completely.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:09 AM

Goodell has to go before he absolutely ruins the NFL.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:14 AM

Sarcastaball anyone?

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:48 AM

View PostNCTANK, on 07 December 2012 - 10:09 AM, said:

Goodell has to go before he absolutely ruins the NFL.
Look at your avatar. Football has come a long way and many changes have happened. Goodell isn't the problem, he just happens to be the guy in charge of finding the solution.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 11:09 AM

View PostRegal, on 06 December 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:

I hate Goodell.

I'll second that notion.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 11:27 AM

View PostPegger, on 07 December 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:


Look at your avatar. Football has come a long way and many changes have happened. Goodell isn't the problem, he just happens to be the guy in charge of finding the solution.

i guess you're right brother. my bad.

get back to me in a few years when the players are wearing flags and the Super Bowl is being played on foreign soil.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 11:28 AM

View PostPegger, on 07 December 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

Look at your avatar. Football has come a long way and many changes have happened. Goodell isn't the problem, he just happens to be the guy in charge of finding the solution.

How much of the game is he going to change/ruin before he finds this solution though? A solution that may never exist. The reality is football is a collision sport. Injuries/concussions will always be a part of the game. Goodell may believe the kickoff is the most dangerous play in football, but if he does away with that, then the 2nd most dangerous play becomes the most dangerous play, and how long until Goodell decides to do away with that?

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:31 PM

View PostEagleJoe8, on 07 December 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

How much of the game is he going to change/ruin before he finds this solution though? A solution that may never exist. The reality is football is a collision sport. Injuries/concussions will always be a part of the game. Goodell may believe the kickoff is the most dangerous play in football, but if he does away with that, then the 2nd most dangerous play becomes the most dangerous play, and how long until Goodell decides to do away with that?
The sport has to be safer. He's looking the high impact areas like kickoffs or contacting the long snapper. Essentially he's trying to take out as much of the violence he can without resorting to flag football.

I love football and wish it will always be around, but if no mother will let their son play it's all a matter of time before the sport is unwatchable.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:48 PM

Readers of Tuesday Morning Quaterback would be familiar with Pulaski Academy, a high school that never punts. They won a state title last year and reached the state semis this year, finishing 11-3. Each week, TMQ documented the results of their 4th down attempts.

I'm not saying I'm advocating the no-punt approach, but it is interesting that no team is ever truly "forced" to punt, as announcers put it (how often do we hear "they have to punt!"?). No, they don't. It is a choice.

I know we're talking kickoffs, not punts. But I'm wondering whether thinking outside the box a little bit is really such a bad thing. Punts are viewed as indispensable and yet there can be some good success when not punting. Perhaps doing something else besides requiring a kickoff can be incorporated without changing the nature of the game.

http://espn.go.com/e...ademic-rankings - scroll down for final 2012 for Pulaski.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:02 PM

If there was no kickoff in the Saints/Giants game then the Saints win.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:43 AM

View Postwrestlevessel, on 09 December 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

If there was no kickoff in the Saints/Giants game then the Saints win.

save it buddy.

we are obviously living in the past. now lets enjoy that performance by the Giants Special Teams before the Roger Godell fand club gets here.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:52 AM

View Postwrestlevessel, on 09 December 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

If there was no kickoff in the Saints/Giants game then the Saints win.
If there was no 2 point conversion the Ravens beat the Redskins...
If there were old pass interference rules the Cowboys would have lost to the Bengals...

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