59 replies to this topic

[RUEagle]

Well this sucks.  What a bad couple weeks.

[Livewire351]

Damn shame.  RIP.

[Hey Suess]

CMPunk, on 08 December 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

Not surprised.

If only you could have been riding shotgun.

[Froggy]

stang8118, on 08 December 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

My heart goes out to the family, but I can't feel sympathy for the driver or the guy that died. Only an idiot would get in the car with a drunk driver.

You have no sympathy for a 25 year old kid that just died? So he made a bad decision in getting in a car with a drunk driver, but that decision shouldn't condemn him to die. You're being incredibly harsh here.

[Happyfoosball]

Dude makes 6 figures you'd think he could afford a cab.

[Mike P]

Happyfoosball, on 08 December 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

Dude makes 6 figures you'd think he could afford a cab.

I am pretty sure the NFL provides a free driving service.

[Happyfoosball]

Mike P, on 08 December 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I am pretty sure the NFL provides a free driving service.

That makes it even worse.  It's just the way people are.  I watch people drive drunk every time I go out.

[ChimpKelly]

Hey Suess, on 08 December 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

HOW 'BOUT DEM COWBOYS!!!

Way to show some class.

[ChimpKelly]

If pot was legal, I'm sure NFL teams would have the power to ban use among players. Use your heads guys.

[Hey Suess]

phillyphan754, on 08 December 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

Way to show some class.

As far as I know this is the United States of America...which means nobody cares what you think...because you're a woman.

[stang8118]

Froggy, on 08 December 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

You have no sympathy for a 25 year old kid that just died? So he made a bad decision in getting in a car with a drunk driver, but that decision shouldn't condemn him to die. You're being incredibly harsh here.

I never said I am glad he died, but I have no sympathy for him because he put himself in that situation. It isn't any different than someone getting killed hanging out with a drug dealer. Regardless if they were doing drugs, selling them, or just hanging out some place during the wee hours of the night, you know the guy is bad news so you stay away from him. It's called common sense.

[Froggy]

stang8118, on 08 December 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

I never said I am glad he died, but I have no sympathy for him because he put himself in that situation. It isn't any different than someone getting killed hanging out with a drug dealer. Regardless if they were doing drugs, selling them, or just hanging out some place during the wee hours of the night, you know the guy is bad news so you stay away from him. It's called common sense.

You honestly have no sympathy for him? What a heartless piece of ish you are. Stop using analogies to rationalize your terrible lack of compassion. What a smug piece of ish...I try very hard not to get worked up on a message board, and it's all fun and games when it comes to football...and then I run into people like you, all holier than thou and ish...

You SHOULD have sympathy for the kid, it's your moral imperative as a human.

[Froggy]

Happyfoosball, on 08 December 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

Dude makes 6 figures you'd think he could afford a cab.

He doesn't need to call a cab, there's a free service provided by his employers that is specifically designed to prevent morons like him from making such decisions...and even with his history with driving under the influence, and even with him having done time and a probationary period, he chose to make the same mistake again. And this time, it cost a young man his life and a family their son. And he'll carry the weight of actions with him for the rest of his life.

[cowboy30]

Well that sucks. WTF is going on in the NFL? What an idiot indeed. RIP Brown.

[TheSilence]

Hey Suess, on 08 December 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

HOW 'BOUT DEM COWBOYS!!!

Stay classy.

[lb7]

stang8118, on 08 December 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

I never said I am glad he died, but I have no sympathy for him because he put himself in that situation. It isn't any different than someone getting killed hanging out with a drug dealer. Regardless if they were doing drugs, selling them, or just hanging out some place during the wee hours of the night, you know the guy is bad news so you stay away from him. It's called common sense.

Am I reading this right, you have no sympathy for a person who makes mistakes? The man made a mistake in judgement and it got him killed, too bad you can't see that.

[Hey Suess]

TheSilence, on 09 December 2012 - 01:25 AM, said:

Stay classy.

Emo.

[Eagle Jeff]

cowboy30, on 09 December 2012 - 01:03 AM, said:

Well that sucks. WTF is going on in the NFL? What an idiot indeed. RIP Brown.

Stay classy.

[jrsu37]

Leonard Little killed a kid's mom and didn't even get suspended...So what's all the fuss about this time? Is it because this guy isn't as good as Little was? Or because he killed a fellow player and not a parent?

[stang8118]

lb7, on 09 December 2012 - 07:18 AM, said:

Am I reading this right, you have no sympathy for a person who makes mistakes? The man made a mistake in judgement and it got him killed, too bad you can't see that.

Had he crossed the street at a red light, and some driver hit him I would feel nothing but sympathy for him. Not gonna feel sorry for someone that knowingly gets in a car with someone that's been heavily drinking that night. Especially considering he makes more than enough money to call a cab, friend, family, or get a hotel room within walking distance of where he was.

[Happyfoosball]

Froggy, on 09 December 2012 - 12:18 AM, said:

He doesn't need to call a cab, there's a free service provided by his employers that is specifically designed to prevent morons like him from making such decisions...and even with his history with driving under the influence, and even with him having done time and a probationary period, he chose to make the same mistake again. And this time, it cost a young man his life and a family their son. And he'll carry the weight of actions with him for the rest of his life.

I understand what you're saying and it was a stupid decision, but keep in mind that guy was probably drunk too and got in the car with a drunk driver.  It wasn't like he hit a sober driver or a sober person walking in the street.  I doubt he gets 20 years or anything.  Both are bad choices, that's all this comes down too.  Just bad choices.  When I drank I would keep the taxi number in my phone, and always have some money tucked in a pocket for a cab.  I don't understand why this happens so often to pro athletes.

[jmac+djaxallday]

stang8118, on 09 December 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

Had he crossed the street at a red light, and some driver hit him I would feel nothing but sympathy for him. Not gonna feel sorry for someone that knowingly gets in a car with someone that's been heavily drinking that night. Especially considering he makes more than enough money to call a cab, friend, family, or get a hotel room within walking distance of where he was.

You're view of this situation is incredibly simplistic.  I don't know how old this kid was, but I'd assume he was in his 20's.  If you're telling me you didn't do some stupid things in your 20's, then you're a very rare breed.  Everybody does stupid things, not everybody dies for it.

[Happyfoosball]

jmac+djaxallday, on 09 December 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

You're view of this situation is incredibly simplistic.  I don't know how old this kid was, but I'd assume he was in his 20's.  If you're telling me you didn't do some stupid things in your 20's, then you're a very rare breed.  Everybody does stupid things, not everybody dies for it.

He makes a valid point.  The drunk driver didn't hit a sober driver, or someone walking.  The only person hurt was someone who was also drunk and willingly got in the car.  That makes a huge difference.  It's really sad but don't pretend that this guy is as big a victim as someone who's completely sober and gets wrecked by a drunk driver.  It's just not the same thing.  Sorry to break it to you.  It's just not.  I feel bad for both of them for being stupid.  Wish they would have used that free taxi service.

[jmac+djaxallday]

Happyfoosball, on 09 December 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

He makes a valid point.  The drunk driver didn't hit a sober driver, or someone walking.  The only person hurt was someone who was also drunk and willingly got in the car.  That makes a huge difference.  It's really sad but don't pretend that this guy is as big a victim as someone who's completely sober and gets wrecked by a drunk driver.  It's just not the same thing.  Sorry to break it to you.  It's just not.  I feel bad for both of them for being stupid.  Wish they would have used that free taxi service.

Well I can't force you to feel bad for anybody, but the bottom line is one young man is dead, and another young man will have to live with this haunting him for the rest of his life.  Sure, they both Fed up, but it doesn't make them bad people deserving of something like this happening.

[Froggy]

Happyfoosball, on 09 December 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

He makes a valid point.  The drunk driver didn't hit a sober driver, or someone walking.  The only person hurt was someone who was also drunk and willingly got in the car.  That makes a huge difference.  It's really sad but don't pretend that this guy is as big a victim as someone who's completely sober and gets wrecked by a drunk driver.  It's just not the same thing.  Sorry to break it to you.  It's just not.  I feel bad for both of them for being stupid.  Wish they would have used that free taxi service.

I can't believe how pedantic the internet has made some people...they have to have an opinion about every f'ing thing. The kid made a mistake, it wasn't worth getting killed over. You guys cross your arms and decide that you have no sympathy because he made a mistake. good lord

[Happyfoosball]

Froggy, on 09 December 2012 - 11:14 PM, said:

I can't believe how pedantic the internet has made some people...they have to have an opinion about every f'ing thing. The kid made a mistake, it wasn't worth getting killed over. You guys cross your arms and decide that you have no sympathy because he made a mistake. good lord

Exactly.  This guy is not some mask murderer.  He made a mistake.  He'll get his six months, his year long suspension and he'll be back in the NFL in a year or two if he gets in shape.  Hopefully he finds jesus or something and doesn't drive drunk anymore.

[gibsonplyer]

Not saying I don't feel any sympathy for the guy but they very easily could have killed someone else and wouldn't they both have some share of that blame?  Yes he made a mistake and its a shame it cost the young man his life but his mistake of not letting the other guy drive could have very easily proved fatal for another person who had done absolutely nothing wrong.  I'm sorry he died.  I do feel worse for the people who knew him.  

I'll say again though their should be much harsher penalties for drunk drivers.  The driver had already done this before and got caught and I'm assuming didn't hurt anyone that time.  He got lucky.  He also probably got lucky several times in between now and then because he didn't take it seriously enough and now he cost another person their life and he has to live with that.  And again as an NFL player he has no excuse whatsoever.  I have a problem with drunk drivers as it is but especially if you are provided with a FREE car service use it.  The NFLPA provides one and I'm sure the Cowboys are one of those teams that provide their own.  Jerry is used to dealing with troubled players so I'm sure he provides that service.

[Happyfoosball]

gibsonplyer, on 09 December 2012 - 11:55 PM, said:

Not saying I don't feel any sympathy for the guy but they very easily could have killed someone else and wouldn't they both have some share of that blame?  Yes he made a mistake and its a shame it cost the young man his life but his mistake of not letting the other guy drive could have very easily proved fatal for another person who had done absolutely nothing wrong.  I'm sorry he died.  I do feel worse for the people who knew him.  

I'll say again though their should be much harsher penalties for drunk drivers.  The driver had already done this before and got caught and I'm assuming didn't hurt anyone that time.  He got lucky.  He also probably got lucky several times in between now and then because he didn't take it seriously enough and now he cost another person their life and he has to live with that.  And again as an NFL player he has no excuse whatsoever.  I have a problem with drunk drivers as it is but especially if you are provided with a FREE car service use it.  The NFLPA provides one and I'm sure the Cowboys are one of those teams that provide their own.  Jerry is used to dealing with troubled players so I'm sure he provides that service.

Don't single out athletes then.  Go down to your local bar and sit in the parking lot at 2am and watch drunk idiot after drunk idiot drive off.  It happens every day.

[Rodney_Zero]

GrahamCracker, on 08 December 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

  

Josh Brent spent time in jail for a DUI during his college years.  .

This is not gonna help him

VaBeach_Eagle, on 08 December 2012 - 06:00 PM, said:

It is legal some places now though. They also ban other legal substances.

Where I live in western, NC, about 5 years ago alcohol was not allowed in restuarants (only brown bag), it was not sold in stores except one city in the county, you could only by beer at the golf course due to state law that declared it a "resort", then they voted it in. Many churches and hypocrites-->( closet drinkers including the Mayor) did'nt want restuarants and Bars in the city, they put up bilboards saying drunk drivers will be everywhere.................. fast foward, DUI's in the county have dropped, litter on the side of the roads (beer cans) has gone down from people not having to drive to GA ot Tenn to buy beer.

[bumpy93]

RIP young man. Even though he was a cowboy, he was still a young man