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[blindside]

..is completely divided..

It's kinda funny. We lose 8 straight, and TATE is fine. Playoffs are out of the question.Everyone agrees the team sucks. All is well.

We win our first game in two months on a clutch, game winning drive by a rookie qb, with only 2 out of 11 starters on offense, against a team who can potentially make the playoffs and who needs to win...

... and Tate goes nuts. "Foles is a franchise QB!", ""No, Foles is a piece of ****!", "Suck it, Vick nut hugger!", "F you, Nickfolian Dynamite fart box tongue puncher.."

Chill guys..

Can't it just be a good game by a rookie qb? Can't it just be a step in the right direction for his development?

Call it like it is. Nick Foles is a rookie qb, making some rookie mistakes, but also improving each game and developing nicely, so far..

Why does there always have to be a dichotomy? Why can't we just be happy for the kid and see how it goes?

Oh... I think I answered that question in the thread title.. my apologies..

Mods..

[NOTW]

Too much logic and not enough extremism for TATE.

You must be a Vick hater.  Or a FO nut hugger.  Or not a "real fan."  Something!  

[WillyDevereaux]

Nickfolian Dynomite has slept with, and will continue to sleep with all of our wives.

[kb420]

Vick blows. Foles blows.  We need Tim Tebow!

[H-field Hero]

The McNutt hugger insult is hilarious now that we have a receiver named Marvin McNutt.  First thing I thought of yesterday when Foles threw that one pass in his direction.

[blindside]

I heard Nick Foles was a product of immaculate conception.. just saying.

[NOTW]

Nick Foles is 10 feet tall and shoots lightning bolts out of his arse!

[Silentop]

NOTW, on 10 December 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:

Nick Foles is 10 feet tall and shoots lightning bolts out of his arse!

oK William Wallace..

[IrishSparx22]

I'd hug Jason Kelce's nuts with my mouth any day.

[blindside]

IrishSparx22, on 10 December 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

I'd hug Jason Kelce's nuts with my mouth any day.

[NOTW]

Silentop, on 10 December 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

oK William Wallace..

You got the reference...

[iluvdaeagles]

i agree

[SirReal]

blindside, on 10 December 2012 - 05:18 PM, said:

..is completely divided..

It's kinda funny. We lose 8 straight, and TATE is fine. Playoffs are out of the question.Everyone agrees the team sucks. All is well.

We win our first game in two months on a clutch, game winning drive by a rookie qb, with only 2 out of 11 starters on offense, against a team who can potentially make the playoffs and who needs to win...

... and Tate goes nuts. "Foles is a franchise QB!", ""No, Foles is a piece of ****!", "Suck it, Vick nut hugger!", "F you, Nickfolian Dynamite fart box tongue puncher.."

Chill guys..

Can't it just be a good game by a rookie qb? Can't it just be a step in the right direction for his development?

Call it like it is. Nick Foles is a rookie qb, making some rookie mistakes, but also improving each game and developing nicely, so far..

Why does there always have to be a dichotomy? Why can't we just be happy for the kid and see how it goes?

Oh... I think I answered that question in the thread title.. my apologies..

Mods..

What are you, new here?

[PrinceKelby]

blindside, on 10 December 2012 - 05:18 PM, said:

..is completely divided..

It's kinda funny. We lose 8 straight, and TATE is fine. Playoffs are out of the question.Everyone agrees the team sucks. All is well.

We win our first game in two months on a clutch, game winning drive by a rookie qb, with only 2 out of 11 starters on offense, against a team who can potentially make the playoffs and who needs to win...

... and Tate goes nuts. "Foles is a franchise QB!", ""No, Foles is a piece of ****!", "Suck it, Vick nut hugger!", "F you, Nickfolian Dynamite fart box tongue puncher.."

Chill guys..

Can't it just be a good game by a rookie qb? Can't it just be a step in the right direction for his development?

Call it like it is. Nick Foles is a rookie qb, making some rookie mistakes, but also improving each game and developing nicely, so far..

Why does there always have to be a dichotomy? Why can't we just be happy for the kid and see how it goes?

Oh... I think I answered that question in the thread title.. my apologies..

Mods..

Because A LOT of people jumped to our team as Vick fans, and not really Eagles fans.  This is why there is such division because you have the Vick fans falling over themselves backwards at the demise of their favorite player and since the back up QB is the person who is going to take his job, they want the Eagles to much worse off when Vick leaves as that would give them some satisfaction as they go buy another Vick jersey when he's on another team next year.

At least that's the way I see it. . .

[bobeph]

FolezLacherzZZzzz1!!!!1!!11!!'n

[blindside]

SirReal, on 11 December 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

What are you, new here?

kinda.. haven't ventured out of the blog much the last few years.  Been TATE'n it up the last couple days, though..

[downsoufeagleluva]

Thats the way a lot of you see it.....and its making you look really stupid.

PrinceKelby, on 11 December 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

Because A LOT of people jumped to our team as Vick fans, and not really Eagles fans.  This is why there is such division because you have the Vick fans falling over themselves backwards at the demise of their favorite player and since the back up QB is the person who is going to take his job, they want the Eagles to much worse off when Vick leaves as that would give them some satisfaction as they go buy another Vick jersey when he's on another team next year.

At least that's the way I see it. . .

[PrinceKelby]

downsoufeagleluva, on 11 December 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

Thats the way a lot of you see it.....and its making you look really stupid.

I'm not saying everyone who supports Vick is that way but there have been a TON of fans who made the crossover to the Eagles after Vick's superman year. . . .

Why else would there be such divide about a guy who has only been here for 3 years and 1 winning season?

[Ipspots]

But Vick is the Only QB we could ever have that gives us the chance to win any game, I mean remember that Game when he was the Falcon QB in 2001 and he won the game by running like 100 + yards and threw 1 Td and ran for another 2.....  he still has IT...

[PrinceKelby]

Ipspots, on 11 December 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:

But Vick is the Only QB we could ever have that gives us the chance to win any game, I mean remember that Game when he was the Falcon QB in 2001 and he won the game by running like 100 + yards and threw 1 Td and ran for another 2.....  he still has IT...

Still has what? Better legs than arm???  Heck that's even debatable. . .

but nice

[we_gotta_believe]

PrinceKelby, on 11 December 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

I'm not saying everyone who supports Vick is that way but there have been a TON of fans who made the crossover to the Eagles after Vick's superman year. . . .

Why else would there be such divide about a guy who has only been here for 3 years and 1 winning season?

Yep, as if there was never a divide over a QB of the Eagles before him.

[PrinceKelby]

we_gotta_believe, on 11 December 2012 - 12:45 PM, said:

Yep, as if there was never a divide over a QB of the Eagles before him.

Only Kolb and Garcia but nothing to this level. . .the guy has been around for 2 losing season while McNabb had been there and done everything but win a Super Bowl. . .how people feel so compelled to hang on to this guy is unexplainable if people are really putting the team before the player.

[we_gotta_believe]

PrinceKelby, on 11 December 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:

Only Kolb and Garcia but nothing to this level. . .the guy has been around for 2 losing season while McNabb had been there and done everything but win a Super Bowl. . .how people feel so compelled to hang on to this guy is unexplainable if people are really putting the team before the player.

Oh, so you mean the fans were divided on every single QB before Vick who started a game for the Eagles in the last decade. Yep, such an anomaly. And by that I mean a good portion of posters here in TATE were critical of McNabb for years after '04, it's not like it just happened overnight.

The fact is, fans will flock to a team when they see a player they like or when the team enjoys success (see Vick in 2010), and other fans will defend players vehemently even when the majority of others think it's undeserved (see Kolb.) It's not like it didn't happen when McNabb started to gain fame or players like Dawk and Trot emerged. Heck, the whole reason I started watching the Eagles, more so instead of my hometown team, is because of players like Randall and Reggie. Did that mean that "I put the player before the team" and became a Packers or Cowboys fan after they left? Unfortunately not.

[Ipspots]

PrinceKelby, on 11 December 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

Still has what? Better legs than arm???  Heck that's even debatable. . .

but nice

  I was being sarcastic...    I guess I should have added the roll eyes

[PrinceKelby]

we_gotta_believe, on 11 December 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

Oh, so you mean the fans were divided on every single QB before Vick who started a game for the Eagles in the last decade. Yep, such an anomaly. And by that I mean a good portion of posters here in TATE were critical of McNabb for years after '04, it's not like it just happened overnight.

The fact is, fans will flock to a team when they see a player they like or when the team enjoys success (see Vick in 2010), and other fans will defend players vehemently even when the majority of others think it's undeserved (see Kolb.) It's not like it didn't happen when McNabb started to gain fame or players like Dawk and Trot emerged. Heck, the whole reason I started watching the Eagles, more so instead of my hometown team, is because of players like Randall and Reggie. Did that mean that "I put the player before the team" and became a Packers or Cowboys fan after they left? Unfortunately not.

People were divided because McNabb just rubbed people the wrong way for whatever reason and the scheme changing to a more conventional WCO Which was and is much more effective for whatever reason.  Sure the backup QB is going to be the most popular guy on the team but, and yes I know many were critical of McNabb before 04 for whatever ridiculous reason considering he had NOTHING around him offensively except an OL but that's his fault I suppose too.

At least McNabb had done SOMETHING here outside of one season and wasn't some 30+ year old QB still trying to learn some basics of how to play the position.  People clamor to Vick "the highlight reel" which he just isn't anymore.

This has been one of, if not the, most divisive QB controversy in the AR era. . .and it's only made worse that a rookie is actually more fundamentally sound than a 10+ year vet.

Ipspots, on 11 December 2012 - 01:53 PM, said:

I was being sarcastic... I guess I should have added the roll eyes

I know hence my

[Ipspots]

About McNabb, I was happy the drafted him, supported him up until he literally choked in the SB....   thats when I knew in my heart of hearts he was not going to win us a SB.

He was good, but only soo good. Thats when I started believing that we should be looking elsewhere.

as far as Vick goes...

I dont like him as a person, BUT what he did in early 2010 made a believer out of me until.....

Perry Fewell showed the entire NFL world that Vick cant pick up pre snap reads on Blitzes.... and for two offseasons we keep hearing how Vick is working on that, and it doesn't improve. I gave up on him at the beginning of this season ....

Moving on...... Foles, I was and still am a bit skeptical, but so far the kid is winning me over... hope he keeps that up, though I expect he will stumble along the way. I just hope he progresses overall..

[RedZoneD25]

McNabb, bro. McNabb.

I think this thread would be a lot more popular if half of TATE wasn't googling dichotomy.

[ChimpKelly]

Why do people even start these dumb threads? They never work.

[Ipspots]

phillyphan754, on 11 December 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

Why do people even start these dumb threads? They never work.

ohh you are soo right, No one EVER posts any responses in threads like these......

[we_gotta_believe]

PrinceKelby, on 11 December 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

People were divided because McNabb just rubbed people the wrong way for whatever reason and the scheme changing to a more conventional WCO Which was and is much more effective for whatever reason.  Sure the backup QB is going to be the most popular guy on the team but, and yes I know many were critical of McNabb before 04 for whatever ridiculous reason considering he had NOTHING around him offensively except an OL but that's his fault I suppose too.

At least McNabb had done SOMETHING here outside of one season and wasn't some 30+ year old QB still trying to learn some basics of how to play the position.  People clamor to Vick "the highlight reel" which he just isn't anymore.

This has been one of, if not the, most divisive QB controversy in the AR era. . .and it's only made worse that a rookie is actually more fundamentally sound than a 10+ year vet.

I actually think the McNabb vs. Kolb controversy was much more divisive. McNabb was traded off the heels of a 2009 season in which he led the offense to a franchise record in pts scored. And similarly, a large majority of Kolb fans argued that Kolb (who had only started 3 games at the time) was more fundamentally sound than McNabb (who was a 10 year vet.)

I understand your point that at least some of the McNabb fans were justified in that he was a proven winner, but it's more simple than that when it comes to debates like this. The fans of the veteran QB simply think he gives the team the best chance to win and is still better than the new kid on the block at that point in time, regardless of what he had proven and how many years he had been with his current team.