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[Audit2]

http://www.phillymag...saw-from-foles/


Foles played a good game but he missed on some big throws.  The screen shots also shows that the Bucs can't cover anybody.  I'm hoping Foles plays well this week against Cincy (Especially for the sake of these worshipers) because this will be a true test for the guy. Foles played well but not nearly as good as some of you are claiming.  Go Eagles!!

[Hey Suess]

Let's hope he does play well this week!!
GO EAGLES!

[baldbird]

Yea his a$$ needs to go 40-41/450/6 or he isnt worth sh$t ..Why in hell are people so stuck on Foles I mean the damn guy clearly is not getting it. But come on only 5% 3rd rounders ever do so why should anyone be shocked that he sucks right. I so wish we would have just played Edwards ..

I do look for Foles to strugle Thursday night its a short week and he is still a rookie but hell even bress/brady/ryan/eli well all qbs fail at times ..Foles going out and playing like crap on a short week vs a very good D Is not the end of the world..Even if he gos 14-38/112 / 0/ 3  don't say he is not a good QB ..It just shows he is human after all.

GOOOO EAGLES

[mike030270]

I agree. On that deep pass if it had been Jackson instead of McNutt it probably would have been a TD

[andreid]

Foles did an amazing job. How amazing? Read below:
Nick Foles and the Eagles rallied from an 11-point deficit in the fourth quarter for a last-second win on Sunday over the Buccaneers (see Instant Replay).

The victory snapped the Birds' eight-game losing skid, while Foles put on an impressive display for a rookie quarterback.

Here's an inside look at the numbers. First, we begin with Reuben Frank's statistics from his own research:

• In his fourth career start, Foles became only the third rookie in NFL history to throw for 380 or more yards with multiple touchdowns and no interceptions. Marc Bulger of the Rams did it in 2002 and Andrew Luck of the Colts this year.

• Foles' 381 passing yards are the 13th-highest total in NFL history by a rookie.

• The last time the Eagles had less than 30 rushing yards and won was Oct. 23, 2005. It's only happened four other times since 1940.

• According to Elias, this is the first time since 1970 that the Eagles have won a game on a last-second touchdown when they were trailing.

• Foles is only the second QB in Eagles history to throw for 380 or more yards, two TDs and no INTs in a game. Donovan McNabb did it three times, most recently in 2007.

• Foles threw for 381 yards. The only other rookie QB to throw over 300 yards in Eagles history: Scott Tinsley in a 1987 strike-replacement game (338 vs. Cowboys).

• The last Eagles rookie QB to rush for a touchdown before Foles' 10-yard rushing TD: John Reaves in 1972.

Now, here's a look at some other milestones and statistics:

• Foles set the franchise’s single-game rookie passing records with 32 completions and 381 yards. Foles’ 1,174 passing yards this season are the third-highest total ever by an Eagles rookie. He trails only Reaves (1,508 in 1972) and Davey O’Brien (1,324 in 1939).

[Audit2]

baldbird, on 11 December 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

Yea his a$$ needs to go 40-41/450/6 or he isnt worth sh$t ..Why in hell are people so stuck on Foles I mean the damn guy clearly is not getting it. But come on only 5% 3rd rounders ever do so why should anyone be shocked that he sucks right. I so wish we would have just played Edwards ..

I do look for Foles to strugle Thursday night its a short week and he is still a rookie but hell even bress/brady/ryan/eli well all qbs fail at times ..Foles going out and playing like crap on a short week vs a very good D Is not the end of the world..Even if he gos 14-38/112 / 0/ 3  don't say he is not a good QB ..It just shows he is human after all.

GOOOO EAGLES

baldbird, on 11 December 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

Yea his a$$ needs to go 40-41/450/6 or he isnt worth sh$t ..Why in hell are people so stuck on Foles I mean the damn guy clearly is not getting it. But come on only 5% 3rd rounders ever do so why should anyone be shocked that he sucks right. I so wish we would have just played Edwards ..

I do look for Foles to strugle Thursday night its a short week and he is still a rookie but hell even bress/brady/ryan/eli well all qbs fail at times ..Foles going out and playing like crap on a short week vs a very good D Is not the end of the world..Even if he gos 14-38/112 / 0/ 3  don't say he is not a good QB ..It just shows he is human after all.

GOOOO EAGLES

Well your excuses are in order.

[baldbird]

Audit2, on 11 December 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

Well your excuses are in order.

I have to be real cuss we all know you vick huggers will be waiting to pounce lmao..But we understand he is a rookie and shows that he has the tools to make a solid starter and we understand he will still take planty of lumps its only human. I don't think anyone said he will for sure be the next starting qb of the eagles moving forward but we atleast have some excitment watching him grow in hopes he can be.

And yes we know you guys are waiting for him to fail so you can make another 100 nick foles sucks threads... The see We told you so..But it will take more then a few bad games from Foles for anyone to bite so don't hold your breath..Good news Vick will soon have another team and you guy's can go crash those boards.

[selassieyouth]

Audit2, on 11 December 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

http://www.phillymag...saw-from-foles/


Foles played a good game but he missed on some big throws.  The screen shots also shows that the Bucs can't cover anybody.  I'm hoping Foles plays well this week against Cincy (Especially for the sake of these worshipers) because this will be a true test for the guy. Foles played well but not nearly as good as some of you are claiming.  Go Eagles!!

He threw the ball 51 times and also lead the team in rushing with 29 yards. At the end of the day anytime Vick threw the ball 51 times this season it was either a near disaster or a total meltdown. I think we are just happy to have a QB who seems to show pocket awareness, presence of mind, and potential. At this point I think the sky is the limit for Foles and to top it off the kid has a great attitude.

I will let you know in a year or two what we have here. But I can tell you right now it looks a lot more promising than what we had with Vick here. Maybe Vick would benefit from a different line scheme. I don't think it should go unnoticed that Vick did pretty good behind Juan's line. Vick behind Mudd's system has been a total train wreck though. In the end I think we have seen the last of Vick in Philly. He will get a shot somewhere, and I wish him well. The guy has heart, but I don't think he stays here unless he takes a change in pay and status. He will have to accept the backup role.

It does not have to be a bad thing. Lets just be happy that we might be watching the beginning of something great here. Nick Foles could be the one to change history man. Every new beginning is a new door opening.

[Ipspots]

Vick was always a one trick pony, he used his legs..... and now he is older and lost a step, he never was and never will be a good pocket passer. His time is up.

Foles shows promise so far... got to see how high he will get before he levels off....

nuff with the Vick Crap, let him fade into obscurity...

[macgregor]

andreid, on 11 December 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

Foles did an amazing job. How amazing? Read below:
Nick Foles and the Eagles rallied from an 11-point deficit in the fourth quarter for a last-second win on Sunday over the Buccaneers (see Instant Replay).

The victory snapped the Birds' eight-game losing skid, while Foles put on an impressive display for a rookie quarterback.

Here's an inside look at the numbers. First, we begin with Reuben Frank's statistics from his own research:

• In his fourth career start, Foles became only the third rookie in NFL history to throw for 380 or more yards with multiple touchdowns and no interceptions. Marc Bulger of the Rams did it in 2002 and Andrew Luck of the Colts this year.

• Foles' 381 passing yards are the 13th-highest total in NFL history by a rookie.

• The last time the Eagles had less than 30 rushing yards and won was Oct. 23, 2005. It's only happened four other times since 1940.

• According to Elias, this is the first time since 1970 that the Eagles have won a game on a last-second touchdown when they were trailing.

• Foles is only the second QB in Eagles history to throw for 380 or more yards, two TDs and no INTs in a game. Donovan McNabb did it three times, most recently in 2007.

• Foles threw for 381 yards. The only other rookie QB to throw over 300 yards in Eagles history: Scott Tinsley in a 1987 strike-replacement game (338 vs. Cowboys).

• The last Eagles rookie QB to rush for a touchdown before Foles' 10-yard rushing TD: John Reaves in 1972.

Now, here's a look at some other milestones and statistics:

• Foles set the franchise’s single-game rookie passing records with 32 completions and 381 yards. Foles’ 1,174 passing yards this season are the third-highest total ever by an Eagles rookie. He trails only Reaves (1,508 in 1972) and Davey O’Brien (1,324 in 1939).

This as much any other single thing is why Reid should not coach here next year(and there are many). This season did not have to end this way. These stats should not surprise anyone who has watched him play enough. The kid is frikn good!

[dilluminati]

I think what we saw in the preseason and the regular season is reason enough to believe we have a viable QB in town, looking back this might be the only thing that will not be disputed from the Reid era

[wvjerome]

Audit2, on 11 December 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

http://www.phillymag...saw-from-foles/


Foles played a good game but he missed on some big throws.  The screen shots also shows that the Bucs can't cover anybody.  I'm hoping Foles plays well this week against Cincy (Especially for the sake of these worshipers) because this will be a true test for the guy. Foles played well but not nearly as good as some of you are claiming.  Go Eagles!!

All that really matters is that right now Foles is the best option at quarterback for the Eagles. I could go through every game Vick played this season and point out play after play where he missed a receiver, threw a bad ball, made a bad play, and so on. The page would bee too long. Vick is gone. Foles is a rookie and already has a better pocket presence than Vick. The Saints can't cover anybody and Vick made them look like the 85 Bears.

[Audit2]

baldbird, on 11 December 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

I have to be real cuss we all know you vick huggers will be waiting to pounce lmao..But we understand he is a rookie and shows that he has the tools to make a solid starter and we understand he will still take planty of lumps its only human. I don't think anyone said he will for sure be the next starting qb of the eagles moving forward but we atleast have some excitment watching him grow in hopes he can be.

And yes we know you guys are waiting for him to fail so you can make another 100 nick foles sucks threads... The see We told you so..But it will take more then a few bad games from Foles for anyone to bite so don't hold your breath..Good news Vick will soon have another team and you guy's can go crash those boards.

baldbird, on 11 December 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

I have to be real cuss we all know you vick huggers will be waiting to pounce lmao..But we understand he is a rookie and shows that he has the tools to make a solid starter and we understand he will still take planty of lumps its only human. I don't think anyone said he will for sure be the next starting qb of the eagles moving forward but we atleast have some excitment watching him grow in hopes he can be.

And yes we know you guys are waiting for him to fail so you can make another 100 nick foles sucks threads... The see We told you so..But it will take more then a few bad games from Foles for anyone to bite so don't hold your breath..Good news Vick will soon have another team and you guy's can go crash those boards.

What board have you been reading??   I don't know of anyone that is rooting for the guy to fail.  In acknowledging the fact that the guy played good not all world like some of you cliff hangers are doing is not rooting against the guy.  As the screen shots have shown the Bucs couldn't cover anyone and Foles missed on some big shots down the field. Cincy will be a test for the rook unlike Tampa who was looking for a reason to bail.

[AmericanEagle77]

macgregor, on 11 December 2012 - 10:53 PM, said:

This as much any other single thing is why Reid should not coach here next year(and there are many). This season did not have to end this way. These stats should not surprise anyone who has watched him play enough. The kid is frikn good!

He was a third round pick, rookie QB, with no offensive line. You wanted Reid to throw Foles to the flames? He didn't already exactly know that Ice Cold Foles could handle it, you know...

[birdman#12]

Audit2, on 11 December 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

Foles played a good game but he missed on some big throws.  The screen shots also shows that the Bucs can't cover anybody.  I'm hoping Foles plays well this week against Cincy (Especially for the sake of these worshipers) because this will be a true test for the guy. Foles played well but not nearly as good as some of you are claiming.  Go Eagles!!

Un-f------believable.......He hit on all the BIGGEST throws.  And all QB's miss on some big throws.  Geez, WTF do you guys want?  He played like a veteran QB on sunday.  And yes, he played as good as people are saying.  

Does that mean he'll do it every week? no
Does it mean he'll never make a rookie mistake?  no
Does it mean he's the QB of the future?  maybe
Does it mean he doesn't have to develop more? no

Why can't some of you give credit where credit is due?

[Audit2]

birdman#12, on 12 December 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:

Un-f------believable.......He hit on all the BIGGEST throws.  And all QB's miss on some big throws.  Geez, WTF do you guys want?  He played like a veteran QB on sunday.  And yes, he played as good as people are saying.  

Does that mean he'll do it every week? no
Does it mean he'll never make a rookie mistake?  no
Does it mean he's the QB of the future?  maybe
Does it mean he doesn't have to develop more? no

Why can't some of you give credit where credit is due?

I'm giving the Rook plenty of credit.  The simple truth is the Bucs passing D was atrocious and it was sweet that Foles took advantage of it.  The guy is playing good but a true test is Thursday Night.  Go Eagles!!

[odin8888]

All this talk of a 3rd round pick... the kid plays football, rallies the troops and found a way on a battered team....


Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round of the 2000 draft, had a year+ to learn, and is arguably the best QB in the league!

Not saying Foles is the next coming, but he shows the signs of being a very successful QB for a long time. just in the learning process...


Can you guys go out and make some noise tomorrow night and drown out Cincinnati when their offense is on the field? I doubt it!!!!

[time2rock]

Audit2, on 11 December 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

http://www.phillymag...saw-from-foles/


Foles played a good game but he missed on some big throws.  The screen shots also shows that the Bucs can't cover anybody.  I'm hoping Foles plays well this week against Cincy (Especially for the sake of these worshipers) because this will be a true test for the guy. Foles played well but not nearly as good as some of you are claiming.  Go Eagles!!

Excuse those of us choosing to recognize the fact that Foles seems to improve every week (that is all you can ask of a rookie playing out a lost season), seems to have a knack for playing well in the RZ and for running a 2 min offense.  Unlike any other QB on the roster, he he has upside, intangibles, size, shows poise in the pocket, makes smart decisions, and he seems to have the ability, awareness, and smarts to play the QB position well.  

There is a huge difference between recognizing and appreciating the potential this kid has and proclaiming him to be a great QB at this time.  It doesn't mean he'll become Tom Brady, but it gives hope for the near future, at least to those who are willing to accept hope as a positive in a lost season.

Yes, TB has a poor pass D, but they are fighting for a postseason berth.  They shut down the run and put all the pressure on Foles to lead them to victory - pretty impressive for a 3rd rd rookie (especially considering he is playing behind an OL with Dunlap at LT, Reynolds at C, and missing most of his top weapons - Shady, DJax, Celek, etc.).

Most of us expressing our appreciation for what the kid has shown thus far also realize he is no where near flawless - he certainly has areas on which he needs to work on.  These last few games against some better defenses (Cincy, NYG) will be huge for his development.

[Phila.:chip]

birdman#12, on 12 December 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:

Un-f------believable.......He hit on all the BIGGEST throws.  And all QB's miss on some big throws.  Geez, WTF do you guys want?  He played like a veteran QB on sunday.  And yes, he played as good as people are saying.  

Does that mean he'll do it every week? no
Does it mean he'll never make a rookie mistake?  no
Does it mean he's the QB of the future?  maybe
Does it mean he doesn't have to develop more? no

Why can't some of you give credit where credit is due?

Does that mean he'll do it every week? no, but he's done it every week thus far.
Does it mean he'll never make a rookie mistake?  no
Does it mean he's the QB of the future?  maybe, maybe not
Does it mean he doesn't have to develop more? no, better yet, make that a hell no !

Foles came through in the clutch, but if I'm going to acknowledge that, I have to also acknowledge the mistakes he made and flaws in his game. How did he hit on all the biggest throws ? What about the pass where he threw behind McNutt and right into the defender's hands? Maclin was wide open and running towards the sideline ? What about the plays earlier when he missed Cooper and McNutt on deep balls ? What about the deep ball he missed to a wide open Cooper later in the game ?

[time2rock]

birdman#12, on 12 December 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:

Un-f------believable.......He hit on all the BIGGEST throws.  And all QB's miss on some big throws.  Geez, WTF do you guys want?  He played like a veteran QB on sunday.  And yes, he played as good as people are saying.  

Does that mean he'll do it every week? no
Does it mean he'll never make a rookie mistake?  no
Does it mean he's the QB of the future?  maybe
Does it mean he doesn't have to develop more? no

Why can't some of you give credit where credit is due?

He's a 3rd rd rookie having made just his 4th start - he's bound to have a clunker of a game at some point.  But as long as he rebounds, learns from his mistakes, and shows continual progression, it's all good.  Looking forward to seeing what he can do with a full offseason and with all the missing players on offense back.

[Audit2]

time2rock, on 12 December 2012 - 09:39 AM, said:

Excuse those of us choosing to recognize the fact that Foles seems to improve every week (that is all you can ask of a rookie playing out a lost season), seems to have a knack for playing well in the RZ and for running a 2 min offense.  Unlike any other QB on the roster, he he has upside, intangibles, size, shows poise in the pocket, makes smart decisions, and he seems to have the ability, awareness, and smarts to play the QB position well.  

There is a huge difference between recognizing and appreciating the potential this kid has and proclaiming him to be a great QB at this time.  It doesn't mean he'll become Tom Brady, but it gives hope for the near future, at least to those who are willing to accept hope as a positive in a lost season.

Yes, TB has a poor pass D, but they are fighting for a postseason berth.  They shut down the run and put all the pressure on Foles to lead them to victory - pretty impressive for a 3rd rd rookie (especially considering he is playing behind an OL with Dunlap at LT, Reynolds at C, and missing most of his top weapons - Shady, DJax, Celek, etc.).

Most of us expressing our appreciation for what the kid has shown thus far also realize he is no where near flawless - he certainly has areas on which he needs to work on.  These last few games against some better defenses (Cincy, NYG) will be huge for his development.

Played well in the RZ?  Which game did he play well in besides Tampa?  Cincy will test the Rook, I hope you're right.

[BDAWK_4EVER]

Audit2, on 12 December 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

What board have you been reading??   I don't know of anyone that is rooting for the guy to fail.  In acknowledging the fact that the guy played good not all world like some of you cliff hangers are doing is not rooting against the guy.  As the screen shots have shown the Bucs couldn't cover anyone and Foles missed on some big shots down the field. Cincy will be a test for the rook unlike Tampa who was looking for a reason to bail.

Pick Foles aka learn2reid

[BDAWK_4EVER]

Audit2, on 12 December 2012 - 10:09 AM, said:

Played well in the RZ?  Which game did he play well in besides Tampa?  Cincy will test the Rook, I hope you're right.

I'm pretty sure we were 3-3 against Dallas. Obviously he didn't throw 3 TDs in the red zone, but when was the last time we were perfect in the red zone?

[PhillyGreenMachine]

Jeez, its like everyone expects him to throw to every separated receiver out there.

[time2rock]

Audit2, on 12 December 2012 - 10:09 AM, said:

Played well in the RZ?  Which game did he play well in besides Tampa?  Cincy will test the Rook, I hope you're right.

Was referring to the TB game.  I don't recall him having many RZ opportunities in his previous starts (perhaps 4 in total ... of which I believe he was 50%).  He was 3/5 (60%) against TB.  Even 50% is better than what we've been seeing.

[forevereagles]

time2rock, on 12 December 2012 - 09:39 AM, said:

Excuse those of us choosing to recognize the fact that Foles seems to improve every week (that is all you can ask of a rookie playing out a lost season), seems to have a knack for playing well in the RZ and for running a 2 min offense.  Unlike any other QB on the roster, he he has upside, intangibles, size, shows poise in the pocket, makes smart decisions, and he seems to have the ability, awareness, and smarts to play the QB position well.  

There is a huge difference between recognizing and appreciating the potential this kid has and proclaiming him to be a great QB at this time.  It doesn't mean he'll become Tom Brady, but it gives hope for the near future, at least to those who are willing to accept hope as a positive in a lost season.

Yes, TB has a poor pass D, but they are fighting for a postseason berth.  They shut down the run and put all the pressure on Foles to lead them to victory - pretty impressive for a 3rd rd rookie (especially considering he is playing behind an OL with Dunlap at LT, Reynolds at C, and missing most of his top weapons - Shady, DJax, Celek, etc.).

Most of us expressing our appreciation for what the kid has shown thus far also realize he is no where near flawless - he certainly has areas on which he needs to work on.  These last few games against some better defenses (Cincy, NYG) will be huge for his development.

Thank you for pointing out all  the important reasons we are excited about how much this kid has shown ( in his limited playing time) for being a 3rd rd pick no less. Why anyone calling themselves an Eagles fan wouldn't be impressed or excited for him and for the team  is something I can't understnd.

Back in the preseason it was, " well its preseason. No one game planned for him. Lets see what happens if he has to play in  a regular game" . Well ,now he has, and now we see. We are seeing what we thought we were back then. A kid who understands the game.  A kid who has poise, with a maturity  beyond his years.  Does'nt let miscues rattle him. A kid who has a natural feel for the positon.

Why anyone wouldn't be impressed or excited about his performance is a total mystery.

[PrinceKelby]

Audit2, on 12 December 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

What board have you been reading??   I don't know of anyone that is rooting for the guy to fail.  In acknowledging the fact that the guy played good not all world like some of you cliff hangers are doing is not rooting against the guy.  As the screen shots have shown the Bucs couldn't cover anyone and Foles missed on some big shots down the field. Cincy will be a test for the rook unlike Tampa who was looking for a reason to bail.

For a rookie missing his #1 RB, #1 WR, #1 TE, getting no help in the running game, and having the OL play its worst game ever he was still able to rally the team, draw up a 4th down play that's not even in the playbook, complete it, clock the ball, and then call the game winning play all while NOT turning the ball over it's a pretty damn impressive performance considering the guy you seem hell bent on supporting wouldn't have done near as well.

[nottsfootballfan]

Everyone knows he needs work on the long ball. He missed a handful last week.

You nuthuggers are nnoying.

[eephraim]

Pretty much all the all-22 shows me is that Foles should NOT throw deep passes to anybody named McNutt or Cooper. They're dirt slow.

And he missed some open guys. I say this every time that all-22 is posted. Every QB in the LEAGUE misses open guys. All of them. Including golden boy Brady. That shouldn't be used to judge the QB. Sometimes they aren't missing the guys at all. Sometimes they're making a decision to throw to a guy for other reasons. Like Cooper can't gain yac and Maclin can. Or Clay Harbour may not gain the 1st down or whatever...

These pictures don't show me anything that I didn't see myself. Folsey played NICE.

[Don Corleone]

Audit2, on 12 December 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

What board have you been reading??   I don't know of anyone that is rooting for the guy to fail.  In acknowledging the fact that the guy played good not all world like some of you cliff hangers are doing is not rooting against the guy.  As the screen shots have shown the Bucs couldn't cover anyone and Foles missed on some big shots down the field. Cincy will be a test for the rook unlike Tampa who was looking for a reason to bail.

You Vick sack suckers are, you're lying in wait for him to throw INT's and play poorly, so you can then come in here and create 100 threads about how he's no good, then those of you on Vick's sack will say something like, "we told you, he's a 3rd round pick for a reason."

Am I proclaiming him to be Jesus? NO, he's taken some lumps, he'll most likely take more, but for you to sit here and say someone's excuses are in order, when in fact they aren't excuses at all, just shows you're waiting for him to fail. Qb's have struggled on Thursday, that's a fact, no real time to prepare, because of the short week.

The thing that matters is, when he faces adversity, how does he respond? Does he go into a shell and become rattled, or does he stay poised, keep his eyes down the field, climb the pocket when necessary and deliver the ball with accuracy? I would say he responded well and didn't get rattled. I would answer those other questions with yes. He did all those things against Tampa, even when they pressured him numerous times, sacking him 6 of those. I agree with most here, he's progressing nicely, that's all you can ask for from a rookie QB with only a handful of starts.