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[scott time]

Kolb was 4-0 with the Cardinals this year, without him they're awful.  He was also NFL player of the week twice, wasn't he ?

Foles looks extremely smart.

Kolb appears to be injury-prone.  Take that away and I'd say they both have great potential.

[eglz1]

Foles.  I was a Kolb supporter - until preseason 2010.  Or more like I wasn't a fan of what the Eagles offense had become and was hoping for a positive change.  But Kolb in preseason 2010 after 3 seasons looked worse than Foles did as a rookie.  Is Foles a flash in the pan?  Maybe, the next 3 weeks should tell us a lot.  At least Foles will have had more than 2 starts by the end of the season.

[Cappeeler]

Foles is better than Kolb.

[thedon5]

Kolb was a noodle armed sissy. Foles has the physical tools and the football smarts to be one of the best in the league.

Any weakness Foles has its easily correctable with good coaching and hard work.  He is going to be a star.

[biglou22]

As a huge Kolb fan, I would say Foles for 1 specific treason.

Kold did come with SOME concerns about getting rattled easily.
Foles was considered calm and never got rattled.
But both had great college careers.

[e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!]

Foles. I saw foles play a ton in college since I live out here in AZ. kid took a beating and still came back. If you think we had a bad offensive line arizona had a horrific oline when he was here and yet still put up numbers. Also, he has the physical attributes to play in the nfl. I think kolb can play too but only in specific offenses.

[wvjerome]

Kolb's no longer an Eagle. I've moved on from him, like I moved on from McNabb, and eventually from Vick.

[macgregor]

Some QBs play better when they're not saddled with the title of starter. Both Vick and Kolb can have that said about them. Handling the job of anointed starter is something neither has succeeded at in their careers. Neither has proven durable enough, mentally or physically. Foles OTOH looks great and is progressing well. It's just a little too early to determine if he can handle 'the title' yet. Right now it looks as though he'll be given that opportunity. That's about all one can say.

[AmericanEagle77]

biglou22, on 12 December 2012 - 07:08 AM, said:

As a huge Kolb fan, I would say Foles for 1 specific treason.

Kold did come with SOME concerns about getting rattled easily.
Foles was considered calm and never got rattled.
But both had great college careers.

Foles' calamity is exceptional. I have no idea how he stayed so calm in that Bucs game. He stayed calm, stepped up in the pocket, and for some reason, it seemed like every time he trusted and stepped up in his pocket, the following throw was fantastic.

[blindside]

Foles has swagger and poise that kolb never showed. He also has a better arm.

[iinvincible]

Who can beat captain check down.

[RastaPasta]

AmericanEagle77, on 12 December 2012 - 08:14 AM, said:

Foles' calamity is exceptional. I have no idea how he stayed so calm in that Bucs game. He stayed calm, stepped up in the pocket, and for some reason, it seemed like every time he trusted and stepped up in his pocket, the following throw was fantastic.

Syntax error.

[Phila.:chip]

scott time, on 12 December 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:

Foles looks extremely smart.

How does not finding receivers when they're wide open make someone look smart ?

[Phila.:chip]

iinvincible, on 12 December 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

Who can beat captain check down.

Lieutenant Check down.

[odin8888]

Foles by a lot, Kolb is too frail....

Foles has more upside than our last few quarterbacks IMO... needs to play through and learn!

[we_gotta_believe]

Foles. Much more poise and pocket presence.

[AceofSpades]

The problem with Kolb has always been that he has his mind made up of where the ball is going after leaving the huddle and he stares down receivers. You may get away with it from time to time but after a while it can lead to turnovers. Another problem I'd seen with Kolb is that he tends to feel pressured even before the pressure may get to him. I agree that it feels like Foles has better pocket presence and poise.

[jonnyeagles12]

iinvincible, on 12 December 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

Who can beat captain check down.

That check down to Avant on 4th and 5 wasn't half bad don't you think. Idiot.

[terilyns]

Kolb was not 4-0 this year.

[craig_78]

I never liked how Kolb would take the snap and then sprint backwards 15 yards.  Foles steps up in to the pocket on the other hand.

[Rigormortis]

Klobster has very happy feet and would always seem to take 10 step drop backs

[vic92353]

Kevin Kolb is not NFL material.  The main thing I hated about him  was, when he got hit he gave up and would throw the Ball to anyone that wanted it.  He did that in Philly and he does it in Zona.  He will not remain in the NFL to long.  Foles has a lot of promise ATP.  Plus Foles is a Rookie Kolb was not,  and should have been better prepared for the amount of time he was on the Eagles roster to take over. He didn't learn ish.  I am glad he moved on.  

[surefooted]

AmericanEagle77, on 12 December 2012 - 08:14 AM, said:

Foles' calamity is exceptional. I have no idea how he stayed so calm in that Bucs game. He stayed calm, stepped up in the pocket, and for some reason, it seemed like every time he trusted and stepped up in his pocket, the following throw was fantastic.

That's not the word you were looking for bud.

Phila.:chip, on 12 December 2012 - 09:44 AM, said:

How does not finding receivers when they're wide open make someone look smart ?

All QBs miss open receivers.    What makes a smart QB is the ability to read a defense, take what it gives, audible at the line, etc.  All things Foles has shown so far.

[BDAWK_4EVER]

Phila.:chip, on 12 December 2012 - 09:44 AM, said:

How does not finding receivers when they're wide open make someone look smart ?

Finding them more often than not makes someone look smart. The biggest knock on Foles right now for me is his deep throw accuracy but that can be easily corrected, unlike learning to read defenses and audible accordingly.

biglou22, on 12 December 2012 - 07:08 AM, said:

As a huge Kolb fan, I would say Foles for 1 specific treason.

Kold did come with SOME concerns about getting rattled easily.
Foles was considered calm and never got rattled.
But both had great college careers.

This. Kolb was a puss in the pocket.

[William Rudy]

iinvincible, on 12 December 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

Who can beat captain check down.

This is not a McNabb thread although he did have a great career in Philly dumping the ball off to Westbrook.  Westbrook sure was able to pad McNabb's stats by turning those five yard checkdowns into 30 yard gains.

[bobbywizdum]

William Rudy, on 12 December 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

This is not a McNabb thread although he did have a great career in Philly dumping the ball off to Westbrook.  Westbrook sure was able to pad McNabb's stats by turning those five yard checkdowns into 30 yard gains.

its kind of funny. You are trying to make an attack on mcnabb that is actually a compliment to him. If you check the ball down to the back in the flat who then runs for 30 yards...that means you went threw your progressions and chose the safe throw which resulted in a big play. Hence that is a good decision made by the quarterback. If anything truely padded mcnabb's stats you could argue that it was the bombs and the screen game. Considering our deep balls and screen game have been nowhere near as effective without mcnabb then that wouldn't be a very good argument for his suckage either lol

[ckudrick]

I don't follow college ball so don't know anything about either of their college careers.  But I was never sold on Kolb and never bought into the hype ... I just didn't see anything special.  Now, I was a big McNabb fan (and am not a big Vick fan) so I admit that there may have been some subconscious bias at play.  However, Foles has shown me some flashes that I just never saw in Kolb.  Hope that he continues to progress.

[AceofSpades]

scott time, on 12 December 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:

Kolb was 4-0 with the Cardinals this year, without him they're awful.  He was also NFL player of the week twice, wasn't he ?

Foles looks extremely smart.

Kolb appears to be injury-prone.  Take that away and I'd say they both have great potential.

3-2 actually.

[Baynit]

Foles

[Dirty 30 Sucks]

no Kolb doesnt have enough arm strength and that kills him. Foles has one of the strongest arms in the NFL. Kolb struggled to get balls to WR's that need zip on them.