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[PhillyEaglez47]

A friend and I was debating about the future of the NFC EAST! We were debating about which teams in the NFC EAST we feel will have the best chance of dominating the division over the next 10 years or so.

He thinks Philly will be the bottom feeders of the NFC EAST for the next 10 years because of the arrival of RG3!

Redskins have RG3 who is a beast and will only get better, the Giants have Eli and a veteran "superbowl winning" group of guys who will contend for the superbowls for the next 5-6 years, and the Cowboys, who don't look too promising, but they're looking much better than the Eagles are right about now

Foles is not great point blank, he never will be anything more than GOOD AT BEST!

He can't compete with the likes of RG3 and Eli, he just can't!!!! He can get better but I don't see him being an elite QB who can lead the Eagles to a superbowl win!

We are going to be making a lot of trades this offseason, I see them cleaning house and rebuilding from stratch!

RG3 and the Redskins are going to be a major threat in the NFC EAST over the next 10 years.... RG3 isn't going to miss the playoffs too many years, I see the Redskins winning our division 5 of the next 10 years

So we definitely won't be a threat in the NFC East for the next 3 years for sure now that we're rebuilding! We won't be able to compete with the Redskins and Giants... not even the Cowboys so the question is... do you see us being in the next 10 years what the Redskins was in this division in the last 10 years, the doormat bottom feeding team

[FanSinceWayBack]

Who does RGIII get compared to?
How big is RGIII?

Hes been hurt twice already. He hasnt had near as good of season as Scam Newton had last year. Didnt teams figure him out with a full offseason to prepare? What makes you think the same wont happen in RGIII's case?

As far as the Eagles and competing in the NFCE that all depends on who they bring in as HC, and who he brings in as OC & DC. 10 Years is a long time. Eagles being the doormat for the next 3-5 is more realistic, even though I dont believe that to be the case.

[mike030270]

Well if RG3 doesn't start sliding feet first someone's going to take him out again with longer repercussions

[bring the wood]

PhillyEaglez47, on 14 December 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

A friend and I was debating about the future of the NFC EAST! We were debating about which teams in the NFC EAST we feel will have the best chance of dominating the division over the next 10 years or so.

He thinks Philly will be the bottom feeders of the NFC EAST for the next 10 years because of the arrival of RG3!

Redskins have RG3 who is a beast and will only get better, the Giants have Eli and a veteran "superbowl winning" group of guys who will contend for the superbowls for the next 5-6 years, and the Cowboys, who don't look too promising, but they're looking much better than the Eagles are right about now

Foles is not great point blank, he never will be anything more than GOOD AT BEST!

He can't compete with the likes of RG3 and Eli, he just can't!!!! He can get better but I don't see him being an elite QB who can lead the Eagles to a superbowl win!

We are going to be making a lot of trades this offseason, I see them cleaning house and rebuilding from stratch!

RG3 and the Redskins are going to be a major threat in the NFC EAST over the next 10 years.... RG3 isn't going to miss the playoffs too many years, I see the Redskins winning our division 5 of the next 10 years

So we definitely won't be a threat in the NFC East for the next 3 years for sure now that we're rebuilding! We won't be able to compete with the Redskins and Giants... not even the Cowboys so the question is... do you see us being in the next 10 years what the Redskins was in this division in the last 10 years, the doormat bottom feeding team

What makes you an authority on football-(3 posts).  Foles will be at the least an above average QB, if not elite.  The wide nine killed this team, so did turnovers all year. Eagles have many good young players.  Colt Anderson way better,faster than Nate Allen and Coleman combined. I don't care how small he is. He hits and shows up on long pass defense. Haven't seen that in 3 years.They have him sitting the bench while those two guys playing for 2 years. One game w/o the wide 9 and the line is awesome. Cut Nambi, he stinks, and get a bone crusher at safety w/ the 1st pick or the ND linebacker.
Juan Castillo got a bad rap from Reid while Washburn was the culprit all along.

[CountBlah]

If Howie is left in charge,  I can see the next three years being a wasteland.  After that we will have to being some new blood in again to oversee he big boy operations.  So I can see five years of suckatude.  But I really hope it's not more than that,  with the assumption Howie craps the bed that is.

[Footballman175]

Eli Manning is 31 Years Old. He is not going anywhere for 5-7 years. Giants are set.

Tony Romo is 32 Years Old. He will be gone soon. They will need to find a new QB situation asap. Cowboys are not set.

Robert Griffin III is 22 Years Old. 10 Years of Football ahead for this kid. Washington is set.

Nick Foles is 23 Years Old, but has not shown me anything yet that i am comfortable with him as the 2013 Starter. (Tampa was nice, but the worst defense in the NFL!)

Unless the Eagles find out their QB for the future, what do i see for the NFC East? Giants and Skins at the top for a while.

[Nitro276]

No way the Eagles become the doormat of the East for the next 10.  RG III will not be able to stay healthy.  He looked like a rag doll when he got smashed by Haloti Ngata and suffered the knee sprain or whatever that was in the Ravens game.  He is a special talent, but he does not have the body to have a long and succesful career at QB in the NFL.  Only QB who looks worse is that skinny-rat Kaepernick in SF.

If Lurie has any kind of soul sitting stonefaced and embarrassed in his sky box this season, change is a comin'....

[kmass88]

I'll have to wait to see how they are next year.  But I see us not contending for jack ish for the next 2-4 years.  We'll see what the staff looks like in a year or so. Lurie hit out of the park with Reid. But this next coaching decision is probably the biggest decision he's had to make in his entire football executive career.

[phonz3]

Footballman175, on 14 December 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

Eli Manning is 31 Years Old. He is not going anywhere for 5-7 years. Giants are set.

Tony Romo is 32 Years Old. He will be gone soon. They will need to find a new QB situation asap. Cowboys are not set.

Robert Griffin III is 22 Years Old. 10 Years of Football ahead for this kid. Washington is set.

Nick Foles is 23 Years Old, but has not shown me anything yet that i am comfortable with him as the 2013 Starter. (Tampa was nice, but the worst defense in the NFL!)

Unless the Eagles find out their QB for the future, what do i see for the NFC East? Giants and Skins at the top for a while.

Yeah - that is a little simplistic.  QB is important but there are other players who can contribute to the outcome of games.  Maybe we could win with gasp defense and a good running game.  The Steelers, Ravens and Giants have done pretty well with great defenses and servicable offenses.

[Nitro276]

Footballman175, on 14 December 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

Eli Manning is 31 Years Old. He is not going anywhere for 5-7 years. Giants are set.

Tony Romo is 32 Years Old. He will be gone soon. They will need to find a new QB situation asap. Cowboys are not set.

Robert Griffin III is 22 Years Old. 10 Years of Football ahead for this kid. Washington is set.

Nick Foles is 23 Years Old, but has not shown me anything yet that i am comfortable with him as the 2013 Starter. (Tampa was nice, but the worst defense in the NFL!)

Unless the Eagles find out their QB for the future, what do i see for the NFC East? Giants and Skins at the top for a while.

I have a problem with your Foles analysis, it is premature.  No matter how you slice it, Foles led TWO, yes TWO touchdown scoring drives on the road with under 4:00 to go to win the game.  It was a high-pressure situation, and Foles DELIVERED.  Yes, he nearly threw an interception in the middle of that, but he didn't.  I can't say how many times I had that sinking feeling inside when McNabb, even in his prime, was put in that same situation where he had to deliver.

[Footballman175]

I agree with you guys.... My Foles analysis is a little premature. I remember when Donovan's rookie year was pretty bad at times....but there was something about Donovan that year that i knew he was going to be the future. I just don't feel that with Foles yet.

However, the Eagles luckily still have 2 games left, both against Division rivals. These last 2 games are the 2 biggest games of Foles career

[FanSinceWayBack]

Footballman175, on 14 December 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

I agree with you guys.... My Foles analysis is a little premature. I remember when Donovan's rookie year was pretty bad at times....but there was something about Donovan that year that i knew he was going to be the future. I just don't feel that with Foles yet.

Its been awhile since any Eagles fan has had to have that feeling. Unless everyone was sold on Kolb? I was fan of the Eagles, but not on the boards then. I can only imagine though

[PhillyEaglez47]

kmass88, on 14 December 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

I'll have to wait to see how they are next year.  But I see us not contending for jack ish for the next 2-4 years.  We'll see what the staff looks like in a year or so. Lurie hit out of the park with Reid. But this next coaching decision is probably the biggest decision he's had to make in his entire football executive career.

Yea I see us being punching bags of the NFL for the next couple years

sigh~

I say that because it seems like we have a lot of issues we need to work out before this team can even be able to compete against average teams

I mean we have been blown out 5-6 times this year by mediocre teams and that's just not acceptable with all this talent we have

[Baynit]

It depends

The Giants im guessing despite typically being a mediocre regular season team will probably be serious players for the super bowl this season and most likely for the next 4 or 5 seasons anyways.  But they are beatable.  The thing that makes them good is they are well coached in getting the job done when they need to take care of business.  They'll always be struggling to get into the playoffs but if they do get there look out...

The Skins are going to be tough at least for the next decade or so, they will be a real threat when they get Orakpo and that other injured linebacker (who are both out for the season) back.  But their fortunes will ride on the health of RG3.  I can see them being serious contenders one season and the next in last place because RG3 cant stay healthy.  Aside from Morris who's a nice find as a rookie weapons on offense are rather ho hum.  Garcon is old and the rest are your run of the mill types nobody that stands out.  When the defense gets healthy and if they get some more weapons for RG3 look out for the skins.

The Cowboys I think are the team that will be the rag doll of the NFC east.  They wont be a bad team for at least another 3 or 4 seasons but they've been hyping this team up with Romo and they just dont get the job done...They'll be 8-8 or so for the next handful of seasons then Romo, Ware, and rest of the vets will retire and then they'll really become the rag doll.  


I dont see this being a long rebuild for the Eagles.  I see Lurie fielding a team that should challenge for a playoff spot right away next season.  Do I think it will happen probably not.  Alot of it just depends on Nick Foles.  If Foles has more games like he did against Tampa then well 10-6 is a possibility with a healthy offensive line, two back sets, compitant safeties, and a coaching staff that is willing to make changes and not stick with the gameplan despite the entire NFL knowing what your doing.   (remember we'll have a last place schedule).

My guess is that probably wont be the case Foles might struggle somewhat, and the roster will probably stumble a bit with the new playbooks and coaching staff.  7-9 or 8-8 is more likely next season.  2014 is the year things might start to look good again.

[Footballman175]

Baynit, on 14 December 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

Aside from Morris who's a nice find as a rookie weapons on offense are rather ho hum.  Garcon is old and the rest are your run of the mill types nobody that stands out.  When the defense gets healthy and if they get some more weapons for RG3 look out for the skins.

Pierre Garcon is 26 years old...is that now old in the NFL? The guy has been playing great when healthy. Lot of potential there.

So....

RGIII
Alfred Morris (3rd Leading Rusher)..best Rookie Runningback in NFL
Pierre Garcon
Fred Davis - enormous amount of TALENT
And throw some young speedsters in there like Leonard Hankerson, Josh Morgan, and Aldrick Robinson....

That is one DANGEROUS offense for the next 10 years. Say the Redskins go out in the 2013 free agency and get a player like Greg Jennings, Bowe, or Mike Wallace...jesus it's like a video game.

[BDAWK_4EVER]

If RG3 does well next year I'll be a little more worried. But right now he's throwing maybe 20 times a game, and the Skins are running the read option just like the Panthers last year. Once teams get it all figured out we'll see what kind of QB he is like we did with Cam this year

[GNS_CLFD]

I guess I'll go to sleep and come back for the 2023 season.......

With free agency things can turn for any team pretty quickly.    RGIII is a talent, but there is no guarantee that defenses won't figure out how to defend him.   I don't think the Redskins D is championship caliber.    I just don't believe Romo is going to be anything more than he already is.    Giants seem to be able to pull it together every few years but Eli is 31 as someone pointed out.

Bottom line is, it will depend on who the Eagles hire as coach and what changes they make with the roster.    I won't be 10 years though and I think Foles has talent too.

[Baynit]

Footballman175, on 14 December 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

Pierre Garcon is 26 years old...is that now old in the NFL? The guy has been playing great when healthy. Lot of potential there.

So....

RGIII
Alfred Morris (3rd Leading Rusher)..best Rookie Runningback in NFL
Pierre Garcon
Fred Davis - enormous amount of TALENT
And throw some young speedsters in there like Leonard Hankerson, Josh Morgan, and Aldrick Robinson....

That is one DANGEROUS offense for the next 10 years. Say the Redskins go out in the 2013 free agency and get a player like Greg Jennings, Bowe, or Mike Wallace...jesus it's like a video game.

Oh I agree with you the Skins will be dangerous but the weapons they have right now is where we disagree.   I said in my post Morris is a nice find or something to that effect. But the remaining guys including Garcon (which I admit I think I had him confused with Moss) I thought Garcon was older but in any event Garcon, Morgan, and Hankerson are a nice supporting cast but wheres the #1?  Alls I said is when they get some weapons around RG3.  No doubt they'll go after one of the bigger WR available this offseason.  Its not like I was saying they have to do a major restructure of the offense, they just need to add some more weapons.

And yes I considered Davis when I made my post he's good when he wants to be but injuries and incosistancy seem to be holding this guy back which at this point in his career (at least the inconsistancy) shouldnt be an issue.

[SNOORDA]

Every year is a new year and new hope. I refuse to asasume the eagles will suck again next year. Looking forward to a new head coach and going from there. None of the other teams in the division are world beaters or dynasties so....

[HaroldTheSecond]

I dunno ... if the London expansion team goes into the NFC East the Eagles will have someone to finish ahead of for a couple of years.

[inhumanehuman]

As others have said, within 5 years RG3 is gonna be crippled if the Skins offense doesn't get better.

The Cowboys are going to be completely blown up soon if they keep disappointing.

The Giants are a good football team with great coaching, but they are a bit of a mystery most of the time. Eventually, this regimes luck will run out.

The Eagles have a chance to rebuild for a couple of years, take advantage of a rebuilding Cowboys/Giants and build a team that can compete against RG3 and have a pretty darn good shot at being a dominant force within 2-3 years.