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[97is]

Foles is obviously not the answer going forward. Vick has proven he can lead a team to the playoffs and win playoff games. Get the right coach in here with vick and we are instant contenders. With foles we waste a year or two before we realize he is garbage.

[BleedinGreen710]

Nick Foles (behind our excuse for an offensive line, and without our starting HB and WR) has a better TD/INT ratio and a higher passer rating then rookie of the year candidate Andrew Luck and yet somehow after 3 games hes 'obviously not the answer going forward'?

[IHateDemCowboys]

You think we are just one COACH away from the Super Bowl??

[MD Eagles Fan]

97is, on 15 December 2012 - 07:21 AM, said:

Foles is obviously not the answer going forward. Vick has proven he can lead a team to the playoffs and win playoff games. Get the right coach in here with vick and we are instant contenders. With foles we waste a year or two before we realize he is garbage.

Sanchez from the jets also has proven he can win playoff games, do want him as your QB?   How many years has it been since Vick has won a playoff game?  or even a playoff game for us?

[Cappeeler]

Dude signing Vick has set this team back in the first place.

[philly75]

Great post! Lmfao

[joegus]

The only thing that made sense in your post was getting the right coach. What makes you think Vick, at 32 years old, is going to get us anywhere? What has he done except that one fluke year to prove that he is a consistent QB. I don't believe he has ever played an entire season without being injured.  

Vick at best is a human highlight reel. An experiment that failed. Not a bad football player but not one who will be consistent and get you to a Championship.
Something that desperately needs to happen in Philly.

[joespadaro]

Such a dumb topic

Matt Cassel proved he could lead the chiefs to the playoffs, maybe his release will set that team back years

[forevereagles]

BleedinGreen710, on 15 December 2012 - 07:25 AM, said:

Nick Foles (behind our excuse for an offensive line, and without our starting HB and WR) has a better TD/INT ratio and a higher passer rating then rookie of the year candidate Andrew Luck and yet somehow after 3 games hes 'obviously not the answer going forward'?

these are all Vick fans who say  Foles is garbage.. Anyone who understands there is more to being a starting (franchise) QB than just using their legs ( Vick)  to avoid the rush. Or throw deep down field ( not always very accurately either) would say the kid is garbage. Pay these idiots no mind. Vick and they will all be moving on (thankfully) in another couple of weeks.

[nottsfootballfan]

No career back to back winning seasons, same number of playoff wins as Rex Grossman.

[forevereagles]

97is, on 15 December 2012 - 07:21 AM, said:

Foles is obviously not the answer going forward. Vick has proven he can lead a team to the playoffs and win playoff games. Get the right coach in here with vick and we are instant contenders. With foles we waste a year or two before we realize he is garbage.

LMAO. !  he sure has shown that these last two seasons huh?  Vick is...NOT the QB you delude yourself t ino believing he is! Stop spewing that nonsense. You insult everyones intelligence who knows differently.

You may make him look like the world beater in Madden. But he is far from that in a real game. Have you forgotten about his 14 turnovers this season? Or did you deliberately close your eyes when they were taking place?

I don't know what kind of QB Foles turns out to be. But one thing I do know. That you, nor anyone else can know that either, after just 5 games of experience. Behind an oline  and other position players  made up of mostly of 3rd stringers and undrafted players.

And in spite of that. He has taken less hits, sacks. Has turned the ball over less  (in the same amount of  games that Vick was turning it over  like it was a hot potato) than the great 10 yr seasoned vet. Yet according to you , and all the Vick delusionals, he is garbage and Vick is elite?  Something awfully wrong with that analysis.

[Audit2]

BleedinGreen710, on 15 December 2012 - 07:25 AM, said:

Nick Foles (behind our excuse for an offensive line, and without our starting HB and WR) has a better TD/INT ratio and a higher passer rating then rookie of the year candidate Andrew Luck and yet somehow after 3 games hes 'obviously not the answer going forward'?

Throwing checkdowns help with his passer rating.

[[TSM]_PimpDaddyPain]

Meh......I can't agree here.  I think Foles has at least shown enough to deserve to fight for a job in training camp next year.  Whether we draft another QB or bring in a veteran, I'd have an open competition.  Not sure who's gonna be available, and the draft is weak.

But hopefully it will all be up to the new GM and head coach.

[PoconoDon]

Op,

Losing Vick is the ONLY way to move forward.......

[lorddevn]

Audit2, on 15 December 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

Throwing checkdowns help with his passer rating.

The play calling hasn't changed, just the execution by the QB...If there is nothing deep there is no reason to hold onto the ball forever until it is there, get rid of the ball and gain positive yards...Scoring a TD counts the same if it is scored within 40 seconds or 7 minutes...Do not fault Foles for making smart decision with the football by throwing check downs instead of into double coverage

[SweetlyMiixed]

97is, on 15 December 2012 - 07:21 AM, said:

Foles is obviously not the answer going forward. Vick has proven he can lead a team to the playoffs and win playoff games. Get the right coach in here with vick and we are instant contenders. With foles we waste a year or two before we realize he is garbage.

Everyone can say whatever but I agree.. I think Vick would have won Thurs game. I also think he would have beat the Cowboys, the schedule was alot easier for Foles. Teams are excited and happy to play with him in as QB because its an easy win. I bet we are going to lose with him in against the redskins and Giants who Vick would probably beat. The defense is playing better now and the rookies are playing better than the Vets Vick had IMO. Say whatever you want about me. I think with Vick sitting on the bench for the rest of the season might really do him some good. Let his body rest after all the hits he's taken, get a new Oline, and let him and Foles compete for the job in the offseason. If the Eagles have a better option than I am all for it. But If we start Foles next season we are not making the playoffs and will have the same ****ty record. He's 1-6 LOL..... Dont even try to compare him to other Rookies who actually win games.

[JustAnotherEaglesFan]

IHateDemCowboys, on 15 December 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

You think we are just one COACH away from the Super Bowl??

Colts 2-14 2011
Colts 9-4 playoffs 2012
49ers 6-10 2010
49ers 13-3 NFCCC 2011

[CountBlah]

Having Vick set this franchise back three years now.  Good Job OP,  you officially know nothing about football.  Good Job.

[bobbywizdum]

SweetlyMiixed, on 15 December 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

Everyone can say whatever but I agree.. I think Vick would have won Thurs game. I also think he would have beat the Cowboys, the schedule was alot easier for Foles. Teams are excited and happy to play with him in as QB because its an easy win. I bet we are going to lose with him in against the redskins and Giants who Vick would probably beat. The defense is playing better now and the rookies are playing better than the Vets Vick had IMO. Say whatever you want about me. I think with Vick sitting on the bench for the rest of the season might really do him some good. Let his body rest after all the hits he's taken, get a new Oline, and let him and Foles compete for the job in the offseason. If the Eagles have a better option than I am all for it. But If we start Foles next season we are not making the playoffs and will have the same ****ty record. He's 1-6 LOL..... Dont even try to compare him to other Rookies who actually win games.

explain to me how vick (who averaged 16ppg all season) would have made any difference in thursday's game? Foles had nothing to do with the 3 fumbles,blocked punt,and botched kickoff return that lead to our demise. He had one interception which did lead to 7 points. He couldn't even get on the field because of the turnovers after that point. IN went from 17-13 to 34-13 in nearly the blink of an eye. No qb is going to win a game with the equivalent of 6 turnovers.

[Excel]

It's just stunning the lack of knowledge on these boards. Unbelievable. Nick Foles = Unknown. Mike Vick = Known. You already know Mike Vick couldn't get it done and yet we have these posts. This is why you don't let your kids do drugs. This is why you kids shouldn't be sniffing aerosols, and Freon. Unreal.

[Audit2]

lorddevn, on 15 December 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

The play calling hasn't changed, just the execution by the QB...If there is nothing deep there is no reason to hold onto the ball forever until it is there, get rid of the ball and gain positive yards...Scoring a TD counts the same if it is scored within 40 seconds or 7 minutes...Do not fault Foles for making smart decision with the football by throwing check downs instead of into double coverage

Nothing open?  The guys are getting open Kolb 2.0 can't make the throws.  Smart or scared?

[Solomon]

97is, on 15 December 2012 - 07:21 AM, said:

Foles is obviously not the answer going forward. Vick has proven he can lead a team to the playoffs and win playoff games. Get the right coach in here with vick and we are instant contenders. With foles we waste a year or two before we realize he is garbage.

[bigmac65]

I thought that Reids policy is that a player does not lose starting position due to injury that once healthy
they start again. Jamal Jackson found out how that policy is ignored when Reid wants someone else to start. Vick is to practice full on this week so we will see if he starts come Sun. if he doesn't then Reids word don't mean squat. I think Foles has got some skills we keep in mind he is a rookie and is going to make some mistakes and playing behind a poor Oline, it will take too much time to develop him if they want to compete next season.

[skipsharp]

bigmac65, on 15 December 2012 - 09:40 AM, said:

I thought that Reids policy is that a player does not lose starting position due to injury that once healthy
they start again. Jamal Jackson found out how that policy is ignored when Reid wants someone else to start. Vick is to practice full on this week so we will see if he starts come Sun. if he doesn't then Reids word don't mean squat. I think Foles has got some skills we keep in mind he is a rookie and is going to make some mistakes and playing behind a poor Oline, it will take too much time to develop him if they want to compete next season.

How do you think Vick got the job in the first place?

Reid's word has been worthless for a while now.

[JustAnotherEaglesFan]

bigmac65, on 15 December 2012 - 09:40 AM, said:

I thought that Reids policy is that a player does not lose starting position due to injury that once healthy
they start again. Jamal Jackson found out how that policy is ignored when Reid wants someone else to start. Vick is to practice full on this week so we will see if he starts come Sun. if he doesn't then Reids word don't mean squat. I think Foles has got some skills we keep in mind he is a rookie and is going to make some mistakes and playing brhind a poor Oline, it will take too much time to develop him if they want to compete next season.

Reid said Foles is the starter for the rest of the year whether Vick is healthy or not like 3 weeks ago and then reiterated it after the TNF game.

[Solomon]

OP reaches new levels of stupid with each post.

[filcanman]

False

[eglz1]

skipsharp, on 15 December 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

How do you think Vick got the job in the first place?

Reid's word has been worthless for a while now.

We're supposed to ignore that inconvenient truth, I think.

[skipsharp]

eglz1, on 15 December 2012 - 10:41 AM, said:

We're supposed to ignore that inconvenient truth, I think.

Right. Sorry.

[judunno]

BleedinGreen710, on 15 December 2012 - 07:25 AM, said:

Nick Foles (behind our excuse for an offensive line, and without our starting HB and WR) has a better TD/INT ratio and a higher passer rating then rookie of the year candidate Andrew Luck and yet somehow after 3 games hes 'obviously not the answer going forward'?

making such a comparison proves your ignorance