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#1 SBorBust

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:56 PM

Is anyone watching this Sunday Night game between SF and NE? This is incredible.

You know what you don't see? Desean Jackson type quitters. Does anyone doubt that he would have walked to the lockerroom when the score got around 31-3.

Then, after the Patriots come back to tie the game it takes two plays for the score to become 38-31. Tremendous poise by the 49ers.

Both teams are showing such tremendous heart. It's not about running in shorts. It's not about bench presses and vertical jumps. It's great coaches leading poised, intelligent men who love to play football.

I'm officially done putting much stock at all in combine numbers. I hope the next coach feels the same.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:01 AM

what's with the djax hate? it's called this league is weak across the board. no one in the league stands out, as a dominant team.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:04 AM

View Postmwz1970, on 17 December 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:

what's with the djax hate? it's called this league is weak across the board. no one in the league stands out, as a dominant team.

i dunno why they hating on djax he played with a lot of heart this season

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:24 AM

i agree with last 2 posters...and F*** OP with the D Jax hate

If we had a team with 30 guys with DUI's , 20 guys who beat their wives, and 3 dog killers AND we won super bowls I COULD CARE LESS about the individuals on the team and their problems

Desean Jackson isn't the problem on this team

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:24 AM

You mean like the time he quit when we were losing on the road to the Giants 31-10 with 8 min left???? Oh ok

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:45 AM

I don't think Desean is a quitter - phillyfan makes a good point.  

I do agree with the good coach leading men who have heart.  Some teams have it, others don't.  We have been without heart or "soft" for quite some time.

I just said today - its been so long since the Eagles have had a big, big game like this.  I miss those days - I've forgotten what its like to watch a huge game.  The last time I was amped over a huge game may have been 3-4 seasons ago.  Before you know it, the rebuild will have been done and big games will be on the horizon - wishful thinking.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:54 AM

What I saw in that game were two coaches who refuse to accept mediocrity as the norm,  and players who are a direct reflection of that.  Those teams are 10-4 and 10-3-1.

Andy Reid's Eagles,  4-10.  The exact opposite.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:39 AM

I totally despise Harbaugh, I think he is a sphincter...but he has got his team playing great football.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:43 AM

View Postdeevo82, on 17 December 2012 - 06:39 AM, said:

I totally despise Harbaugh, I think he is a sphincter...but he has got his team playing great football.

If Harbaugh is a sphincter,  then what is Reid?

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:54 AM

It's called great leadership.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:01 AM

View PostSBorBust, on 16 December 2012 - 11:56 PM, said:

Is anyone watching this Sunday Night game between SF and NE? This is incredible.

You know what you don't see? Desean Jackson type quitters. Does anyone doubt that he would have walked to the lockerroom when the score got around 31-3.

Then, after the Patriots come back to tie the game it takes two plays for the score to be 38-31. Tremendous poise by the 49ers.

Both teams are showing such tremendous heart. It's not about running in shorts. It's not about bench presses and vertical jumps. It's great coaches leading poised, intelligent men who love to play football.

I'm officially done putting much stock at all in combine numbers. I hope the next coach feels the same.


1st,,, you would be correct that the silly COMBINE numbers are about as useless as the old TATS on a Bull. And until these moron "talent evaluators" and supposed "experts" stop using those numbers as the bible the draft will always be a disaster. And there will always be the incredible average of 3 out of 10 top 10 picks to be busts.
But what the hell do I know. They are the "experts" and they keep doing what has failed miserably. And it's excepted.

2nd - are you talking about the DJAX on the Eagles ?? You know, the DJAX that was a big part of the "miracle at the Meadowlands part 2" ???
That DJAX ???

I didn't watch the game last night as I find the NFL currently unwatchable. But considering that the mighty 49ers defense is supposed to be so great, giving up 24 pts in the 4th quarter is rather embarrassing and shows again how bad this friggen league is. I don't care who the other team is. And 31 pts in the second 1/2 ???? Really. And that is good football ???
Hurry up Spring Training.

The defending SB champs get embarrassed again ??? Nice. Looking through the recaps it looks like it was another stellar Sunday of slop.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:32 AM

wow random desean haiting. lame. fail.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:32 AM

View Postbiglou22, on 17 December 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

I didn't watch the game last night as I find the NFL currently unwatchable.

If you thought that last night's game,  49ers @ Patriots,  was "unwatchable",  then for the life of me,  I can't see how you could bare to watch ANY of this Andy Reid coached Philadelphia Eagles's games this season or last season.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:33 AM

View Postkb420, on 17 December 2012 - 06:43 AM, said:

If Harbaugh is a sphincter,  then what is Reid?
a good person?

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:34 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 17 December 2012 - 07:33 AM, said:

a good person?

A terrible coach?

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:34 AM

View Postkb420, on 17 December 2012 - 06:43 AM, said:

If Harbaugh is a sphincter, then what is Reid?

i think Reid is a nice guy. A bit bumbling at times and very stubborn but I don't hate him. Am grateful for the success he has brought us but I really wish we had a SB under him, and I wish him the best for the future. Agree he has to move on as he has came to the end of the road with us.

I think Harbaugh's personality is really grating. Mind you, Belichik, Lombardi, Coughlin, Jimmy Johnson - would never win a popularity contest but they win championships.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:36 AM

"hey i was watching a football game last night night and it hit me desean isnt playing in this game, he quit on the patriots!!!!! Wait desean plays for the pats right? Tom brady is his QB right? oh wait it isnt i hope nobody points that out to me" - OP train of thought.

View Postkb420, on 17 December 2012 - 07:34 AM, said:

A terrible coach?
A good coach whos voice has gone dim?

harbaugh hasnt done anything AR hasnt done yet.

oh u fickle eagles fans.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:40 AM

If it takes a head coach with a terrible personality to win a Superbowl,  then so be it.  Go out and get a "sphincter" to coach this team.  In my opinion,  it can't be any worse than than "gotta do a better job" for 14 years and winning nothing.

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View PostBillTheButcher, on 17 December 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:


A good coach whos voice has gone dim?

harbaugh hasnt done anything AR hasnt done yet.

oh u fickle eagles fans.

You're right.  I'm being hard on the guy.  He takes full responsibility. He get's it. He just has to do a better job.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:46 AM

View Postkb420, on 17 December 2012 - 07:40 AM, said:

If it takes a head coach with a terrible personality to win a Superbowl,  then so be it.  Go out and get a "sphincter" to coach this team.  In my opinion,  it can't be any worse than than "gotta do a better job" for 14 years and winning nothing.

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You're right.  I'm being hard on the guy.  He takes full responsibility. He get's it. He just has to do a better job.
the ole empty trophy case pic. when u post that and your an eagles fan thats like you dissing yourself.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:49 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 17 December 2012 - 07:46 AM, said:

the ole empty trophy case pic. when u post that and your an eagles fan thats like you dissing yourself.

No.  I'm not dissing myself.  I'm just trying to show all of the Andy Reid apologists the fruits of his 14 years of labor here in Philadelphia.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:52 AM

View Postkb420, on 17 December 2012 - 07:49 AM, said:

No.  I'm not dissing myself.  I'm just trying to show all of the Andy Reid apologists the fruits of his 14 years of labor here in Philadelphia.
no you are dissing yourself, andy hasnt always been the coach. you are an eagles fan. you are dissing yourself.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:57 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 17 December 2012 - 07:52 AM, said:

no you are dissing yourself, andy hasnt always been the coach. you are an eagles fan. you are dissing yourself.

That's your opinion. I respect that,  but I disagree,  and yes I have lived in Philadelphia my entire life and have been an Eagles fan the entire time.  I'll be at the game on Sunday,  and I want this team to win a Superbowl.  

Maybe this organization and fan base needs to diss itself.  

"The first step towards solving a problem is admitting that you have one."  

Here's the problem:

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:00 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 17 December 2012 - 07:46 AM, said:

the ole empty trophy case pic. when u post that and your an eagles fan thats like you dissing yourself.
He's posted that same image in about a hundred different threads lately.  It's getting tiresome.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:01 AM

View Posttime2rock, on 17 December 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

He's posted that same image in about a hundred different threads lately.  It's getting tiresome.
i kno. he likes dissing himself. unless he is really a cowboy fan trolling, yeah ill go with cowboy fan trolling.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:02 AM

View Posttime2rock, on 17 December 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

He's posted that same image in about a hundred different threads lately.  It's getting tiresome.

What's tiresome is the fact that it's going to remain empty for the foreseeable future.  

Truth hurts.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:02 AM

View Postkb420, on 17 December 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:

That's your opinion. I respect that,  but I disagree,  and yes I have lived in Philadelphia my entire life and have been an Eagles fan the entire time.  I'll be at the game on Sunday,  and I want this team to win a Superbowl.  

Maybe this organization and fan base needs to diss itself.  

"The first step towards solving a problem is admitting that you have one."  

Here's the problem:

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Have some self respect.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:02 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 17 December 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

i kno. he likes dissing himself. unless he is really a cowboy fan trolling, yeah ill go with cowboy fan trolling.

Not a chance.  I'm a die hard fan!!!!

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:03 AM

View Postkb420, on 17 December 2012 - 07:49 AM, said:

No.  I'm not dissing myself.  I'm just trying to show all of the Andy Reid apologists the fruits of his 14 years of labor here in Philadelphia.
and no you are really showing the fruits of every eagles team since the super bowl was created. lol

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:03 AM

View PostBillTheButcher, on 17 December 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

Have some self respect.

Face the truth.  We've been conditioned to accept mediocrity.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:04 AM

View Postkb420, on 17 December 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

Not a chance.  I'm a die hard fan!!!!
That is now in question because of your actions. You can say it all you want now its time to act like it. smh




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