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[Erie]

Dave,

I'm confused and perhaps in the dark as an out of town fan. What necessitated Andy's statement today about Garret? I feel like he addressed this in the preseason. I'm unsure why he needed to revisit this today. What am I missing?

[Solomon]

It was discovered today that Garrett was in possesion of steriods.

[patpikunas]

Solomon, on 17 December 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

It was discovered today that Garrett was in possesion of steriods.

... among many other drugs and paraphernalia.

Hard to imagine how all of this could have been going on in a dorm room in training camp with all those people around.

Incredibly sad and incredibly tragic.

[CaliEagle]

It sure doesn't contribute to a positive image of the organization/team.  It's possible he wasn't giving it to Eagles players, but it definitely creates speculation and could warrant an investigation.

[VaBeach_Eagle]

Erie, on 17 December 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

What am I missing?

Possibly the USA Today story in today's paper.

[Erie]

Thanks all. See that Lurie's statement is now on PE.com, also. Don't even want to comment. What a year for Andy.

[DaveSpadaro]

Tragic, unfortunate, awful. I think JL and AR spoke about it with their statements and I don't feel the need to add to those statements.

[f_dallas]

Unfortunately, I'd expect the league to keep an extremely close eye on the Eagles in the coming years.  When someone who is working for the strength and conditioning program has a 19 vials of steroids (4 different kinds), 47 syringes, and 64 needles at an NFL training camp...yeah...that doesn't look good.

[mjkvol]

Could we just please move on??? Please??

Sorry to be 'insensitive', but when is it that we finally start dealing with this organization's future?

[patpikunas]

mjkvol, on 18 December 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Could we just please move on??? Please??

Sorry to be 'insensitive', but when is it that we finally start dealing with this organization's future?

Very true.... this season cannot get over fast enough and the urgency to turn the page gets higher and higher.

We are talking about a major franchise in the sports entertainment business whose product has dropped about as low as it can possibly get and is now forced to deal with the embarassment of having its most powerful executive and face of the franchise for the last 14 years somehow having his son on staff at training camp with horribly addictive drugs and illegal performance enhancing steriods in his possession.

I too, hate to be "insensitive" and as I said in a post above this is an incredibly sad and incredibly tragic mess.

But, I'm sorry this whole scene stinks to high heaven.... The judgement this franchise has displayed is really hard to fathom.

[mjkvol]

Sad, yes.    Tragic?     I can't go there.

Tragic would mean it couldn't have been avoided.      This should never have been an issue here, but was allowed to be by the powers that be.

Again, sorry to be 'insensitive', but reality quite often sucks.

[CT Eagle]

mjkvol, on 18 December 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

Sad, yes. Tragic? I can't go there.

Tragic would mean it couldn't have been avoided.   This should never have been an issue here, but was allowed to be by the powers that be.

Again, sorry to be 'insensitive', but reality quite often sucks.

  This was "allowed to be by the powers that be" ?  I am not sure what you are hinting at nor do I care. What could possibly motivate you to write such a callous statement ? Wow...   You should also check a few more sources for the definition of "tragic" because you are wrong there too.  

   a : regrettably serious or unpleasant    (Websters)

• Causing or characterized by extreme distress or sorrow.

[mjkvol]

CT Eagle, on 18 December 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

  This was "allowed to be by the powers that be" ?  I am not sure what you are hinting at nor do I care. What could possibly motivate you to write such a callous statement ? Wow...   You should also check a few more sources for the definition of "tragic" because you are wrong there too.  

   a : regrettably serious or unpleasant    (Websters)

• Causing or characterized by extreme distress or sorrow.

A drama or literary work in which the main character is brought to ruin or suffers extreme sorrow, especially as a consequence of a tragic flaw, moral weakness, or inability to cope with unfavorable circumstances.


Yeah, absolutely callous, Mr. Moral.    I know the definition of the word, and don't need your sermon.

There are a lot of questions that could be asked as to why this guy was ever allowed to be in that position, given his history.      There are many more equally insensitive questions, as well.       When will we as a fan base ever be released from thinking only about this guy, and his future?

I envy fans of teams whose concern is about things like playoff games, or even the off season and possible changes to improve their team.

[CT Eagle]

mjkvol, on 18 December 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

A drama or literary work in which the main character is brought to ruin or suffers extreme sorrow, especially as a consequence of a tragic flaw, moral weakness, or inability to cope with unfavorable circumstances.


Yeah, absolutely callous, Mr. Moral. I know the definition of the word, and don't need your sermon.

You are using the definition of 'tragedy' that mainly pertains to a play or a book (although it still is a somewhat accurate description of what happened).  If you want to continue to say or think this wasn't a tragic event instead of just admitting you are wrong, it is your problem.  You made a callous statement and there is no other way to spin it.  I guess you need to look 'callous' up too.
It is easy to figure out why G Reid was in that position.  If you have or had an issue with it, it is probably time to let it go.  
When will the fan base be released from thinking only about Reid and his future ? Stupid question but... a lot of fans have already written Reid off and are looking towards the future.  You should try it.