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[Footballman175]

Cam Newton is playing the best football right now up there with the elite Quarterbacks. He currently has the 2nd best QB rating in the NFL in the past 5 games (RGIII 1st) and has taken down what many say is the "best team" in the NFL, the Atlanta Falcons easily.

This team looks dangerous for next year. Do you guys agree?

[HarborTheClay]

Meh, i'm still waiting to see a consistent running quarterback...perhaps RGIII is just that, but history is not on his side.

And this isn't a black thing....they just all happen to be black.

[RedskinsFan01]

But i thought Newton was a bust because teams "got tape on him" and the same thing will happen to RG3 next year.

[Pastor Troy]

HarborTheClay, on 19 December 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

Meh, i'm still waiting to see a consistent running quarterback...perhaps RGIII is just that, but history is not on his side.

And this isn't a black thing....they just all happen to be black.

Haha ....keep up the trend cam ...you make haters like this die inside hahaha ....i love it

RedskinsFan01, on 19 December 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

But i thought Newton was a bust because teams "got tape on him" and the same thing will happen to RG3 next year.

I know right lol.....these clowns make me laugh

[Froggy]

Easier to play when you know the season's done...I won't give him too much credit till he does it in meaningful games.

[ShakeThatMonkey]

Froggy, on 19 December 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

Easier to play when you know the season's done...I won't give him too much credit till he does it in meaningful games.

be quiet loser!

*quickly runs and hide knowing how pathetic the eagles are this year*

[Footballman175]

Froggy, on 19 December 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

Easier to play when you know the season's done...I won't give him too much credit till he does it in meaningful games.

He destroyed the team with the best record in the NFL 2 weeks ago. That's nonsense.

[JustAnotherEaglesFan]

RedskinsFan01, on 19 December 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

But i thought Newton was a bust because teams "got tape on him" and the same thing will happen to RG3 next year.

Uh they did get tape on him. And he couldn't adjust to their game plans till the end of the season. Same thing could happen to rg3/luck/wilson and so on. In case you forgot their record is still 5-9. Playing hot towards the end of the season when your team has nothing to lose isn't that special. Just ask the eagles.

[Froggy]

Footballman175, on 19 December 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

He destroyed the team with the best record in the NFL 2 weeks ago. That's nonsense.

OK then, Cam Newton is amazing and everybody who ever doubted him had no f'ing idea what they were talking about.

[BlackPooL]

Apparently, playing the Eagles cures whatever ails you. Unless you're Tampa, they actually got worse the next week.

[Happyfoosball]

No he's a self promoter.  He can't lead.  Is he incredibly talented?  Yes.  But a QB has to lead as well.

[Pastor Troy]

Froggy, on 19 December 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

Easier to play when you know the season's done...I won't give him too much credit till he does it in meaningful games.

How come mark sanchez is still playing horrible, what about phillip rivers, josh freeman, matthew stafford lol, jay cutler, fitzpatrick ..........hahahahahahah haters

[bumpy93]

Footballman175, on 19 December 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

Cam Newton is playing the best football right now up there with the elite Quarterbacks. He currently has the 2nd best QB rating in the NFL in the past 5 games (RGIII 1st) and has taken down what many say is the "best team" in the NFL, the Atlanta Falcons easily.

This team looks dangerous for next year. Do you guys agree?

The same thing happened at the end of the 2011 season for the Panthers. They won something like 5 of thier last 8 games to finish 6-10.

Newton has looked GREAT the past 5-6 games IMO though

[KzEaglefan86]

Pastor Troy, on 20 December 2012 - 10:41 AM, said:

How come mark sanchez is still playing horrible, what about phillip rivers, josh freeman, matthew stafford lol, jay cutler, fitzpatrick ..........hahahahahahah haters

I've never had anything against Cam Newton, but now I'd like to see him fail miserably just because you're so effing annoying.

[HarborTheClay]

This class of quarterback goes on hot streaks, gets hurt, play eventually becomes incredibly inconsistent when they are figured out. How many of these quarterbacks do people need to see to realize that?

If Panthers fans think they have anything in Cam or Redskins fans think they have anything in RGIII...keep dreaming and hold off on the super bowl hopes for a bit.

You'd think skins fans would know after seeing McNabb in this division for so long and seeing Vick put on one of the "single greatest games a quarterback has ever had" against their own team just a few years ago.

You win super bowls with the pocket passers and the mobile pocket passers that can step to the side of a rusher, step up in the pocket, or scramble a few steps outside the pocket while keeping their eyes downfield to make the pass. (See pretty much every freakin super bowl winning qb)

These are not opinions, they are freakin facts.

[Pastor Troy]

HarborTheClay, on 20 December 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

This class of quarterback goes on hot streaks, gets hurt, play eventually becomes incredibly inconsistent when they are figured out. How many of these quarterbacks do people need to see to realize that?

If Panthers fans think they have anything in Cam or Redskins fans think they have anything in RGIII...keep dreaming and hold off on the super bowl hopes for a bit.

You'd think skins fans would know after seeing McNabb in this division for so long and seeing Vick put on one of the "single greatest games a quarterback has ever had" against their own team just a few years ago.

You win super bowls with the pocket passers and the mobile pocket passers that can step to the side of a rusher, step up in the pocket, or scramble a few steps outside the pocket while keeping their eyes downfield to make the pass. (See pretty much every freakin super bowl winning qb)

These are not opinions, they are freakin facts.

[HarborTheClay]

Poor guy, you have no idea what the next 8-10 years is going to be like. I'm sorry.

[Thrive]

HarborTheClay, on 19 December 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

Meh, i'm still waiting to see a consistent running quarterback...perhaps RGIII is just that, but history is not on his side.

And this isn't a black thing....they just all happen to be black.

Tebow...different skin color...same result

[Thrive]

HarborTheClay, on 20 December 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

Poor guy, you have no idea what the next 8-10 years is going to be like. I'm sorry.

They'll find out the hard way. The problem is, RGIII is a freakin monster right now. Its hard for them to look further down the road. We did the same with McNabb. They are exciting players but their very strengths are what keeps them for winning super bowls.

[HarborTheClay]

Thrive, on 20 December 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Tebow...different skin color...same result

Tebow was the mini-version of this continued failed experiment. At least two teams have already realized his type won't win ish.

Thrive, on 20 December 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

They'll find out the hard way. The problem is, RGIII is a freakin monster right now. Its hard for them to look further down the road. We did the same with McNabb. They are exciting players but their very strengths are what keeps them for winning super bowls.

Exactly...exciting for awhile. Fun for awhile. But never ever fulfilling. Pastor Troy is riding the high, enjoy the quick thrill.

[Pastor Troy]

HarborTheClay, on 20 December 2012 - 12:39 PM, said:

Tebow was the mini-version of this continued failed experiment. At least two teams have already realized his type won't win ish.



Exactly...exciting for awhile. Fun for awhile. But never ever fulfilling. Pastor Troy is riding the high, enjoy the quick thrill.

But these guys are different from mcnabb and vick....stop trying to make them pocket passers......let them throw and run...that is what ruin mcnabb's career and what is nearly ruining vick's career.....look at what colin kaepernick did to the patriots....passing and running.....these are new breeds.....rg3 is a thrower of the ball first..then run 2nd....same with cam newton.....play to their strenghts....dont take it away to mold them into a pocket passer.......times are changing but u need to change too

[Bdawk330]

Pastor Troy, on 20 December 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

But these guys are different from mcnabb and vick....stop trying to make them pocket passers......let them throw and run...that is what ruin mcnabb's career and what is nearly ruining vick's career.....look at what colin kaepernick did to the patriots....passing and running.....these are new breeds.....rg3 is a thrower of the ball first..then run 2nd....same with cam newton.....play to their strenghts....dont take it away to mold them into a pocket passer.......times are changing but u need to change too

Shut up you racist d bag

[JustAnotherEaglesFan]

Pastor Troy, on 20 December 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

But these guys are different from mcnabb and vick....stop trying to make them pocket passers......let them throw and run...that is what ruin mcnabb's career and what is nearly ruining vick's career.....look at what colin kaepernick did to the patriots....passing and running.....these are new breeds.....rg3 is a thrower of the ball first..then run 2nd....same with cam newton.....play to their strenghts....dont take it away to mold them into a pocket passer.......times are changing but u need to change too

Yea yea yeah...that's what Vick was at 2010. VICK 2.0! The new era of qbs!!1 He can do it all! And then he fell flat on his face and started getting dragged across the turf. Why do you think that is?

Now rg3 is nothing like Vick because you've seem him fail but I guarantee you were all up his a** (like a lot of us were) after 2010. Except most of us learned from then and aren't going to be fooled again.

[Pastor Troy]

JustAnotherEaglesFan, on 20 December 2012 - 01:29 PM, said:

Yea yea yeah...that's what Vick was at 2010. VICK 2.0! The new era of qbs!!1 He can do it all! And then he fell flat on his face and started getting dragged across the turf. Why do you think that is?

Now rg3 is nothing like Vick because you've seem him fail but I guarantee you were all up his a** (like a lot of us were) after 2010. Except most of us learned from then and aren't going to be fooled again.

Compare a vick playing for a contract in 2010 to a rookie Qb hahaha......Rg3 is what vick should have been after being drafted number 1 overrall in 2001....but he never developed a passing consistency even tho he has canon for an arm....if dan reeves had stayed on as coach...vick would be different in atlanta.

Rg3, kaepernick, russell wilson, cam newton are new breeds of dual threats Qb because they can throw and can run...... Reid ruin mcnabb by taking one of his weapons away making him pass all the time.....same he did with vick....when vick is getting concussion while in the pocket says alot.

[HarborTheClay]

Pastor Troy, on 20 December 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

Compare a vick playing for a contract in 2010 to a rookie Qb hahaha......Rg3 is what vick should have been after being drafted number 1 overrall in 2001....but he never developed a passing consistency even tho he has canon for an arm....if dan reeves had stayed on as coach...vick would be different in atlanta.

Rg3, kaepernick, russell wilson, cam newton are new breeds of dual threats Qb because they can throw and can run...... Reid ruin mcnabb by taking one of his weapons away making him pass all the time.....same he did with vick....when vick is getting concussion while in the pocket says alot.

You think McNabb and Vick wanted to become restricted in what they do? Do you really think Reid wanted them to as well? If Reid had a qb that could run through defenses and pass through defenses and stay healthy through the season and playoffs, you don't think he would have went with that??? Are you this dense? It just doesn't work...there's enough of a history to prove it.

McNabb had all the freedom to run early in his career and he did it. So did Vick and nown so does RGIII. RGIII, like Vick, like McNabb will rarely compete in 16 games in one season. They get hurt because they know they can run and believe that they can extend a play to dangerous bounds. Eventually, they get hurt. RGIII has ALREADY experienced this and could have easily been out for the year if one ligament bends wrong in his latest scare.

What you're seeing is just another version of the same player. RGIII a little more advanced in his rookie season? Sure. No doubt. Will it keep him healthy? Most likely, not.

[cmart102]

Pastor Troy, on 20 December 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

Rg3, kaepernick, russell wilson, cam newton are new breeds of dual threats Qb because they can throw and can run...... Reid ruin mcnabb by taking one of his weapons away making him pass all the time.....same he did with vick....when vick is getting concussion while in the pocket says alot.

I'll take it you've never seen Wilson play. He's more similar to Aaron Rodgers style wise than he is to any of those QBs you just mentioned.

[Pastor Troy]

HarborTheClay, on 20 December 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

You think McNabb and Vick wanted to become restricted in what they do? Do you really think Reid wanted them to as well? If Reid had a qb that could run through defenses and pass through defenses and stay healthy through the season and playoffs, you don't think he would have went with that??? Are you this dense? It just doesn't work...there's enough of a history to prove it.

McNabb had all the freedom to run early in his career and he did it. So did Vick and nown so does RGIII. RGIII, like Vick, like McNabb will rarely compete in 16 games in one season. They get hurt because they know they can run and believe that they can extend a play to dangerous bounds. Eventually, they get hurt. RGIII has ALREADY experienced this and could have easily been out for the year if one ligament bends wrong in his latest scare.

What you're seeing is just another version of the same player. RGIII a little more advanced in his rookie season? Sure. No doubt. Will it keep him healthy? Most likely, not.

You keep bringing up mcnabb's career to compare to rg3.....they are different people, different era...you can't even  compare rg3's rookie season to mcnabb's......different era dude....get that out of head and stop being so simple minded

[JustAnotherEaglesFan]

Pastor Troy, on 20 December 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

Compare a vick playing for a contract in 2010 to a rookie Qb hahaha......Rg3 is what vick should have been after being drafted number 1 overrall in 2001....but he never developed a passing consistency even tho he has canon for an arm....if dan reeves had stayed on as coach...vick would be different in atlanta.

Rg3, kaepernick, russell wilson, cam newton are new breeds of dual threats Qb because they can throw and can run...... Reid ruin mcnabb by taking one of his weapons away making him pass all the time.....same he did with vick....when vick is getting concussion while in the pocket says alot.

I like how you blame everyone else instead of the one who actually is on the field making the plays. Its everyone elses fault that Vick can't read a defense and holds on to the ball for 10mins because he thinks he can evade everyone. You can be a dual threat. That's fine. But in the end it doesn't matter how much of a threat you are if you're on the sideline injured. You need to be a much better pocket passer than runner or your career wont last long.

Btw id take russel wilson over any of the rookies you mentioned. He's much more of a complete qb.

[HarborTheClay]

Pastor Troy, on 20 December 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

You keep bringing up mcnabb's career to compare to rg3.....they are different people, different era...you can't even  compare rg3's rookie season to mcnabb's......different era dude....get that out of head and stop being so simple minded

Different era, same style of player. Quaterbacks that run have severe injury histories and hardly ever finish a complete season. RGIII has already missed time in his rookie season. He's already 0-1 in playing the full season. Different era, same result. Nothing simple minded except for how to come to this conclusion. Enjoy the empty wins, they will never turn into the big one unless your backup QB can take over in the playoffs and win the big one.

It's happened to Cunningham, McNabb, Vick (3 eras, why would this era be different?)...RGIII is the next model. Different exterior/interior. Same recall problems.

[Pastor Troy]

HarborTheClay, on 20 December 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

Different era, same style of player. Quaterbacks that run have severe injury histories and hardly ever finish a complete season. RGIII has already missed time in his rookie season. He's already 0-1 in playing the full season. Different era, same result. Nothing simple minded except for how to come to this conclusion. Enjoy the empty wins, they will never turn into the big one unless your backup QB can take over in the playoffs and win the big one.

It's happened to Cunningham, McNabb, Vick (3 eras, why would this era be different?)...RGIII is the next model. Different exterior/interior. Same recall problems.

What about matthew stafford, jay cutler, big ben....qbs that have been injured alot while in the pocket? You seem not to realize that.........cam newton play the same style as rg3 but he has never been injured...how come you don't bring that up? Enough with your stereotype dude....any qbs can be injured anytime anywhere.....just last year matt schaub was injured in a game that basically ended houston's  year. Stop being simple minded...stop looking into a narrow lense .....what happened to RG3 was a freak accident that can happen to any qb....he is a rookie and he will learn to run out of bounds and slide