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[Fansincebirth]

HC - Mike Zimmer or Chip Kelly
OC - Ken Wisenhut or Norv Turner
DC - Rex Ryan or Ron Rivera

Those are the six guys that i wouldnt mind in the eagles organization next year in those capacities.
Which combo would have the most NFL success in philly?

[PickFoles]

0 of them.

[RedZoneD25]

Mike Zimmer
Norv Turner
Rex Ryan

That said, I'd prefer Kelly.

[BDAWK_4EVER]

Zimmer, Turner, Rivera out of the options presented.

[Fansincebirth]

PickFoles, on 20 December 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

0 of them.

really? I bet you have as HC Marty M. dont you?

RedZoneD25, on 20 December 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

Mike Zimmer
Norv Turner
Rex Ryan

That said, I'd prefer Kelly.

Why?

[RedZoneD25]

Fansincebirth, on 20 December 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:

really? I bet you have as HC Marty M. dont you?



Why?

To which, me preferring Kelly?

I don't think Zimmer will leave any time soon, just because of how he was there when he lost his wife, and that (as it should) probably keeps his heart in Cinci. If he feels like getting a fresh start, I'd take him.

[FanSinceWayBack]

PickFoles, on 20 December 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

0 of them.

You shoot down 6 possibilities, give none of your own, and give no explanation as to why...

The phaggotry is strong within

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I like Zimmer, but I dont think he leaves Cincy.
Id like Rex Ryan if he wasnt such circus.
Not fond of N.Turner, but its better than what we have now.

[bringithome6]

I dont know about mike zimmer reminds me of pat shurmur...they know their football but kind of flat in personality.

[RealityCheque]

Regardless of how unfeasible it may or may not be, here's who I'd want as the main 3...

HC: Greg Roman
DC: Mike Singletary
OC: Duce Staley

Of course, the first two are definite possibilities but not so much Duce, as whoever becomes the new HC will bring in their own staff, but honestly I don't want Norv Turner anywhere near this team and out of all of our position coaches, the only two I could see the new regime keeping on board would be Duce and Pederson...all of the others are mediocre at best and will more than likely be replaced...plus Duce knows the importance of running the rock, why not give him a shot? Can't be anywhere near as terrible as Moronweg anyways...

[The_Talon]

RealityCheque, on 20 December 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

Regardless of how unfeasible it may or may not be, here's who I'd want as the main 3...

HC: Greg Roman
DC: Mike Singletary
OC: Duce Staley

Of course, the first two are definite possibilities but not so much Duce, as whoever becomes the new HC will bring in their own staff, but honestly I don't want Norv Turner anywhere near this team and out of all of our position coaches, the only two I could see the new regime keeping on board would be Duce and Pederson...all of the others are mediocre at best and will more than likely be replaced...plus Duce knows the importance of running the rock, why not give him a shot? Can't be anywhere near as terrible as Moronweg anyways...

how could you not like Norv Turner? As an offensive coordinator he's had nothing but success everywhere he's been. It's his positions as Head Coach that he's been unsuccessful.

[PickFoles]

Fansincebirth, on 20 December 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:

really? I bet you have as HC Marty M. dont you?

You listed Norv Turner as a good coach for OC but hate Marty Mornhinweg? Have you ever watched the Chargers offense? They have the same play-calling as Mornhinweg but with worse players.

FanSinceWayBack, on 20 December 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

You shoot down 6 possibilities, give none of your own, and give no explanation as to why...

Chip Kelly will probably suck in the NFL. I don't know enough about Zimmer.
Norv Turner is identical to Reid/Mornhinweg, and Whisenhunt isn't that great.
Rex Ryan shouldn't be allowed anywhere near an NFL coaching job, and Ron Rivera is terrible.

I don't know who is going to/should take over the coaching jobs that open up after this season, but historically & statistically speaking, it is extremely likely they will do a ****ty job.

[RealityCheque]

The_Talon, on 20 December 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

how could you not like Norv Turner? As an offensive coordinator he's had nothing but success everywhere he's been. It's his positions as Head Coach that he's been unsuccessful.

While true, I still think we'd be better served with someone looking to carve their own niche in the football world...Norv has been a great OC in the past, but he has had a tendency somewhat to pass a lot in some games calling the offensive plays, and I think we're all pretty tired of that movie, we know how it ends! I just think that promoting a position coach or getting an up and coming OC rather than a former HC to be OC would be better because an up and coming guy would be a little more determined to do well, as once you make it to coordinator status it opens up potential future HC jobs down the line, and that's what every position coach and coordinator strives to be...I'm not so sure Norv could match that determination factor to want to prove himself to succeed, as he's already been a HC and there's quite a few teams reportedly already inquiring about his services, I've heard KC (Pioli and Crennel are gone and have been told as much) and Arizona, but the rumors are also rampant right now as well so....

[AceofSpades]

Fansincebirth, on 20 December 2012 - 01:53 PM, said:

HC - Mike Zimmer or Chip Kelly
OC - Ken Wisenhut or Norv Turner
DC - Rex Ryan or Ron Rivera

Those are the six guys that i wouldnt mind in the eagles organization next year in those capacities.
Which combo would have the most NFL success in philly?

I want nothing to do with Ken Whisenhunt. He's proven that he can't develop a QB and has the worst QB situation in the NFL. As I think about it, I don't believe Rex Ryan will be fired. I think he can sell ownership on giving him another year with a different QB.

My choices for the coaching staff:

HC: Gus Bradley, Winston Moss, Vic Fangio
OC: Pat Shurmur, Aaron Kromer, Joe Lombardi
DC: Ron Rivera, Raheem Morris
ST: Larry Izzo

The main reason I like Shumur as the OC is the fact that Sam Bradford had his best pro season with Shurmur as his OC. I'd like to see Duce Staley retained for the coaching staff as possibly the RBs coach or some type of offensive assistant. I'd also like to see Mike Munchak brought in to be the offensive line coach once he's fired.

[RealityCheque]

I also don't want Whisenhunt here either...any coach that doesn't cut it in Arizona is probably a death wish waiting to happen by coming to Philly lmao

[Robbieb77]

PickFoles, on 20 December 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

0 of them.

GTFO your little slideshow is supporting the cowgirls

HC: Chip
OC: Not a fan of either but Ken I guess
DC: Ron, but i'd be willing to bring in Rex but that could be a disaster.

[flyerdog]

I don't care who the guy is as long as he has a plan (like Reid did) BUT..................he HAS to be able to adjust that plan and not be pig-headed enough to think he has all the answers...hell, even Bill Bellichick to this day seeks advice from others to assist him in his coaching endeavors...BIll doesn't proclaim to "know it all" and that is the sign of a great leader..because there is always something to learn no matter how experienced you are. And the difference between Reid and Bellichick is that Bill  learns from his mistakes.

having said that I look more for the qualities of the coach , not the "name"

1. A guy with a plan
2. A guy who is flexible
3. A guy who chooses players and plays to their strengths
4. A guy who values the running game
5. A guy who doesn't over-rely on gimmicks and flash
6. A guy who likes Linebackers
7. A. guy who actually "does a better job...", not just talk about it

[L.E.]

PickFoles, on 20 December 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

You listed Norv Turner as a good coach for OC but hate Marty Mornhinweg? Have you ever watched the Chargers offense? They have the same play-calling as Mornhinweg but with worse players.



Chip Kelly will probably suck in the NFL. I don't know enough about Zimmer.
Norv Turner is identical to Reid/Mornhinweg, and Whisenhunt isn't that great.
Rex Ryan shouldn't be allowed anywhere near an NFL coaching job, and Ron Rivera is terrible.

I don't know who is going to/should take over the coaching jobs that open up after this season, but historically & statistically speaking, it is extremely likely they will do a ****ty job.

See, this is why people call you an idiot all the time. You say the man wouldn't make a good HC, then say you don't even know enough about him. Just stop posting, you're embarrassing yourself.

[BirdGang45]

Vic Fangio thats all I want. He can bring whoever he wants.

[FanSinceWayBack]

BirdGang45, on 20 December 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:

Vic Fangio thats all I want. He can bring whoever he wants.

Doesnt he operate a 3-4 defense, so are you saying you want a 3-4 instilled here? Or you saying he'll be fine in a 4-3 scheme?
I think I read that he transformed Stanford into a 3-4 Defense.

Also, I dont have a link, but Im pretty sure its been said Lurie is going to go after an offensive mind for the next HC.

[AceofSpades]

flyerdog, on 20 December 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

I don't care who the guy is as long as he has a plan (like Reid did) BUT..................he HAS to be able to adjust that plan and not be pig-headed enough to think he has all the answers...hell, even Bill Bellichick to this day seeks advice from others to assist him in his coaching endeavors...BIll doesn't proclaim to "know it all" and that is the sign of a great leader..because there is always something to learn no matter how experienced you are. And the difference between Reid and Bellichick is that Bill  learns from his mistakes.

having said that I look more for the qualities of the coach , not the "name"

1. A guy with a plan
2. A guy who is flexible
3. A guy who chooses players and plays to their strengths
4. A guy who values the running game
5. A guy who doesn't over-rely on gimmicks and flash
6. A guy who likes Linebackers
7. A. guy who actually "does a better job...", not just talk about it

Very very well said.

[700level4life]

The_Talon, on 20 December 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

how could you not like Norv Turner? As an offensive coordinator he's had nothing but success everywhere he's been. It's his positions as Head Coach that he's been unsuccessful.

The fact that Norv Turner has been a head coach for this long with that w-l record is mind boggling. Jeff Fisher, Cowher, Reid, and Marty Schoteinhiemer(sp?) I can understand. One Superbowl win total combined, but a decent record.compared to Norv's sub 500 record.

[BirdGang45]

FanSinceWayBack, on 20 December 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

Doesnt he operate a 3-4 defense, so are you saying you want a 3-4 instilled here? Or you saying he'll be fine in a 4-3 scheme?
I think I read that he transformed Stanford into a 3-4 Defense.

Also, I dont have a link, but Im pretty sure its been said Lurie is going to go after an offensive mind for the next HC.

Yea, he does run a 3-4. If Lurie wants a offensive minded coach thats fine, but I would want Vic. I want a nasty defense that will get after it. Vic can bring in a Norv Turner for his OC.

[CaliEagle]

I don't really want any of the coaches listed above. I would probably be okay with Norv as an OC, but none of those HC choices would be on my list for the Eagles.

[FanSinceWayBack]

BirdGang45, on 20 December 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

Yea, he does run a 3-4. If Lurie wants a offensive minded coach thats fine, but I would want Vic. I want a nasty defense that will get after it.

I totally agree about a nasty defense.
We need some players that will knock your deek in the dirt!
We've gone soft

" He holds up the 'D' and I hold up the 'fence'...  Chain 'Linc' .. none of that white picket ish, we aint ****ots!"

[Runtherock]

Kelly would be his own OC or he would bring in a young protégé you have never heard of.

[BirdGang45]

Runtherock, on 20 December 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

Kelly would be his own OC or he would bring in a young protégé you have never heard of.

He would have a OC, he had a OC at Oregon.

[AceofSpades]

Runtherock, on 20 December 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

Kelly would be his own OC or he would bring in a young protégé you have never heard of.

BirdGang45, on 20 December 2012 - 10:52 PM, said:

He would have a OC, he had a OC at Oregon.

Whoever Chip Kelly would bring in would be the OC in name/title only but it would be Kelly's offense. Hmmm where have we seen this before?

[eagledrew13]

I'll take norv at OC but the rest? No thanks.

I like ray horton as HC