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Calvin Johnson

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Congrats to him, but I gotta say, I'm not jaw droppingly impressed by this one. If Peterson doesn't play another down this season I'd still be more impressed by him than Calvin. Reason is, Stafford has 685 pass attempts this season with a game to spare, he's 6 attempts away from shattering the single season record. My second reason is that Johnson has been targeted 190 times this season with a game to spare, that too, is a ridiculous record.

Basically all the Lions have done this season is trail, play from behind, and throw the ball to Calvin at record setting volume. It just ceases to impress when you look at the numbers aspect of it. I'll admit I am a tad bitter, would have been nice for the GOAT to hold on to that record.

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Jerry Rice's records are so ridiculous that anytime one of them falls it's a big deal regardless of the circumstances. On the other hand I will make this comment. CJ is having a record breaking season, but Detroit is a terrible team so what does the accomplishment really mean?

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Jerry Rice's records are so ridiculous that anytime one of them falls it's a big deal regardless of the circumstances. On the other hand I will make this comment. CJ is having a record breaking season, but Detroit is a terrible team so what does the accomplishment really mean?

It means nothing really, and it's sad to see how elated their fans were last night.

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Meaningless record since they Lions suck.

The Lions should make a Mega-Trade this offseason. Maybe they can pull off a Herschel Walker type deal.

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What's really sad is the attempts to diminish the achievement.

We're diminishing the achievement because the Lions suck...you don't see anyone doing the same for Peterson.

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The Lions suck less than any team the EMB could field. So congrats to Calvin.

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Both sad and funny how Fitz could have a shot at the record but has no QB to throw to him

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It doesn't matter if the Lions suck or not. The complete ineptitude of thier defense and special teams should in no way tarnish a historic season from the best WR in the league. He broke the single season receiving yards record, a record previously held by perhaps the greatest player to ever step on a football field, and he did it in 15 games. He is also very likely to break the 2000 yard mark.

And yes, Calvin has been targeted a Hell of a lot, because he is the best WR in the league and you'd be stupid not to. He also faces double coverage on basically every play. Every defense gameplans specifically to stop Calvin Johnson and they still can't do it. Furthermore, many of those targets were just prayer passes that had no chance to be caught, yet still count as targets.

As football fans, we have been blessed this season with the performances of Clavin Johnson and Adrian Peterson. We should enjoy them instead of finding ways to lessen the performances based on things that are beyond the control of the player.

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What's really sad is the attempts to diminish the achievement.

How can you diminish something that is meaningless? What does that record do for the 2012 Detroit Lions? How many games does that record win for them?

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How can you diminish something that is meaningless? What does that record do for the 2012 Detroit Lions? How many games does that record win for them?

Uhmm there's a pretty big difference between a team record, and a player record. How is it CJ's fault the rest of the lions suck? He is playing the best football in the NFL out there every game, and thats all you can ask for from a single player especially when you're team is sucking. He has broken the record and it's a huge accomplishment. If it's due to the lions sucking, then why aren't any of our players, or the chiefs, or raiders breaking any records this season? You can't take anything away from the man, if we had more players like him that give all their effort regardless of record, maybe we wouldn't be drafting in the top 5...

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Uhmm there's a pretty big difference between a team record, and a player record.

The NFL is a team sport. Individual records that don't help the TEAM win are meaningless.

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How can you diminish something that is meaningless? What does that record do for the 2012 Detroit Lions? How many games does that record win for them?

Do you count "meaningless" stats in career totals?

Someone should tell Butkus, Sayers, OJ and the like that much of their careers were "meaningless" because they didn't do enough to translate into team/playoff wins.

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Do you count "meaningless" stats in career totals?

Someone should tell Butkus, Sayers, OJ and the like that much of their careers were "meaningless" because they didn't do enough to translate into team/playoff wins.

Let me ask again, how many victories did his record secure for the Lions? Does that record get them a Lombardi trophy?

Breaking that record in the modern NFL means very little. A rookie QB just broke the rookie passing record with more than 4000 yards, with one game left to go... the modern NFL is juiced for the passing game.

It's like having a team down by 42 points, getting a big sack and the sacker goes wild... "I GOT A SACK!!! I GOT A SACK!!!" Yeah, well you're losing by 42 points that sack is meaningless.

Think Johnson would give that record up if it meant the Lions would make it into the playoffs with a chance at the Super Bowl?

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Right, in this modern passing game, only one guy has eclipsed 1600 yards in the last nine years. And he's done in consecutive seasons. Going against some of the most diverse, exotic coverages in the league.

Of course he'd give up the record for a playoff berth. But in the NFL, the mantra is to just do your job. It isn't in your control if the rest of the team lacks talent or if guys fail to do their job.

Would you knock AD's season if the Vikes miss the playoffs? It isn't his fault Ponder sucks donkey balls and I'm sure he give up yardage for a competent passing game.

It wouldn't and shouldn't be any less impressive of a season.

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The NFL is a team sport. Individual records that don't help the TEAM win are meaningless.

Technically they do help. The times they don't are usually when someone else on the team screws up the big play. An example would be the many times Calvin caught the ball to gain big yards only to have it come back because of a penalty by his team.

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Technically they do help. The times they don't are usually when someone else on the team screws up the big play. An example would be the many times Calvin caught the ball to gain big yards only to have it come back because of a penalty by his team.

So the Lions are in the playoffs due to his individual record? Wow, I hadn't heard that. Awesome!

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The NFL is a team sport. Individual records that don't help the TEAM win are meaningless.

Okay just take one sentence out of my whole response. Once again Calvin obviously gave his all every game this season, proven by breaking the record, and that's all you can ask of a player. And that DOES HELP THE TEAM WIN, how does the rest of his team's failures take away from what he did? How many of our players did that this year? They all gave up even prior to mid season.

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Okay just take one sentence out of my whole response.

I responded to the part I wanted to respond to. As that is all I was responding to, the rest of the post wasn't needed in the quote box. It's not like I completely deleted what you said so that others can't see it. It's still in your post.

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No one took anything away from Barry when he put up his numbers while being on some crappy teams so why do it to Calvin? He has a chance and a very good one at that to break 2000 Yards receiving. That in itself is pretty amazing.

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I responded to the part I wanted to respond to. As that is all I was responding to, the rest of the post wasn't needed in the quote box. It's not like I completely deleted what you said so that others can't see it. It's still in your post.

Once again you haven't responded to the points I made.

FYI the reason i said that is because the rest of my post explains the reasoning behind that statement. But you just choose to look at one part and ignore the rest because lets face it reason doesn't exist in this forum.

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Don't even bother trying to engage VaBeach in any kind of debate. He is either severely mentally challenged or the most consistent troll on the EMB since I signed up in 2001.

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