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[dilluminati]

I'm liking what I see in the kid.  If we were not depleted at the O line I think we could compete with this guy, Tampa and Today sold me.
I have that and the draft next season to look forward to

[Philly30]

its an offense of almost all 2nd stringers, smart people should be concerned about the defense not the offense, i think they will be fine

[e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!]

Philly30, on 23 December 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

its an offense of almost all 2nd stringers, smart people should be concerned about the defense not the offense, i think they will be fine

100 percent agree. the defense is miserable with almost the entire team healthy. our safeties are atrocious. corners are mediocre, the defensive line looks ok since the firing of washburn but the linebackers besides kendrick and demeco suck

[Philly30]

yea the secondary is going to be the downfall of the team, the Dline looks promising though, linebackers not great but probably good enough, oline health plus secondary improvement are the big things next year

[e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!]

Philly30, on 23 December 2012 - 05:13 PM, said:

yea the secondary is going to be the downfall of the team, the Dline looks promising though, linebackers not great but probably good enough, oline health plus secondary improvement are the big things next year

i think jarius byrd is a free agent. he is a really good safety. i have a feeling he gets franchised though.

[dilluminati]

Give Foles anything resembling a pocket and he will be fine, ignite a running game.
The defense today didn't cough the game.. it was Foles running for his life that did.

The kid is young and played well and has/will improve, and yeah we can definetly upgrade our defense, but we need to cement the O line
We need to ditch the wide 9 and improve corners

It was the turnovers this season, the lack of them by our defense and the number committed on offense
We have set a record and cannot be worse next season~~
And one area that there should be no excuse for, the special teams.. F Bobby April and the games he cost the fans.
There hasn't been anything.. nada.. nothing to show from that 1/3 of the game

[e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!]

dilluminati, on 23 December 2012 - 05:20 PM, said:

Give Foles anything resembling a pocket and he will be fine, ignite a running game.
The defense today didn't cough the game.. it was Foles running for his life that did.

The kid is young and played well and has/will improve, and yeah we can definetly upgrade our defense, but we need to cement the O line
We need to ditch the wide 9 and improve corners

It was the turnovers this season, the lack of them by our defense and the number committed on offense
We have set a record and cannot be worse next season~~
And one area that there should be no excuse for, the special teams.. F Bobby April and the games he cost the fans.
There hasn't been anything.. nada.. nothing to show from that 1/3 of the game

same story for about the third year in a row

[dilluminati]

e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!, on 23 December 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

same story for about the third year in a row

I see a HUGE part of the team's problems being the coaching and motivation, there is simply no excuse for the special teams and the fumbles.
I can rationalize 4 starters out on the line, the issues we had with center, tight ends being out.. yeah tough to win a game without an O line
But no damn excuse for the special teams and really though I haven't been vocal Brown needs to be coached to hold the ball, next season that guy goes into fumble factory mode and the fans are going to be PISSED, this season doesn't matter, but coaching needs to address that...

I'm seeing progress with Foles but Brown needs work

[e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!]

dilluminati, on 23 December 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

I see a HUGE part of the team's problems being the coaching and motivation, there is simply no excuse for the special teams and the fumbles.
I can rationalize 4 starters out on the line, the issues we had with center, tight ends being out.. yeah tough to win a game without an O line
But no damn excuse for the special teams and really though I haven't been vocal Brown needs to be coached to hold the ball, next season that guy goes into fumble factory mode and the fans are going to be PISSED, this season doesn't matter, but coaching needs to address that...

I'm seeing progress with Foles but Brown needs work

i agree. brown is more of a luxury since we have mccoy. we really need foles to pan out to be good. cause in this division with eli, romo and griffin we could be in the cellar for a while unless he turns out to be good.

[eephraim]

I was originally skeptical..but I've been convinced. He's a franchise guy in the making. He has all the tools (except an elite deep ball).

[Unknownbird]

Hell, vick could do better with a better line, that man got killed all season and got dogged out but foles is getting praised and getting excused? WTF?

[CaliEagle]

Unknownbird, on 23 December 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Hell, vick could do better with a better line, that man got killed all season and got dogged out but foles is getting praised and getting excused? WTF?

In 2 weeks you can go root for a new team when Vick is cut. They are aren't going to give him a pay raise to stay here.

[Cappeeler]

That can be worked on. I'm sure it will.

[EagleArcher20]

I definitely feel Foles allows us to select BPA in the upcoming draft. Whomever the HC is doesn't HAVE to draft a QB.

If we resign DRC, and restructure Aso then we can either draft a Tackle or trade back and grab the best safety. If either one of the corners leave (hopefully not both) we can go Tackle, corner or trade back and go corner or safety. It sounds like there is a few tackles worthy of a 1st round grade as well as 2-3 corners and 1 safety.

Best case scenario in my mind:

Keep DRC and Aso
Sign a top safety
Draft Tackle with first pick
Trade back up to snag best safety
Spend rest of draft picking up OL, secondary and ST depth.

[Unknownbird]

Cappeeler, on 23 December 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

That can be worked on. I'm sure it will.

i'm sure it will to, Vick is gonna take a, pay cut, pending on who the next coach is thats coming in, all the vick haters are so sure that vick is gone, they are about to get a rude reality check!! Especially if chip comes here, he already let it be known that he likes vick.

[greenpassion]

unless the next coach believes foles can lead us to the playoffs next year than foles should stay on the bench. im not sitting around for 2-3 years losing. screw that.

[vic92353]

dilluminati, on 23 December 2012 - 05:20 PM, said:

Give Foles anything resembling a pocket and he will be fine, ignite a running game.
The defense today didn't cough the game.. it was Foles running for his life that did.

The kid is young and played well and has/will improve, and yeah we can definetly upgrade our defense, but we need to cement the O line
We need to ditch the wide 9 and improve corners

It was the turnovers this season, the lack of them by our defense and the number committed on offense
We have set a record and cannot be worse next season~~
And one area that there should be no excuse for, the special teams.. F Bobby April and the games he cost the fans.
There hasn't been anything.. nada.. nothing to show from that 1/3 of the game

It's strange, that all of  SUDDEN YOU SEE THAT.  Wow.   it's funny that it has taken the Starting of Foles to see that.  Are wide receivers running open all damn day,  does Foles Hold the ball too long,  is he not reading defenses and getting the ball out quicker because of it.  Wow, this is amazing.  What could be the real problem now?  You even mentioned defense and specials teams as an issue.   I thought starting Foles would fix all of this.  

[DebtFreeExpress.com]

NO NFL QB would be much better than Foles with this line.  With all the starters back on the line... the play action works, the RB's we have are much better and the QB both has time to throw and the throwing lanes open.

I look forward to seeing Foles fight for the starting job next year.

[eagles234]

I think the offense will be competitive when healthy and maybe a bit of change on the line. The defense on the other hand...

[Philly30]

DebtFreeExpress.com, on 23 December 2012 - 09:37 PM, said:

NO NFL QB would be much better than Foles with this line.  With all the starters back on the line... the play action works, the RB's we have are much better and the QB both has time to throw and the throwing lanes open.

I look forward to seeing Foles fight for the starting job next year.

foles is the starter next year, there is no one to fight with, unless they sign flacco which is not happening

[bringithome6]

I like him. At this point in the season with the injuries and stupid play calling all you can ask from him is week to week improvement which I think he's shown.

[T. McGee]

Foles should be able to help us where we have sucked for 10 years now. Red zone Offense. I like Vick but Vick doesn't work with midget WR's and unimaginative play calling. It kills us in the Red Zone. Vicks height limits the play calling in the red zone and MM is already limited mentally. With Foles being 6-6 and poised in the pocket (you can't deny he moves like Brady in the pocket), the red zone O has a better chance of gettting more TD's and less TO's.

[e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!]

eephraim, on 23 December 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

I was originally skeptical..but I've been convinced. He's a franchise guy in the making. He has all the tools (except an elite deep ball).

he has the arm for the deep ball he needs to work on his mechanics. coming out scouts said he had the arm strength. wasnt a cannon like favre but it is was very good. he needs to work on his feetwork. the reason why he throws ducks sometimes is because he doesn't drive and tries throwing it flat footed. it is correctable. if he does that this offseason we could see hims trive next year behind a good oline with peters, kelce and herremans coming back plus i think we might go after the Tackle from Texas AM who is pretty good.

greenpassion, on 23 December 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

unless the next coach believes foles can lead us to the playoffs next year than foles should stay on the bench. im not sitting around for 2-3 years losing. screw that.

just saying the odds say thats going to happen either way. i dont see geno smith being rg3 next year moreover, foles gives us our best shot next year.

[William Rudy]

Unknownbird, on 23 December 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Hell, vick could do better with a better line, that man got killed all season and got dogged out but foles is getting praised and getting excused? WTF?

Vick is a 10 year veteran with no upside.  He is not the future.  I believe that Foles will have a nice future with the Eagles.  He very well could be a franchise-type qb.  I believe that he will continue to improve with experience and an improved o-line in front of him.

[William Rudy]

greenpassion, on 23 December 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

unless the next coach believes foles can lead us to the playoffs next year than foles should stay on the bench. im not sitting around for 2-3 years losing. screw that.

I agree.  We've already done that the past 3 years with Vick.  By the way, where do you intend to go.  Will you be leaving the same day that Vick does?

[e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!]

William Rudy, on 24 December 2012 - 01:43 AM, said:

I agree.  We've already done that the past 3 years with Vick.  By the way, where do you intend to go.  Will you be leaving the same day that Vick does?

he is planning to jump back on the bandwagon when we become good again. as painful as it is to watch the eagles, i still do it even though i know it will ruin my sunday

[William Rudy]

vic92353, on 23 December 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

It's strange, that all of  SUDDEN YOU SEE THAT.  Wow.   it's funny that it has taken the Starting of Foles to see that.  Are wide receivers running open all damn day,  does Foles Hold the ball too long,  is he not reading defenses and getting the ball out quicker because of it.  Wow, this is amazing.  What could be the real problem now?  You even mentioned defense and specials teams as an issue.   I thought starting Foles would fix all of this.  

Even though he is running for his life, Foles is still putting up better numbers than Vick behind that crappy line.  Vick stinks.  Get over it.

[William Rudy]

e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!, on 24 December 2012 - 01:46 AM, said:

he is planning to jump back on the bandwagon when we become good again. as painful as it is to watch the eagles, i still do it even though i know it will ruin my sunday

I've been an Eagles fan for over 50 years.  I'll never stop watching or rooting for them.  I've seen a lot of bad times with this franchise.  Those bad times have not stopped me from being a fan.

[Whiskey]

I honestly didn't think Foles would be worth a damn, but the way he has played this season has definitely changed my mind. The fact that as a rookie he has played better than Vick behind that offensive line is promising. I just figured that if Vick was getting pummeled that bad behind the patchwork line, Foles had no chance.

I like Vick, a lot, but he has not been the player we saw two seasons ago. I just don't see the front office paying Vick next year, especially with the way Foles has played.

[Connecticut Eagle]

William Rudy, on 24 December 2012 - 01:48 AM, said:

I've been an Eagles fan for over 50 years.  I'll never stop watching or rooting for them.  I've seen a lot of bad times with this franchise.  Those bad times have not stopped me from being a fan.

Agreed.  And for those who think this is a bad time, sorry, you need to look at the Eagles of the late '60s / early 70's.