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#31 Highboy

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 08:46 AM

View Postmjkvol, on 30 December 2012 - 06:58 PM, said:

Fine.

The fact that we're even discussing this for real is enough for me. :towel:

No, not good enough. You have to say "I'm wrong". Do it. Now.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:49 AM

I'm wrong?   Why?    Because you say so?   :rolleyes:

Arians is about to win Coach of the Year, and clearly did a pretty damn amazing job in Indy with a group that had zero business going 11-5.    No offense, HB, but that weighs just a bit more than your opinion.    I'd still like to see him be among those interviewed, along with O'Brien, if he's available.

Wrong? Hardly. There is no wrong or right at this point. I don't want Kelly, but I'm not in a position to say it couldn't work, I'd just prefer to stay away from someone with no NFL experience.

Yesterday was just not a day to argue - it was a day for celebration.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:53 AM

View Postmjkvol, on 01 January 2013 - 09:49 AM, said:

I'm wrong?   Why?    Because you say so?   :rolleyes:

Arians is about to win Coach of the Year, and clearly did a pretty damn amazing job in Indy with a group that had zero business going 11-5.    No offense, HB, but that weighs just a bit more than your opinion.    I'd still like to see him be among those interviewed, along with O'Brien, if he's available.

Wrong? Hardly. There is no wrong or right at this point. I don't want Kelly, but I'm not in a position to say it couldn't work, I'd just prefer to stay away from someone with no NFL experience.

Yesterday was just not a day to argue - it was a day for celebration.

Holy **** mj it was a joke. Sorry.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:55 AM

View PostHighboy, on 01 January 2013 - 10:53 AM, said:

Holy **** mj it was a joke. Sorry.

:blush:    And there it went, right over my head!

Happy New year, HB.   :-)

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 11:00 AM

View Postmjkvol, on 01 January 2013 - 10:55 AM, said:

:blush: And there it went, right over my head!

Happy New year, HB.   :-)

You too.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 02:32 PM

View Postmjkvol, on 01 January 2013 - 09:49 AM, said:

I don't want Kelly, but I'm not in a position to say it couldn't work, I'd just prefer to stay away from someone with no NFL experience.

I initially had felt the same, but after reading this I've begun to strongly reconsider that stance. You might want to check it out & see if you don't end up with a different viewpoint.

http://igglesblitz.c...out-chip-kelly/

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:51 PM

Wow.      Very interesting.      I guess he should at least be explored - my concern is whether Lurie will want that strong a personality who might demand a lot of control before he ever proves anything.      Here are the parts that jumped out at me:

Kelly isn’t married to a specific offense or scheme. He does what works. Kelly certainly believes in himself and his ideas, but not blindly. If it isn’t working, he will make changes.

Don’t focus on surprising the other team. Out-execute them.

If he comes to the NFL, Kelly will adapt to the players he has.

He is a winner. He is innovative. He’s also smart enough to know that he doesn’t know everything.

If Kelly does succeed, he could be a great coach. He’s got the potential to be special. Why not take the chance on greatness? There will always be another hot coordinator next year or the year after. Kelly could be one of those rare coaches that will haunt you if you pass on him.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 05:41 PM

View PostCT Eagle, on 01 January 2013 - 07:58 AM, said:

McCoy or O'Brien would be the 2 coaches that would excite me the most.

Agree 100%

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 05:54 PM

View Postmjkvol, on 01 January 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

Wow.   Very interesting.   I guess he should at least be explored - my concern is whether Lurie will want that strong a personality who might demand a lot of control before he ever proves anything.   Here are the parts that jumped out at me:

Kelly isn’t married to a specific offense or scheme. He does what works. Kelly certainly believes in himself and his ideas, but not blindly. If it isn’t working, he will make changes.

Don’t focus on surprising the other team. Out-execute them.

If he comes to the NFL, Kelly will adapt to the players he has.

He is a winner. He is innovative. He’s also smart enough to know that he doesn’t know everything.

If Kelly does succeed, he could be a great coach. He’s got the potential to be special. Why not take the chance on greatness? There will always be another hot coordinator next year or the year after. Kelly could be one of those rare coaches that will haunt you if you pass on him.

That does give one pause. I have reservations about O'Brien because I'm smack in the middle of die hard PSU fan territory and if he leaves PSU after the season he had and the commitments he verbally made to stay there virtually everything I own that has an Eagle on it will be set on fire, with the exception of maybe my kids.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 06:20 PM

View PostHighboy, on 01 January 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:

That does give one pause. I have reservations about O'Brien because I'm smack in the middle of die hard PSU fan territory and if he leaves PSU after the season he had and the commitments he verbally made to stay there virtually everything I own that has an Eagle on it will be set on fire, with the exception of maybe my kids.

Nice to see priorities in order.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 06:43 PM

View Postmjkvol, on 01 January 2013 - 06:20 PM, said:

Nice to see priorities in order.

These clowns are more rabid about PSU and then they are about the Steelers.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 06:47 PM

McCoy, O'Brien, Kelly should be at the top of the priority list.

I think all have great football minds and SEEM to be great leaders

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 07:28 PM

View Postpatpikunas, on 01 January 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:

McCoy, O'Brien, Kelly should be at the top of the priority list.

I think all have great football minds and SEEM to be great leaders

Agreed, and in spite of the abuse I took I'd still be interested in Arians.




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