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[KOJO]

Someone in TATE posted a snippet of an article by Pat Kirwan & it got me wondering.

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http://www.cbssports...redhot-seahawks

The Philadelphia Eagles may be a game away from making a coaching change after 14 years of quality work by Andy Reid.

I think it's a big risk to take for a franchise that has a proven winner in Reid. So the Eagles have had a few poor seasons. But did you watch the game this weekend against the Redskins? There is a lot of promise on that roster right now as Reid and his staff develop a young group of new players.

Rookie QB Nick Foles threw for 345 yards. Run his numbers from his six games out for a whole season and he would be projected for 4,500 yards, 16 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. There's something to develop in Foles.

Also, Riley Cooper, Colt Anderson, Brandon Graham, Dennis Kelly, Fletcher Cox, Mychal Kendricks, Brandon Boykin and Bryce Brown are a very interesting group of young men who could be the core to rebuild this franchise.

It's going to be a shame if someone else gets the opportunity instead of Reid.

I can't even begin to describe the rage that boils within me reading that (as I know it does for certain others here). I wonder, though, if Jeffrey Lurie allows things like this to influence his decision making? Kirwan's a fairly respected guy around the league, & I guess you could extend this to some of the on-air hand wringing we've heard from guys like Steve Mariucci, Brian Billick, et al.

I would certainly hope that it wouldn't be a factor, but I wonder if he puts any stock in it or if it doesn't even register a blip on his radar.

[mjkvol]

I'll say it again - in 40+ years of watching sports, I've never seen anything remotely like this incredibly bizarre love affair the national media has with Reid.   There's nothing even close. You'd think we were dealing with a freaking diety.

The most disturbing part is how so much of the most passionate, rabid, knowledgeable fan base in the country has bought into the idiocy, and accepted the mediocrity of the last eight years as, to paraphrase the nitwit Kirwan, 'proven winning'.

Absolutely staggering, and at the same time, nauseating.

[KOJO]

mjkvol, on 26 December 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

I'll say it again - in 40+ years of watching sports, I've never seen anything remotely like this incredibly bizarre love affair the national media has with Reid.   There's nothing even close. You'd think we were dealing with a freaking diety.

The most disturbing part is how so much of the most passionate, rabid, knowledgeable fan base in the country has bought into the idiocy, and accepted the mediocrity of the last eight years as, to paraphrase the nitwit Kirwan, 'proven winning'.

Absolutely staggering, and at the same time, nauseating.

Total Twlight Zone stuff. Just the way we were all so wrong about McNabb.

[mjkvol]

KOJO, on 26 December 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Total Twlight Zone stuff. Just the way we were all so wrong about McNabb.

Yep.     Other fan bases are well within their right, and actually considered savvy and sophisticated, when they demand change after a few non-championship seasons.  

Us?       We are expected to accept being mediocre, and see it instead as 'consistent winning'.      We are expected to fear any coaching change as certain failure.      To think otherwise makes us spoiled, and only reinforces the already established fact that we are just stupid, and a terrible fan base.

Never seen anything remotely like it.

[Operator 7]

see my sig line  

[KOJO]

Operator 7, on 26 December 2012 - 11:52 PM, said:

see my sig line  

And I will look forward to reading a different one come next week.

[mjkvol]

Operator 7, on 26 December 2012 - 11:52 PM, said:

see my sig line  

Hey Op, those quotes are as moldy as 10 year old cheese, my friend.

And probably date back nearly that far!  

[eaglepride]

I just want reid to call a final press conference and say I guess I didn't do a better job and then shut the lights off, leave.

[patpikunas]

Have no fear my friends..... Pat Kirwan is an NFL insider always out to protect his NFL bretheren. If you read or listent to him regularly, you will understand that he will rarely if ever critique or criticize any NFL lifer. Its always fluff stuff or calling out a player or 2.

My firm belief is that Lurie will quietly schedule his PC late afternoon of New Yeards Eve, or New Years Day and put an end to this sideshow.

He will thank Reid and make excuses for him but explain that he feels this is the best move for the Company at the given time. It will be brief and it will offer little or no details so as to save Reid from any further embarassment.

Sadly however, you can bet that Howie will lead the new coaching search which is a huge gamble considering this is probably one of the most important decisions Lurie will ever have to make as the owner of this Org.

You can bet your last dollar that Howie is working Lurie behind the scenes with great fervor to try and gain his full confidence so that he will be able to take full control of the Football side of the operation.

As I have said since the bye week.... firing Reid and undoing this mess has been made easy by Reid!
But replacing him with a sufficient, competent Organizational structure and staff is the tricky part.... does any really believe Howie is ready for such a role?

[Operator 7]

mjkvol, on 27 December 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

Hey Op, those quotes are as moldy as 10 year old cheese, my friend.

And probably date back nearly that far!  

Lucky for you guys I'm here to record history!!!!

[DaveSpadaro]

Jeffrey has not commented on things, so I don't know where he stands. As he does each year, Jeffrey will speak after the season. Until then, I'm not going to speculate. We shall see in time.

[mjkvol]

patpikunas, on 27 December 2012 - 10:17 AM, said:

Have no fear my friends..... Pat Kirwan is an NFL insider always out to protect his NFL bretheren. If you read or listent to him regularly, you will understand that he will rarely if ever critique or criticize any NFL lifer. Its always fluff stuff or calling out a player or 2.


As I have said since the bye week.... firing Reid and undoing this mess has been made easy by Reid!
But replacing him with a sufficient, competent Organizational structure and staff is the tricky part.... does any really believe Howie is ready for such a role?

To the first point, why does anyone read these idiots, or put a shred of stock into anything they say, if they won't call a spade a spade? Just another reason I have complete disdain for any media.

Secondly, like I said to Pocono regarding the same issue, one battle at a time. Let's get Reid's a** out, and then deal with the FO.

Operator 7, on 27 December 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

Lucky for you guys I'm here to record history!!!!

Even if those quotes are partial quotes......?

Man, just like the liberal media!

[Operator 7]

mjkvol, on 27 December 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

Even if those quotes are partial quotes......?

Man, just like the liberal media!

If you can't beat em, join em!

But no, even though those may be "partial quotes", it doesn't change the sentiment.  Come on now, both you and Kojo really like Big Red, and if he comes back, you won't be THAT disappointed.  Come on now..

[mjkvol]

Seriously, I'd be done as far as watching games and paying attention on a daily basis as I have been, even if there's been no passion involved.

No 'switching teams' stupidity, but I'd stop watching Eagles games, and you wouldn't see me on here anymore,   Not worth it.

Hey, I probably just caused a bunch of true believers to pray for him to stay now!  

[Operator 7]

Yes, the other side would declare victory!

Hail to Big Red!!!!

Long live Andy Reid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

[mjkvol]

Operator 7, on 27 December 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

Hail to Big Red!!!!

Long live Andy Reid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

Well hell, he's pretty much treated like a deity now, so that sentiment wouldn't be stretching it from what we see and hear daily in the national media.

[KOJO]

eaglepride, on 27 December 2012 - 09:40 AM, said:

I just want reid to call a final press conference and say I guess I didn't do a better job and then shut the lights off, leave.

That would be fantastic.

[NWMontana]

Have you seen the look and body language of Lurie in his Box........ Says it all

[Rome]

What Reid did here during his first six years is unsurpassed.  The last eight have been as painful to watch as a Jennifer Aniston romantic comedy.

I don't care what the pundits say.  Reid has to go or Lurie is going to have a full-on fan mutiny on his hands.

[NJTroop]

Jeff Lurie would look like a complete fool if he went back on his word about being "significantly better" than they were last year. He understands politics and how he would look in the eyes of the league, media, and fans. The talking heads out there just like Andy Reid and their positivity will help him get hired as soon as he walks away from the Eagles final press conference.

[snoopdogg88]

Reid is gone


Lurie has to fire him at this point.    I'm as pessimistic as they come,  but this one is in the bag.

[Excel]

Those same people said the same thing about Rich Kotite.

[LacesOut]

snoopdogg88, on 27 December 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

Reid is gone

Lurie has to fire him at this point. I'm as pessimistic as they come,  but this one is in the bag.

You better be correct, sir!