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[Arthur Spooner]

Lets say we get 4th pick overall. We can get a rock solid stud, or maybe trade down to the 12-13th pick and get an extra 2nd rounder.

What would you do?

I think it might be a good idea to stock pile picks...

[bobbywizdum]

well to drop from four all the way to 12-13 ...we better get alot more than just a 2nd round pick. To jump up 8 slots early in the draft it would take swapping 1st's this year...next years first...the year after 1st...and a this year second. that's how much the skins paid just to jump from 6 to 2 let alone 13 to 4.

[biglou22]

Arthur Spooner, on 27 December 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

Lets say we get 4th pick overall. We can get a rock solid stud, or maybe trade down to the 12-13th pick and get an extra 2nd rounder.

What would you do?

I think it might be a good idea to stock pile picks...

1st - it doesn't matter whether you pick 1st or 10th. The amount of busts in the 1st rd is off the charts.
How about this stat. Since 2000 approx. 3 out of the top 10 picks would be considered busts.
And 3 out of the next 10 picks are busts and 3 out of PU is 21 - 32 are considered busts.
So for me it's a no brainer.
Trade the pick and get more picks.

[BtotheH]

Given the fact that were more likely to stock pile picks because of a new HC we may trade back. It also depends on what Burkholder has to say about Peters injury for 2013, because if the Eagles even doubt Peters ability to come back 100% then we need to draft Joeckel and find another way to get back into the second round.

You cannot put a price on a stud tackle for 10 years to come and Foles is going to need the protection on the blind side. But our defense is going to need some attention as well, especially the secondary. The good safeties will likely be gone by the mid second round and the good corners will be gone by the end of the first round.

I am not so sure how this draft will pan out, we will have a better feel after FA, but the only FA signings I see by us that effect our draft strategy will be picking up a safety and a lineman.

[Fansincebirth]

Depends on how far along Jason Peters is in his recover as well as Herremans. If both can start to practice 3-4 weeks after the SB than i would say that you can pick up a OT in the 2nd that would suffice and its better to stock pile late first rounders for the defense. If they aren't ready to start practicing until mid camp i say you bring in a first rounder early on like the Texas A&M kid.

[jimmygolin]

For once, we need to keep the pick. This draft is so weak that with our luck we will trade for 2 first round picks and miss on both. We are better off staying at 4 and taking a STUD. Maybe the OT from A&M or one of the top safeties. The one thing this draft does have is safeies.

[greenpassion]

im not real optimistic having to depend on 3/5 of our starting o-line coming back strong right off the bat. it normally takes guys 2 years to get back to 100% from knee injuries so i would hope that they look hard at both FA and high draft choices for the o-line. it might be time to start looking to replace herrimans anyway or atleast put him back at his traditional gaurd position putting him back at RT coming off injury and he wasnt playing real well there anyway is not the way to go imo

o-line and FS are the most pressing needs. i would have colt anderson starting at SS next season unless a FA or draft pick is clearly better

[flyerdog]

biglou22, on 27 December 2012 - 02:57 PM, said:

1st - it doesn't matter whether you pick 1st or 10th. The amount of busts in the 1st rd is off the charts.
How about this stat. Since 2000 approx. 3 out of the top 10 picks would be considered busts.
And 3 out of the next 10 picks are busts and 3 out of PU is 21 - 32 are considered busts.
So for me it's a no brainer.
Trade the pick and get more picks.

solid logic, but, those picks have to pan out...and latley we've seen how much success we've had in later rounds with this FO. I might actually be better to go for quality vs quantity, especially in this draft. Now if our 4th  can get us Larry Fitzgerald.....

[BtotheH]

jimmygolin, on 27 December 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

For once, we need to keep the pick. This draft is so weak that with our luck we will trade for 2 first round picks and miss on both. We are better off staying at 4 and taking a STUD. Maybe the OT from A&M or one of the top safeties. The one thing this draft does have is safeies.

No way were taking a safety at #4.

Besides the health of our lineman it comes down to where the cards fall before the draft. The combine will be useful to target a safety that sleeps maybe in the 2nd or 3rd round. Safety is going to be a top FA target, but I have a feeling we will also be adding another in the draft.

[eaglesw00t]

I take Luke Joeckel all day, and the best DB available in round 2.

maybe another OG in round 3-4, and go DB or WR in 4 and 5

[MR-CYN]

I'm really hoping they hire a carnival monkey to throw a dart at the draft board. They could air it live and people could bet on the pick like on bonzai! Pure awesome.

[EaglesKings]

If Joeckel is there, take him, maybe take Star but I am 99% sure he goes top 3. If not, trade down.

[rambo]

Just what the Eagles need...a stockpile of sheet.

[kristiandroc2004]

The only thing I hope for is that we never have another top 5 pick in my lifetime.

[MR-CYN]

rambo, on 27 December 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Just what the Eagles need...a stockpile of sheet.

If they traded the first pick for 10 6th rounders they could draft 10 Tom Bradys. Can you imagine 10 Tom Bradys with McCoy on the field all at once? Super Bowlzzzz!

[TSims]

My Ideal Situations:
1.) Keep the pick draft Joeckel, Lotulelei, Smith, pretty much BPA, also hope that Vaccaro or Elam is available in Round 2
2.) Trade back for Dion Jordan, Jonathon Banks, Dee Milliner, Matt Elam, also BPA

[rambo]

MR-CYN, on 27 December 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

If they traded the first pick for 10 6th rounders they could draft 10 Tom Bradys. Can you imagine 10 Tom Bradys with McCoy on the field all at once? Super Bowlzzzz!

Think of all the Giselle Bundchen's in the stands.

[bobbywizdum]

the other scenerio of coarse is trading up. to go from 4 to 2 wouldn't be that expensive if there was a player we absolutely loved.

[bdacoobyr]

I would love to trade for the Rams' two 1st round picks. Draft Sheldon Richardson and Matt Elam in the first. This is assuming the team is confident in our line getting healthy.

[odin8888]

I want the best O-lineman, and Safety, after that, grab the best available at each position... I dont trade down, unless I know my man will be available!

[TSims]

bdacoobyr, on 27 December 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:

I would love to trade for the Rams' two 1st round picks. Draft Sheldon Richardson and Matt Elam in the first. This is assuming the team is confident in our line getting healthy.

Our 1st with Maclin, sign Dwayne Bowe o__O

[WestPaEaglesNest]

BtotheH, on 27 December 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

Given the fact that were more likely to stock pile picks because of a new HC we may trade back. It also depends on what Burkholder has to say about Peters injury for 2013, because if the Eagles even doubt Peters ability to come back 100% then we need to draft Joeckel and find another way to get back into the second round.

You cannot put a price on a stud tackle for 10 years to come and Foles is going to need the protection on the blind side. But our defense is going to need some attention as well, especially the secondary. The good safeties will likely be gone by the mid second round and the good corners will be gone by the end of the first round.

I am not so sure how this draft will pan out, we will have a better feel after FA, but the only FA signings I see by us that effect our draft strategy will be picking up a safety and a lineman.

Hopefully Burkholder has nothing to say about the injury because we would have a new trainer.  As in a whole new team, everything.  I don't know about you, but it sure seems to me that we get piled up on the injuries a lot of the years.  More than other teams.

[WestPaEaglesNest]

bdacoobyr, on 27 December 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:

I would love to trade for the Rams' two 1st round picks. Draft Sheldon Richardson and Matt Elam in the first. This is assuming the team is confident in our line getting healthy.

This is the best case scenario.  Maybe The Rams would not be interested in paying out to 1st round contracts this year.  I would love for the Eagles do something along the lines of this with the Rams:

Rams get:
2012 1st  (#4)
2012 2nd (36) or 3rd (#67)
Maclin

Eagles Get:
2012 1st (#17)
2012 1st (#22)
2013 1st  NA

Unlikely, but it would allow us to move out of the 1st this year to stock up more 2nd round picks and then it would position us to strike in the 1st round next year for a QB, insurance in case Foles does not pan out.  Bottom line is we don't know what we have in Foles and we know that future QB is not in this draft.  Plus this will take a few years.

[WestPaEaglesNest]

odin8888, on 27 December 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

I want the best O-lineman, and Safety, after that, grab the best available at each position... I dont trade down, unless I know my man will be available!

Get Barret Jones late in the 1st or early in the 2nd (hopefully)  and then draft nothing but BPA on defense from there on out.  Trade out late picks (6th and 7th) for higher picks in 2014.  O-line is not as much as a need as some would think.  We need everything on defense.

[FanSinceWayBack]

Trade down for more picks. Never hurts to try to get picks for the NEXT year as well. Sometimes teams FO's have blurry future perceptions.

[Greg Garrity]

*flips coin*

Trade down

*consults magic 8-ball*

Keep the pick.

[Sack that QB]

Trading down would be incredibly stupid. Everyone says there is no difference between picking 1-10. They couldn't be more wrong. In the top 5, you will have a shot at either Luke Joeckel or Manti Te'o. Two of the best players in this draft. If they trade down, they aren't going to get either.

Either of those guys would be huge difference makers going forward. You have an OT that will be on your line for the next decade, or the next defensive leader/playmaker that we haven't had since Dawkins left in Te'o.

You aren't going to get an impact player of that caliber at 12-15. Everyone thought the Browns got this great deal for trading down with Atlanta for Julio Jones and killed Atlanta at the time. Guess who it is working out for now?

[SBorBust]

In case anyone was wondering:

TO ATL:

Julio Jones

TO CLE:

Phil Taylor
Greg Little
Owen Marecic
Branden Weeden
2012 4th round pick used as a piece to trade up one spot in Round 1 to get Trent Richardson.

They would have found a way to get Richardson without that pick.  So, for the sake of argument, let's say that the trade saved them their own 4th round pick that became James Michael-Johnson.

[SBorBust]

I think it all depends on how the board falls.

If Star and the OT are off the board, there is a team around 8 that is enamored with a quarterback and wants to trade up, and you have Te'o, Milliner and Player C ranked equally I'd say to trade down.  If you think that you can't live without Te'o, Millier, or Player C stay put.

[WingsOfEagles]

They should stay put and grab one of the studs already mentioned. I think the team has talent, they just lost their way with a coaching staff that wasn't getting through anymore combined with a lot of bad injuries.

We need quality and not quantity. If we can get a difference maker at either OT or DT we have to make that the move.